RD Sandman wrote in
:

There is a method in that Fair Tax for taking the regression out of it
just like there is in my flat income proposal. You need to read a little
further than just the first sentence.


FWIW at least the flat tax could be adminstratively simpl, still to much
personal information turned over to the fed, face it they will still
"have" to know what you made so they can tell if youlied on your postcard.

But the cluster**** involved in the VAT, adminstering it with the
exceptions and "prebates" for low earners is just another giant government
program waiting to spin out of control. And you'd still have to declare
income to know if you qualified for the "prebates". never mind the sliding
scale bull****.

If i had to choose I would go with the flat tax as being more honest and
open. With no real deductions the tax preparer leechs would have to get
productive work, the IRS could be reduced considerably and then we vould
really debate how much the government "needs" and why. Now everyone
scrambles for and whines about deductions, perfect for the politicians as
an evasion for the real question.

We're to busy arguing about HOW we're being bled then why.



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ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much
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Gray Ghost wrote in
. 97.142:

RD Sandman wrote in
:

There is a method in that Fair Tax for taking the regression out of
it just like there is in my flat income proposal. You need to read a
little further than just the first sentence.


FWIW at least the flat tax could be adminstratively simpl, still to
much personal information turned over to the fed, face it they will
still "have" to know what you made so they can tell if youlied on your
postcard.

They already know based on information sent in and added to your W2 or
your 1099.

But the cluster**** involved in the VAT, adminstering it with the
exceptions and "prebates" for low earners is just another giant
government program waiting to spin out of control.

Although that is the only deduction or exception to it. .....currently.
There is no tax program that Congress can't **** up over time.

And you'd still
have to declare income to know if you qualified for the "prebates".
never mind the sliding scale bull****.

No, it isn't based on income. It is based on number of adults, one or
two, in the home (think parents) and the number of dependents (think kids
or grandparents, etc..)

If i had to choose I would go with the flat tax as being more honest
and open.

As would I. None of it is hidden from view whereas with the Fair Tax,
you really have no way of knowing just what is in it.

With no real deductions the tax preparer leechs would have
to get productive work, the IRS could be reduced considerably

Field offices and all those folks could simply go away and find
meaningful work somewhere.

and then
we vould really debate how much the government "needs" and why. Now
everyone scrambles for and whines about deductions, perfect for the
politicians as an evasion for the real question.

Yep.

We're to busy arguing about HOW we're being bled then why.

Then that would be the next problem to work on.......over spending.


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Sleep well tonight....RD (The Sandman)

If you woke up this morning....
Don't complain.

On May 28, 11:40*am, Gray Ghost
wrote:
RD Sandman wrote :

There is a method in that Fair Tax for taking the regression out of it
just like there is in my flat income proposal. *You need to read a little
further than just the first sentence.

FWIW at least the flat tax could be adminstratively simpl, still to much
personal information turned over to the fed, face it they will still
"have" to know what you made so they can tell if youlied on your postcard..

But the cluster**** involved in the VAT, adminstering it with the
exceptions and "prebates" for low earners is just another giant government
program waiting to spin out of control. And you'd still have to declare
income to know if you qualified for the "prebates". never mind the sliding
scale bull****.

If i had to choose I would go with the flat tax as being more honest and
open. With no real deductions the tax preparer leechs would have to get
productive work, the IRS could be reduced considerably and then we vould
really debate how much the government "needs" and why. Now everyone
scrambles for and whines about deductions, perfect for the politicians as
an evasion for the real question.

We're to busy arguing about HOW we're being bled then why.

--
Herman Cain for President! * * * * * * *http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had as much
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much
competence?

On May 28, 11:40*am, Gray Ghost
wrote:
RD Sandman wrote :

There is a method in that Fair Tax for taking the regression out of it
just like there is in my flat income proposal. *You need to read a little
further than just the first sentence.


Let me try that again, this time with an actual reply. :-(

FWIW at least the flat tax could be adminstratively simpl, still to much
personal information turned over to the fed, face it they will still
"have" to know what you made so they can tell if youlied on your postcard..


They need that information anyway for Social Security benefit
calculations.

But the cluster**** involved in the VAT, adminstering it with the
exceptions and "prebates" for low earners is just another giant government
program waiting to spin out of control. And you'd still have to declare
income to know if you qualified for the "prebates". never mind the sliding
scale bull****.


I think the Fair Tax proposal that is in this debate bases its
"prebates" on family size.

If i had to choose I would go with the flat tax as being more honest and
open. With no real deductions the tax preparer leechs would have to get
productive work, the IRS could be reduced considerably and then we vould
really debate how much the government "needs" and why. Now everyone
scrambles for and whines about deductions, perfect for the politicians as
an evasion for the real question.


It would certainly simplify tax returns ... until Congress starts to
mess with it. Which it will.

We're to busy arguing about HOW we're being bled then why.


Nailed it!

--
Herman Cain for President! * * * * * * *http://hermancain.com/
If you don't support him you are a Racist!!
He beat Cancer. He'll beat Obama (who is just like cancer)

Remember Desert One, Carter 0? Ain't it sad to wish that Obama had as much
ambition but being glad he doesn't knowing he doesn't have THAT much
competence?