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george June 12th 11 09:02 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 12, 10:18*pm, HVAC wrote:
On 6/11/2011 9:25 AM, HVAC wrote:





A brief summary of the typical symptoms of PPD includes:


suspiciousness and distrust of others
questioning hidden motives in others
feelings of certainty, without justification or proof, that others are
intent on
harming or exploiting them
social isolation
aggressiveness and hostility
little or no sense of humor


Can it be treated with the proper medications?


Is Brad on any medications?


Would he admit it if he was?


Has anyone noticed that Brad vehemently denied cheating on
his taxes, yet said nary a word of denial his use of
psychotropic medication?

I'm just saying.......

It's taken as read that he is several sandwiches short of a cut lunch
so psychotropic medication is a given

george June 12th 11 09:07 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 13, 6:05*am, HVAC wrote:

You kooks are a hoot!

Who the **** knows or even CARES what religion
their clients/customers are? *Only a kook does.

Or a racist.


On the Net anything can claim to be any-one...
Brad is as much a businessman as his clams of perpetual motion are
valid

Brad Guth June 12th 11 09:34 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 12, 1:07*pm, george wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:05*am, HVAC wrote:

You kooks are a hoot!


Who the **** knows or even CARES what religion
their clients/customers are? *Only a kook does.


Or a racist.


On the Net anything can claim to be any-one...
Brad is as much a businessman as his clams of perpetual motion are
valid


You're the ones that claim there's never any such thing as a bad or
dysfunctional Semite, whereas I'm just adding real world facts that
kinda proves otherwise.

Are you suggesting that our government agencies such as its SEC and
maters related to the regulation of banking, insurance, investment/
mortgage industry, medical cartel/cabals plus their partners in the
Federal Reserve were all being run by greedy Muslims?

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Bob Casanova June 12th 11 11:13 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 13:08:10 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by HVAC :

On 6/11/2011 1:00 PM, Bob Casanova wrote:


Why should 99.9% of us have to pay for whatever the 0.1% get to do and
get in trouble while doing it?


Like what?



Obviously you never give an honest tinker damn about others outside of
your upper most 0.1%, as having any spare cash or time for fun.


Hey.... Strippers got to make a living too!


I think it's fascinating that he imagines that everyone who
disagrees with him is in the upper 0.1% (presumably of
income). Boy, did *he* get a wrong number...




Ya... I work for a living.


I did until I retired. And I never came even close to the
upper 0.1% of income. I never even approached the median.
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova June 12th 11 11:17 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:37:17 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova :

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 14:52:17 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:

On Jun 10, 12:25*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:









On Jun 10, 10:36*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:55 AM, John Smith wrote:
Funny that I've never read that before.
You wouldn't mind give me a cite, would you?
“That deep emotional conviction of the presence of a superior reasoning
power, which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea
of God.” -- Albert Einstein
John... Do you know what a cite is?
I just cited to you, a quote from Einstein, on the matter you inquired
about, you have google before you, do you understand how to use a search
engine?
Instead of the histrionics, just say that you *don't* know
what a cite is and move on......
Your whole live is a pathetic derivative of social/political/religious
voodoo and cabal policies, doing only whatever you've been
indoctrinated to do and say. *In other words, you and your remorseless
killing machine kids *would have been ideal for Hitler or any other
warlord that happen to be in charge. *In a few other words, you and
your robot borg like kids go along with the mainstream flow of the
moment, no matters what the consequences, doing only exactly as you
were either instructed and/or allowed to do because you either can't
or wouldn't dare think or rationalize anything through for yourself.

This must be the primary reason there's a record percentage level of
military family dysfunctions and suicides. *Way to go, HVAC. *Perhaps
GW Bush and Dick Cheney should have given you and your deaf, dumb and
blind "follow the leader" kids the highest medal of honor, starting
off with your butt-sucking generation getting JFK killed.

Wrong newsgroup; alt.rants.free-association.non-sequiturs is
over that way...


So your being a ZNR is good for business?


What "business" is that? And what's a "ZNR"?


[Crickets...]

Oh, and you need to look up "non sequitur".

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova June 12th 11 11:18 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:43:43 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova :

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 21:06:11 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:

On Jun 10, 5:39*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:24:05 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:
On Jun 10, 4:18*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 07:05:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:
On Jun 9, 8:17*pm, Government Shill #2 wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:55:54 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth wrote:

Most here are pretend-Atheists that only act/react exactly like Semites that
never actually believed in any wrath of God anyway?

I wish I could work out what this is meant to say!

Shill #2
--
"Me fail English? That's unpossible!"
Ralph Wiggum

Pretenders that never police their own kind make good FUD-masters.

????????

What the...?

Please... write... in... English.

Englische bitte. Engelse asseblief. Ingles mangyaring. Anglais s'il vous plaît.
Bahasa Inggris silahkan. Inglese per favore. Engelska vänligen.

Are you a Muslim or in favor of some religion other than Semite/
Jewish?

I believe Muslims and Jews are just as deluded as the Christians. There is no
sky pixie. To Believe in any particular one is nuts.

Don't bother to give us that usual crap that you go along with
whatever any religion or faith-based cabal has to say.

You mean the truth?

No. It's obvious that you and truth parted company years ago.

Tell us where does your income and/or benefits come from?

My real income, or my shill one you fantasise about?

My real income comes from an aeronautical engineering company. We fix planes.

That's the truth, so you may now ignore it.

Since you never think for yourself; *who are your peers?

My peers, Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG / “Guth Usenet”, are
sane people.

That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha!

"That's FUD-master required of each and every ZNR redneck."

Bwahahahahahahahahaa!

What the **** is that *supposed* to mean?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Shill #2
--
The men who really believe in themselves are all in lunatic asylums.
* - G. K. Chesterton


I means a whole lot more than your reply. Don't tell me that you
don't know what FUD stands for.


I certainly don't. Nor "ZNR". Nor your use of the term
"redneck", which doesn't seem to agree with normal usage.


[Crickets...]

Hint: Words and acronyms you make up aren't automatically
part of the general lexicon.

--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova June 12th 11 11:19 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:44:53 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova :

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:56:13 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:

On Jun 10, 9:09*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

...
You are way off topic. *When do you plan on fixing that?

Off topic?

Man, that vile creature is off planet and outta' its' gourd!

Don't even distract it from things of real concern!

ROFLOL!


Then tell us why the history as told by William Mook is wrong.


Who's William Mook? And why should anyone care?


[Crickets...]
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Bob Casanova June 12th 11 11:20 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:57:05 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova :

On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:15:49 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:

On Jun 11, 3:55*am, HVAC wrote:
On 6/11/2011 6:46 AM, Brad Guth wrote:



So, Mr. all-knowing wise guy spook/mole, tell us why the version of
history that involves JFK, as interpreted and told by William Mook is
wrong.

Who the **** is William Gook?

Real funny, but then aren't all FUD-masters.

I'll tell you what's REALLY funny. Kooks like you *never* have
a sense of humor and seemingly take zero pleasure in life.

Why is that, Bradley?

In the words of the Joker....Why so serious?

--
"OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo


In other words, William Mook's interpretation of what got JFK and RFK
each killed isn't in dispute.


Since no one knows what that "interpretation" consists of,
or what it's based on, how can we know? Knowing you from
your posts, however, I'd venture that it's not in dispute
because it's imaginary.

Here's a suggestion, Sparky: If you'd like to see how *real*
forensic analysis is done, pick up and read the book "Mortal
Error" by Bonar Menninger, ISBN 0-312-08074-3. He makes a
strong argument, based on actual physical evidence,
regarding how JFK died.


Have you checked this out yet, Sparky?

It's good to know what skulduggery side a devout ZNR redneck like
yourself is on.


What's a "ZNR"? And just to satisfy my curiosity, what's
your personal definition of "redneck"?


[Crickets...]
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless

Brad Guth June 12th 11 11:28 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
On Jun 12, 3:19*pm, Bob Casanova wrote:
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 09:44:53 -0700, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Bob Casanova :









On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 02:56:13 -0700 (PDT), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Brad Guth
:


On Jun 10, 9:09*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/10/2011 9:04 PM, Brad Guth wrote:


...
You are way off topic. *When do you plan on fixing that?


Off topic?


Man, that vile creature is off planet and outta' its' gourd!


Don't even distract it from things of real concern!


ROFLOL!


Then tell us why the history as told by William Mook is wrong.


Who's William Mook? And why should anyone care?


[Crickets...]
--

Bob C.

"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * - McNameless


So, FUD-masters and ZNR/GOP rednecks are not allowed to speak of
anything investigative by William Mook. Message received loud and
clear.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/
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John Ritson June 12th 11 11:40 PM

JFK Admits in secret OVal Office Recording...Moon landing was FAKE
 
In message
,
Brad Guth writes
On Jun 12, 10:47Â*am, John Ritson wrote:
In message
, Brad
Guth writes









On Jun 12, 3:38Â*am, John Ritson wrote:
In message
, Brad
Guth writes


On Jun 11, 5:53Â*pm, John Vreeland wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 15:49:06 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth


wrote:
On Jun 2, 2:53Â*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 6/2/2011 10:17 AM, Warhol wrote:


...
our ancient TV Tubes work with a bended electrical arc Beam in
vacuum...
...


You are going to have to look to Einstein to even get a
"sense" and a
"feel" about the slippery stuff, ether.


It is not like any matter we know, it is completely alien to
Â*We do
not possess senses to detect it, and there are no instruments, yet,
which will.


One very un-intuitive quality of ether? Â*It passes through
vacuum
tubes like the glass envelopes don't even exist, and all
parts of
the tube, for that matter ... but then, I doubt you have a
which
can even begin to fathom speculation on ether -- so you are
pretty much
stuck where you are!


Regards,
JS


If something/anything is moving FTL, such as gravity, then we can't
possibly detect it even though it is still there. Â*Perhaps the matrix
or flow of ether is simply FTL.


Gravity is not FTL. Â*It moves at the speed of light. Â*This is why we
can speak of gravity waves. Â*If you could observe two black holes
orbiting close to one another from within the plane of their orbit you
would feel the gravitational field change as each one flew by you.
That changing field radiates outward in a spiral shape aligned with
the plane of their orbit.


If the ether exists it is undetectable. Â*If it exists it must be
relativistic so that you cannot measure your movement through it.
--
My years on the mudpit that is Usnenet have taught me one important
thing: three Creation Scientists can have a serious conversation, if
two of them are sock puppets.


When was this speed of gravity objectively verified as c?


September 8, 2002
Kopeikin measured it as c times 1.06 (but with an error range of plus or
minus 0.21) by observing the gravitational lensing effect of Jupiter.


--
John Ritson


Thanks, I'll look into that, because it seems mainstream physics and
whatever science hasn't picked up on this force velocity or
propagation of gravity as being any done deal.


"Several physicists, including Clifford M. Will and Steve Carlip, have
criticized these claims on the grounds that they have allegedly
misinterpreted the results of their measurements. Notably, prior to
the actual transit, Hideki Asada in a paper to the Astrophysical
Journal Letters theorized that the proposed experiment was essentially
a roundabout confirmation of the speed of light instead of the speed
of gravity."


I suppose that more than a few others of sufficient expertise have
interpreted this gravity force velocity in ways that haven't been
accepted or otherwise peer replicated.


How could the speed of light even exist unless gravity wasn't worth at
least twice as fast?


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There is also the fact that sending probes into the outer solar system,
repeatedly slingshotting around planets involves precise calculations
which take into account the speed of gravity equalling c. If the speed
were to be significantly different, the probes would not end up where
they were supposed to be.

--
John Ritson


You are confusing the force of gravity with the velocity of gravity.

That’s like confusing the brightness or intensity of a given light
bulb with the speed of light that’s always a variable because the in
between medium is always a variable and/or distorted by the quicker
velocity and/or propagation of gravity.

If a constant magnet force is moving away a 0.1%c; is its force at
any given distance going to be stronger or weaker than a stationary
magnet? (same question applies to gravity)

This science of physics proof pertaining to the velocity of a given
force such as gravity should be accomplished within a physics lab, and
thereby easily peer replicated.

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The speed of gravity is the speed at which gravitational force
propagates.
Is an object pulled in the direction where a mass is currently seen to
be (in which case the 'speed of gravity' is the speed of light) or is it
pulled in the direction where it currently 'is' (in which case the
'speed of gravity' is infinite)?
The observed answer to the above question is that the speed of gravity
is c.

If objects are travelling at speeds at which relativistic effects become
significant, then the effective mass changes and thus the gravitational
effects change, but this has nothing to do with the 'speed of gravity'.

--
John Ritson


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