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May 25th 11, 10:43 PM
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Financial wealth, or JUST WHO SHOULD PAY FOR ALL OF THIS?
Gray Ghost wrote:
Dave LaRue wrote in news:4ddd70a9$0$9061 : John Smith wrote: On 5/25/2011 12:43 PM, RD Sandman wrote: John wrote in news:irh49m$id0$3@dont- email.me: On 5/24/2011 1:18 PM, wrote: ... You chose the easy point of my post to reply to. The point you ignored is that your suggested system - "Let me put this more bluntly. If I buy and item and pay 7% sales tax, the top one percent should buy an item and pay a 42.7% sales tax, that way they will be contributing their fair share to run government ..." - is either impossible to implement, or requires a dictatorship. ... Yes, that is a fair system, you simply want to take it literally and say it doesn't work. I am not stuck on any particular system to implement it with. Any system which can demonstrate that it can successfully accomplish the goal, and costing the least, would be great. THINK for a change, John. How would a system like that have to work? How would a merchant know whether to charge 7% sales tax or 42% sales tax or some amount in between? Any system only needs to manage that 1% of those with control of 42.7% of the financial money pay 42.7% of the sales taxes. And that 20% at the top pay 50.3% of the taxes. And just how do you think it knows which one you are? Or who is in those brackets? You are looking at Big Brother from 1984 big time. I simply gave a simplified version of what is to be accomplished. No, you showed that you really don't understand what is involved in that scheme. Those with any common sense would have realized it was over simplified ... REally, really oversimplified....so much so that you don't seem to have any grasp of the basics. I don't give a rats arse how you get the water from the well, just that the water comes from the well ... If you are whining about the costs and fairness of things, you really should care. In this case you are pushing the costs would completely overwhelm the result. I said everyone needs taxed at an equal rate on every dollar earned ... I said crooks will always attempt to avoid this. I have no real problem with a "luxury" tax, too. Cell Phones for instance? Noop Cell phones with camera's all the "apps?" Yup. Basic 19" TV's? Noop. Large screen LED/LCD things that cover an entire wall? Yup. Chevy's? Noop. They are already sorry for buying them. Cadillac's, BMW's, Mercedes' and the like? Yup. Do the words "equal protection" mean ANYTHING to you? Indeed I do understand. What's that got to do with a luxury tax? I fail to see anything in there about income levels determing anything. I wasn't talking about income levels. I was talking more about a "fair sales Luxury tax", that keeps, or rather helps keep in check, the "truly poor" from buying said items whilst they are on welfare and food stamps, like they do now as they fool the system. Most wealthy people could care less what they pay for anything. They already want and buy the biggest and baddest, and buy the first models and prototypes just because it's there! THEY bring the costs down when they finally go into major production! Cost means NOTHING to them! But poor slobs don't need, nor want them, until the items or tech becomes more afforable. Again, thank us, the rich that bring these items to the masses at a lower cost, to the poor! So again, don't tax our (the rich) incomes, tax SAID ITEMS that even the poor choose to buy, instead of the food they need. |
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