On 7/2/2011 12:15 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:


With whom? Each other? If they come out of their confusion, they'll realize
that their gold is nearly useless, and of value only in certain very limited
industries.

If you're holding gold, you'd better hope they stay confused and a little
neurotic, or you're screwed. d8-)


Look, you are some type of damn fool.

If you don't think the rich have a good percentage of solid assets, you
are a complete moron ... which, you have already convinced me, you are!

It is the idiots like you who will be collecting welfare and food stamps
.... however, I think you most likely are now! You talk like a damn fool
who will soon be parted from their money ... if they had any ...

Regards,
JS

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 7/2/2011 12:15 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:


With whom? Each other? If they come out of their confusion, they'll
realize
that their gold is nearly useless, and of value only in certain very
limited
industries.

If you're holding gold, you'd better hope they stay confused and a little
neurotic, or you're screwed. d8-)


Look, you are some type of damn fool.

Which type do you think?


If you don't think the rich have a good percentage of solid assets, you
are a complete moron ... which, you have already convinced me, you are!

I'm trying awfully hard to be polite to you, John, but you're making it
tough. I think that John is trying pretty hard, too.


It is the idiots like you who will be collecting welfare and food stamps
... however, I think you most likely are now! You talk like a damn fool
who will soon be parted from their money ... if they had any ...

Regards,
JS

Ok, that does it. John, you're a clueless rube with a head full of mush, who
talks through his hat. You probably couldn't look up a fact if your life
depended on it.

It's people like you, and the Tea Party ignoramuses, who are threatening to
run the country into the gutter. You never bothered to learn ANY of the
things you're talking about, yet you're ready to call the people who have
spent a lifetime with it "dumb."

Here's a clue, rube: You don't know what money is. You don't know why gold
is no longer a practical basis for currency. You don't even know what our
GDP is, or what the trend is, or what percentage of adults actually have
jobs. It's high.

You think that our currency is going to collapse, but you wouldn't have the
vaguest idea about why that has never happened, even in worse circumstances,
and why it won't happen now.

You're hopeless. I was trying to pass along a few facts that you might find
surprising and interesting, and incorporate them into your thinking. But
you're immune to facts, just like the Tea Baggers, and you substitute
insults for taking the time to learn something. So you aren't worth the
time.

Go buy gold, rant and rave, and try to keep your blood pressure under
control. You're not ready for this discussion. It's 'way over your head.

--
Ed Huntress

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
On 7/2/2011 5:06 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On 7/2/2011 12:15 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:


With whom? Each other? If they come out of their confusion, they'll
realize
that their gold is nearly useless, and of value only in certain very
limited
industries.

If you're holding gold, you'd better hope they stay confused and a
little
neurotic, or you're screwed. d8-)


Look, you are some type of damn fool.

Which type do you think?


If you don't think the rich have a good percentage of solid assets, you
are a complete moron ... which, you have already convinced me, you are!

I'm trying awfully hard to be polite to you, John, but you're making it
tough. I think that John is trying pretty hard, too.


It is the idiots like you who will be collecting welfare and food stamps
... however, I think you most likely are now! You talk like a damn fool
who will soon be parted from their money ... if they had any ...

Regards,
JS

Ok, that does it. John, you're a clueless rube with a head full of mush,
who
talks through his hat. You probably couldn't look up a fact if your life
depended on it.

It's people like you, and the Tea Party ignoramuses, who are threatening
to
run the country into the gutter. You never bothered to learn ANY of the
things you're talking about, yet you're ready to call the people who have
spent a lifetime with it "dumb."

Here's a clue, rube: You don't know what money is. You don't know why
gold
is no longer a practical basis for currency. You don't even know what our
GDP is, or what the trend is, or what percentage of adults actually have
jobs. It's high.

You think that our currency is going to collapse, but you wouldn't have
the
vaguest idea about why that has never happened, even in worse
circumstances,
and why it won't happen now.

You're hopeless. I was trying to pass along a few facts that you might
find
surprising and interesting, and incorporate them into your thinking. But
you're immune to facts, just like the Tea Baggers, and you substitute
insults for taking the time to learn something. So you aren't worth the
time.

Go buy gold, rant and rave, and try to keep your blood pressure under
control. You're not ready for this discussion. It's 'way over your head.


Show me a valid financial consultant who doesn't recommend you hold, at a
minimum, 25% of your assets in gold, they simply don't exist.

Everyone in this discussion has said you should spend what you want to on
gold, as an individual. What's nutz is to tie gold to our currency.


Mine said, "Put what you can't afford to lose in gold." I put it all,
except what I need for running my operations for the next 3 years or so
... and, with my present income, that is probably more like 6 to 10, even
with increasing inflation, if inflation goes thought the roof, it all goes
up for grabs. If the chinese can free themselves from our manipulations
over their needed oil, it could begin to happen that minute!

I am not saying that kind of commitment to gold is for everyone, but the
25% certainly IS!

Fine, buy all you want. Just leave the rest of us out of it.

--
Ed Huntress

On 7/2/2011 10:07 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On 7/2/2011 5:06 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On 7/2/2011 12:15 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:


With whom? Each other? If they come out of their confusion, they'll
realize
that their gold is nearly useless, and of value only in certain very
limited
industries.

If you're holding gold, you'd better hope they stay confused and a
little
neurotic, or you're screwed. d8-)


Look, you are some type of damn fool.

Which type do you think?


If you don't think the rich have a good percentage of solid assets, you
are a complete moron ... which, you have already convinced me, you are!

I'm trying awfully hard to be polite to you, John, but you're making it
tough. I think that John is trying pretty hard, too.


It is the idiots like you who will be collecting welfare and food stamps
... however, I think you most likely are now! You talk like a damn fool
who will soon be parted from their money ... if they had any ...

Regards,
JS

Ok, that does it. John, you're a clueless rube with a head full of mush,
who
talks through his hat. You probably couldn't look up a fact if your life
depended on it.

It's people like you, and the Tea Party ignoramuses, who are threatening
to
run the country into the gutter. You never bothered to learn ANY of the
things you're talking about, yet you're ready to call the people who have
spent a lifetime with it "dumb."

Here's a clue, rube: You don't know what money is. You don't know why
gold
is no longer a practical basis for currency. You don't even know what our
GDP is, or what the trend is, or what percentage of adults actually have
jobs. It's high.

You think that our currency is going to collapse, but you wouldn't have
the
vaguest idea about why that has never happened, even in worse
circumstances,
and why it won't happen now.

You're hopeless. I was trying to pass along a few facts that you might
find
surprising and interesting, and incorporate them into your thinking. But
you're immune to facts, just like the Tea Baggers, and you substitute
insults for taking the time to learn something. So you aren't worth the
time.

Go buy gold, rant and rave, and try to keep your blood pressure under
control. You're not ready for this discussion. It's 'way over your head.


Show me a valid financial consultant who doesn't recommend you hold, at a
minimum, 25% of your assets in gold, they simply don't exist.

Everyone in this discussion has said you should spend what you want to on
gold, as an individual. What's nutz is to tie gold to our currency.


Mine said, "Put what you can't afford to lose in gold." I put it all,
except what I need for running my operations for the next 3 years or so
... and, with my present income, that is probably more like 6 to 10, even
with increasing inflation, if inflation goes thought the roof, it all goes
up for grabs. If the chinese can free themselves from our manipulations
over their needed oil, it could begin to happen that minute!

I am not saying that kind of commitment to gold is for everyone, but the
25% certainly IS!

Fine, buy all you want. Just leave the rest of us out of it.


Apparently you didn't read this, yet:

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials...rom082307.html

That and a month of thought, and the epiphany which must happen to you,
will make everything clear ... or not.

Regards,
JS

On Jul 2, 11:31*pm, John Smith wrote:
On 7/2/2011 5:06 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:





"John *wrote in message
...
On 7/2/2011 12:15 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:

With whom? Each other? If they come out of their confusion, they'll
realize
that theirgoldis nearly useless, and of value only in certain very
limited
industries.

If you're holdinggold, you'd better hope they stay confused and a little
neurotic, or you're screwed. d8-)

Look, you are some type of damn fool.

Which type do you think?

If you don't think the rich have a good percentage of solid assets, you
are a complete moron ... which, you have already convinced me, you are!

I'm trying awfully hard to be polite to you, John, but you're making it
tough. I think that John is trying pretty hard, too.

It is the idiots like you who will be collecting welfare and food stamps
... however, I think you most likely are now! *You talk like a damn fool
who will soon be parted from their money ... if they had any ...

Regards,
JS

Ok, that does it. John, you're a clueless rube with a head full of mush, who
talks through his hat. You probably couldn't look up a fact if your life
depended on it.

It's people like you, and the Tea Party ignoramuses, who are threatening to
run the country into the gutter. You never bothered to learn ANY of the
things you're talking about, yet you're ready to call the people who have
spent a lifetime with it "dumb."

Here's a clue, rube: You don't know what money is. You don't know whygold
is no longer a practical basis for currency. You don't even know what our
GDP is, or what the trend is, or what percentage of adults actually have
jobs. It's high.

You think that our currency is going to collapse, but you wouldn't have the
vaguest idea about why that has never happened, even in worse circumstances,
and why it won't happen now.

You're hopeless. I was trying to pass along a few facts that you might find
surprising and interesting, and incorporate them into your thinking. But
you're immune to facts, just like the Tea Baggers, and you substitute
insults for taking the time to learn something. So you aren't worth the
time.

Go buygold, rant and rave, and try to keep your blood pressure under
control. You're not ready for this discussion. It's 'way over your head..

Show me a valid financial consultant who doesn't recommend you hold, at
a minimum, 25% of your assets ingold, they simply don't exist.

Mine said, "Put what you can't afford to lose ingold." *I put it all,
except what I need for running my operations for the next 3 years or so
... and, with my present income, that is probably more like 6 to 10,
even with increasing inflation, if inflation goes thought the roof, it
all goes up for grabs. *If the chinese can free themselves from our
manipulations over their needed oil, it could begin to happen that minute!

I am not saying that kind of commitment togoldis for everyone, but the
25% certainly IS!

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmmm....I wonder how much gold they will suck up?

Maybe we will see the price of gold collapse...and Johnny will be
selling apples on the street.


TMT


http://www.m.yahoo.com/w/ynews/artic...=u s&.lang=en

Huge rare earth deposits found in Pacific: Japan experts
Reuters - Sun Jul 3rd, 2011 11:46 PM EDT


TOKYO (Reuters) - Vast deposits of rare earth minerals, crucial in
making high-tech electronics products, have been found on the floor of
the Pacific Ocean and can be readily extracted, Japanese scientists
said on Monday.



"The deposits have a heavy concentration of rare earths. Just one
square kilometer (0.4 square mile) of deposits will be able to provide
one-fifth of the current global annual consumption," said Yasuhiro
Kato, an associate professor of earth science at the University of
Tokyo.

The discovery was made by a team led by Kato and including researchers
from the Japan Agency for Marine-Earth Science and Technology.

They found the minerals in sea mud extracted from depths of 3,500 to
6,000 meters (11,500-20,000 ft) below the ocean surface at 78
locations. One-third of the sites yielded rich contents of rare earths
and the metal yttrium, Kato said in a telephone interview.

The deposits are in international waters in an area stretching east
and west of Hawaii, as well as east of Tahiti in French Polynesia, he
said.

He estimated rare earths contained in the deposits amounted to 80 to
100 billion metric tons, compared to global reserves currently
confirmed by the U.S. Geological Survey of just 110 million tonnes
that have been found mainly in China, Russia and other former Soviet
countries, and the United States.

Details of the discovery were published on Monday in the online
version of British journal Nature Geoscience.

The level of uranium and thorium -- radioactive ingredients that are
usually contained in such deposits that can pose environmental hazards
-- was found to be one-fifth of those in deposits on land, Kato said.

A chronic shortage of rare earths, vital for making a range of high-
technology electronics, magnets and batteries, has encouraged mining
projects for them in recent years.

China, which accounts for 97 percent of global rare earth supplies,
has been tightening trade in the strategic metals, sparking an
explosion in prices.

Japan, which accounts for a third of global demand, has been stung
badly, and has been looking to diversify its supply sources,
particularly of heavy rare earths such as dysprosium used in magnets.

Kato said the sea mud was especially rich in heavier rare earths such
as gadolinium, lutetium, terbium and dysprosium.

"These are used to manufacture flat-screen TVs, LED (light-emitting
diode) valves, and hybrid cars," he said.

Extracting the deposits requires pumping up material from the ocean
floor. "Sea mud can be brought up to ships and we can extract rare
earths right there using simple acid leaching," he said.

"Using diluted acid, the process is fast, and within a few hours we
can extract 80-90 percent of rare earths from the mud."

The team found that sites close to Hawaii and Tahiti were especially
rich in rare earths, he said.

He gave no estimate of when extraction of the materials from the
seabed might start.

(Reporting by El Tan in Hong Kong and Yuko Inoue in Tokyo; Editing by
Michael Watson)

On 03 Jul 2011, Too_Many_Tools posted some
:

On Jul 2, 11:31*pm, John Smith wrote:


I am not saying that kind of commitment togoldis for everyone, but
the 25% certainly IS!

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmmm....I wonder how much gold they will suck up?

Maybe we will see the price of gold collapse...and Johnny will be
selling apples on the street.


TMT


Get ****ed.

An Illegitimate Child, An Illegitimate President: Despite Multiple
Attempts, "No Comment" from the White House

Talk about your proverbial can of worms. Clearly, Barack Hussein Obama's
Immigration file was the impetus for President Obama to release his "long
form" last week. If he thought that would put the matter to rest, it has
had the opposite effect. It has all raised more questions than it
answered, as does the release of shocking revelations in BHO I's
immigration file.

Clearly, BHO I was never divorced from his first wife in Kenya. Further,
INS suspected the BHO I/Stanley Ann Dunham marriage was a sham, arranged
strictly to secure immigration status for him. But if Barack Senior was a
Muslim polygamist, his "marriage" to Stanley Ann Dunham was invalid. Obama
Senior was a Kenyan citizen. Kenya was still under English law at this
time.

Illegitimate children had different rights -- at least they certainly did
in 1789. There is no way that the founders of this great nation intended
for an illegitimate child of a foreign bigamist to attain the highest,
most powerful position in the new land.

Further, when BHO I returned to Kenya, he apparently lived with his Kenyan
first wife and his American third wife, suggesting that the Dunham
"divorce" was a transitory ruse.

In 1964, Ann Dunham filed for divorce. By then, Barack had taken up with
Ruth Nidesand, a teacher of Lithuanian-Jewish ancestry who became his
third wife. A year later, he gave up his doctoral studies and returned
home.
[...]
In the last decade of his life, Barack Obama Sr. slid slowly into the
abyss. He was fired from a series of jobs. He had, as Firstbrook puts it,
“a reputation for having a massive ego and a big mouth, both of which grew
alarmingly when he started drinking.” He was also, according to Ruth’s son
Mark, abusive to his wife and children, and Ruth eventually left him,
taking her sons with him. (NY Review of Books)

President Hussein Obama is not natural born. His father was not a US
citizen; he is, by that very fact, disqualified to serve as US President.
For those who believe that "natural born" is no longer relevant, you are
wrong. Armaros points out in the comments, "The reason the founders have
created this requirement was to prevent a British person from assuming US
citizenship with the purpose of ascending to higher office and compromise
the USA. To prevent a sort of sleeper spy/traitor from getting power in
the new nation." Clearly, from Obama's performance, that is a very clear
and present danger.

Multiple attempts to get comment from the White House press office have
not been returned (here).

An INS investigator, M.F. McKeon, wrote on June 8, 1964: “They (Harvard
officials) weren’t very impressed with him and asked us to hold up action
on his application until they decided what action they could take in order
to get rid of him. They were apparently having difficulty with his
financial arrangements and couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he
had.” (more here)

For years, the media and the left have excoriated anyone who questioned
the circumstances and events surrounding the birth of the President of the
United States. The lack of transparency and honesty only gave rise to more
suspicion. And rightly so. One doesn't hand over the reins of power to
just anyone, particularly those with an unknown or sketchy past. The
dearth of documentation and paperwork led to more speculation. The
American people were like Helen Keller and the Obama machine kept moving
the furniture. Who is this man, and what is he hiding?

The birth certificate issue became the rallying cry for those of us who
questioned the legitimacy of Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility for the
oval office. Our media did not vet BHO. In fact, they took it upon
themselves to destroy and smear those who did, or tried to.

The release of Barack Hussein Obama I's immigration file is stunning in
what it reveals and the questions it poses. BHO I's visa expired August 8,
1961 -- it that why they married? A white girl in a family way with a
mixed race child desperate for legitimacy in a culture that condemned such
behavior as abject immorality, and a con man from Kenya desperate to stay
in the USA? Was the marriage merely a business arrangement (she was 17
when she was knocked up)? She could not have been so savvy as to know that
BHO I was a Muslim polygamist. Is that why it was so important to place
the ads in the advertisers -- because he was about to be deported?

It is interesting to note that BHO I claims in the documents to have
divorced first wife Kezia "verbally." According to the sharia, a man can
divorce his wife by repeating it three times.

Despite the fact that BHO I had married Dunham, the government wasn't
buying it:

A memo from Lyle H. Dahlim of the INS, written in April, 1961, says the
agency “recommend(s) that Subject be closely questioned before another
extension is granted – and denial be considered. If his USC (United States
Citizen) wife tries to petition for him make sure an investigation is
conducted as to the bona-fide of the marriage.”

The child sealed it -- but who was the father? And it bears mentioning
that BHO I did not marry a different high school minor whom he
impregnated, according to these documents; most probably she went to
London for an abortion. But he married Stanley -- why? Immigration status.

The Boston Globe got the immigration file in 2009; why did they sit on it?
And who is Heather Smathers (the journalist who requested the FOIA)?
(Here)

Documents also show that Obama, Sr. entered the country in 1959, and
received several extensions to his visa prior to being denied in July,
1964.
A memo from Lyle H. Dahlim of the INS, written in April, 1961, says the
agency “recommend(s) that Subject be closely questioned before another
extension is granted – and denial be considered. If his USC (United States
Citizen) wife tries to petition for him make sure an investigation is
conducted as to the bona-fide of the marriage.”
The wife is Stanley Ann Dunham, the President’s mother, who married Obama,
Sr., in February, 1961.
The documents also show that the CIS investigated the elder Obama as a
polygamist, having a wife in Kenya and a “wife and child in Honolulu.”
Dahlim’s memo adds that “Polygamy is not an excludable or deportation
charge as Subject is a non-immigrant.”
Documents show that Obama, Sr. was denied an extension on his student visa
in July, 1964, in part because Harvard University, where Obama, Sr., was a
Ph.D. candidate, sought his removal. Obama Sr. eventually left the United
States willingly after becoming an illegal alien for remaining in the
country past the expiration of his visa.
An INS investigator, M.F. McKeon, wrote “They (Harvard officials) weren’t
very impressed with him and asked us to hold up action on his application
until they decided what action they could take in order to get rid of him.
They were apparently having difficulty with his financial arrangements and
couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he had.”
Documents show that Harvard officials considered Obama, Sr. to be a
“slippery character,” and conspired with the INS to have him deported.
Inquiries with the White House were not immediately returned.
The revelation of the handwritten memo mentioning the President’s birth
comes as lawmakers across the country grapple with so-called “birther”
bills, with Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoing proposed legislation requiring
all candidates for any office to produce a birth certificate prior to
their name appearing on the ballot. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, however,
has said he will sign a similar bill.

If he was born August 4, 1961 in a first pregnancy, it is likely that
conception occurred 40 weeks previously or so. I make this to be in early
November, and wonder how old Stanley Ann Dunham was then, where she was
living, with whom, and what level student she may have been.

Obama implied that his father and mother’s wedding may not have been
properly documented. "How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit
murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to
explore. There's no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving
away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it's not even clear
that people back in Kansas were informed." Obama writes that in his
memoir.

And this, Michelle Obama says that Senior and Anna were never married.
She described Anna as "very young and very single when she had him
(Obama)." (2nd source)

And this -- There is no evidence whatsoever that Senior and Anna ever
lived together anywhere, any time. The living arrangements between the
announcement of the wedding and the birth of the child were uncertain.
Most likely, Senior remained in his dorm room while Ann lived with her
parents. Letters written by acquaintances of Senior during the period
1960-1961 with accompanying photographs do not mention or show Anna at
all.

Another interesting note -- BHO I's multiple misrepresentations of his
birth year. He mixes it up a lot. Coming from a well-to-do, influential
family in Kenya, it is ridiculous to suggest that he didn't know. Perhaps
BHO I deliberately and fraudently lied about his date of birth so that he
could continue to live in the U.S. -- it leads one to suspect that perhaps
his scholoarships or other funding may have been cut off at age 28. Some
of his financial backing would have cut off at age 28.

And who was funding Obama Senior? According to Harvard:

Jeff Neal, a spokesman for Harvard University, said that university
documents predating the INS file, which was compiled between 1961 and
1965, indicate “the University’s Center for International Affairs faced
serious constraints in providing financial support for research by
international graduate students in Cambridge, and that these students were
required to secure and demonstrate independent and sufficient sources of
funding in order to remain on campus.” (more here at the Independent)

And this curious factoid from The Obamas: The Untold Story of an African
Family by Peter Firstbrook:

In 1959, Tom Mboya announced the “Airlift Africa” program, with fund-
raising assistance from African-American public figures such as Jackie
Robinson, Harry Belafonte, and Sidney Poitier, as well as various white
liberals. The aim was to allow future Kenyan leaders to study on American
campuses. Obama, having left high school without doing his final exams,
didn’t get one of these scholarships. But eventually he prepared for and
took the exams, and, with the financial assistance of two American women
who were living in Nairobi, he was able to study at the University of
Hawaii, in Honolulu. Firstbrook adds, “The records of Barack’s move to the
United States are incomplete, but it seems that he also received some
funding from Jackie Robinson.” (NY Review of Books)

Add to this the timeline of BHO junior's mother. In October 2008, I
published emails concerning the inconsistencies in Stanley Ann Dunham's
timeline he

When public record information from the University of Washington was added
to Wikipedia’s biography of Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Hussein Obama Jr’s
mother), it was removed in 35 minutes the first time and 34 minutes the
second time. Read what Obama’s team of internet thugs doesn’t want you to
know.

See official emails from U of Hawaii and U (see below)

I'm concerned with the unlikely dates:

Sept 26 1960 First day at U of Hawaii for Ann (Why did she start 6 weeks
late?)

One month later - conception

Two months later - drops out of University of Hawaii

Three months later - married

10 months later - back in Washington attending classes at University of
Washington

These are implausible dates, and may imply that Ann got pregnant in
Seattle and THAT is why her family moved to Hawaii. University of
Washington records place Stanley Ann Dunham in Washington State in Aug
1961 so how could she be in Honolulu 2680 miles away birthing Barack the
same month.

When public record information from the University of Washington was added
to Wikipedia’s biography of Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Hussein Obama Jr’s
mother), it was removed in 35 minutes the first time and 34 minutes the
second time. Read what Obama’s team of internet thugs doesn’t want you to
know.

When I published in this post here, speculating as to who might be the
real father of BHO Jr., the leftwingers exploded and sought to destroy me
with it. So rabid was their response that it reminded me of the military
saying, if you are catching flak, you're over your target.

As graduation neared for the class of 1960, Stanley “Ann” Dunham (Barack’s
mother) had hoped to join many of her classmates at the University of
Washington. She was also accepted to the University of Chicago, according
to Obama's memoir, the best-selling "Dreams from My Father.", but she
popped up instead at the University of Hawaii nearly 6 weeks after the
start of the 1960 Fall semester. (See email from U of Hawaii at Manoa
below)

In a highly unlikely scenario, she then conceived Barack Hussein Obama Jr.
only one month after she started classes Sept 26th 1960. Then, while only
two months pregnant in early January 1961, Stanley “Ann” Dunham drops out
of college. She then supposedly married Barack Obama Sr. three months
after conception and only four months after arriving in Hawaii. And only
10 months after first arriving in Hawaii, she is back at the University of
Washington, 2680 miles away. (See email from U of Washington below).
Contrary to a massive disinformation scheme by the Obama campaign and the
news media, Stanley Ann Dunham did not return to the U of Hawaii until
Barack Obama Sr. left the island.

Madelyn Dunham, Barack’s maternal grandmother, abruptly left a lucrative
career in Seattle WA as VP Bank Officer in the late summer of 1960 to work
in Hawaii as an hourly wage bank teller. This afforded her time to raise
Barack Hussein Obama Jr. from birth. Madelyn reportedly did not return to
her previous salaried banker management level until years later when Ann
snatched Barack Jr. to go to Indonesia.

Barack Hussein Obama Jr’s mother, Stanley “Ann” Dunham, gave a telling
admission while still in Washington State as a recent high school graduate
in the summer of 1960 when she told her friends: "I don’t need to date or
marry to have children”. Oddly, although Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was
already married with children in Kenya, Ann supposedly married him in
order to legitimize her child’s birth.

Free Republic has an excellent summation here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2712867/posts

The source docs are he http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-
Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File.

On 7/3/2011 10:44 PM, P. Enis Reynaldo wrote:
On 03 Jul 2011, posted some
:

On Jul 2, 11:31 pm, John wrote:


I am not saying that kind of commitment togoldis for everyone, but
the 25% certainly IS!

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmmm....I wonder how much gold they will suck up?

Maybe we will see the price of gold collapse...and Johnny will be
selling apples on the street.


TMT


Get ****ed.

An Illegitimate Child, An Illegitimate President: Despite Multiple
Attempts, "No Comment" from the White House

Talk about your proverbial can of worms. Clearly, Barack Hussein Obama's
Immigration file was the impetus for President Obama to release his "long
form" last week. If he thought that would put the matter to rest, it has
had the opposite effect. It has all raised more questions than it
answered, as does the release of shocking revelations in BHO I's
immigration file.

Clearly, BHO I was never divorced from his first wife in Kenya. Further,
INS suspected the BHO I/Stanley Ann Dunham marriage was a sham, arranged
strictly to secure immigration status for him. But if Barack Senior was a
Muslim polygamist, his "marriage" to Stanley Ann Dunham was invalid. Obama
Senior was a Kenyan citizen. Kenya was still under English law at this
time.

Illegitimate children had different rights -- at least they certainly did
in 1789. There is no way that the founders of this great nation intended
for an illegitimate child of a foreign bigamist to attain the highest,
most powerful position in the new land.

Further, when BHO I returned to Kenya, he apparently lived with his Kenyan
first wife and his American third wife, suggesting that the Dunham
"divorce" was a transitory ruse.

In 1964, Ann Dunham filed for divorce. By then, Barack had taken up with
Ruth Nidesand, a teacher of Lithuanian-Jewish ancestry who became his
third wife. A year later, he gave up his doctoral studies and returned
home.
[...]
In the last decade of his life, Barack Obama Sr. slid slowly into the
abyss. He was fired from a series of jobs. He had, as Firstbrook puts it,
“a reputation for having a massive ego and a big mouth, both of which grew
alarmingly when he started drinking.” He was also, according to Ruth’s son
Mark, abusive to his wife and children, and Ruth eventually left him,
taking her sons with him. (NY Review of Books)

President Hussein Obama is not natural born. His father was not a US
citizen; he is, by that very fact, disqualified to serve as US President.
For those who believe that "natural born" is no longer relevant, you are
wrong. Armaros points out in the comments, "The reason the founders have
created this requirement was to prevent a British person from assuming US
citizenship with the purpose of ascending to higher office and compromise
the USA. To prevent a sort of sleeper spy/traitor from getting power in
the new nation." Clearly, from Obama's performance, that is a very clear
and present danger.

Multiple attempts to get comment from the White House press office have
not been returned (here).

An INS investigator, M.F. McKeon, wrote on June 8, 1964: “They (Harvard
officials) weren’t very impressed with him and asked us to hold up action
on his application until they decided what action they could take in order
to get rid of him. They were apparently having difficulty with his
financial arrangements and couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he
had.” (more here)

For years, the media and the left have excoriated anyone who questioned
the circumstances and events surrounding the birth of the President of the
United States. The lack of transparency and honesty only gave rise to more
suspicion. And rightly so. One doesn't hand over the reins of power to
just anyone, particularly those with an unknown or sketchy past. The
dearth of documentation and paperwork led to more speculation. The
American people were like Helen Keller and the Obama machine kept moving
the furniture. Who is this man, and what is he hiding?

The birth certificate issue became the rallying cry for those of us who
questioned the legitimacy of Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility for the
oval office. Our media did not vet BHO. In fact, they took it upon
themselves to destroy and smear those who did, or tried to.

The release of Barack Hussein Obama I's immigration file is stunning in
what it reveals and the questions it poses. BHO I's visa expired August 8,
1961 -- it that why they married? A white girl in a family way with a
mixed race child desperate for legitimacy in a culture that condemned such
behavior as abject immorality, and a con man from Kenya desperate to stay
in the USA? Was the marriage merely a business arrangement (she was 17
when she was knocked up)? She could not have been so savvy as to know that
BHO I was a Muslim polygamist. Is that why it was so important to place
the ads in the advertisers -- because he was about to be deported?

It is interesting to note that BHO I claims in the documents to have
divorced first wife Kezia "verbally." According to the sharia, a man can
divorce his wife by repeating it three times.

Despite the fact that BHO I had married Dunham, the government wasn't
buying it:

A memo from Lyle H. Dahlim of the INS, written in April, 1961, says the
agency “recommend(s) that Subject be closely questioned before another
extension is granted – and denial be considered. If his USC (United States
Citizen) wife tries to petition for him make sure an investigation is
conducted as to the bona-fide of the marriage.”

The child sealed it -- but who was the father? And it bears mentioning
that BHO I did not marry a different high school minor whom he
impregnated, according to these documents; most probably she went to
London for an abortion. But he married Stanley -- why? Immigration status.

The Boston Globe got the immigration file in 2009; why did they sit on it?
And who is Heather Smathers (the journalist who requested the FOIA)?
(Here)

Documents also show that Obama, Sr. entered the country in 1959, and
received several extensions to his visa prior to being denied in July,
1964.
A memo from Lyle H. Dahlim of the INS, written in April, 1961, says the
agency “recommend(s) that Subject be closely questioned before another
extension is granted – and denial be considered. If his USC (United States
Citizen) wife tries to petition for him make sure an investigation is
conducted as to the bona-fide of the marriage.”
The wife is Stanley Ann Dunham, the President’s mother, who married Obama,
Sr., in February, 1961.
The documents also show that the CIS investigated the elder Obama as a
polygamist, having a wife in Kenya and a “wife and child in Honolulu.”
Dahlim’s memo adds that “Polygamy is not an excludable or deportation
charge as Subject is a non-immigrant.”
Documents show that Obama, Sr. was denied an extension on his student visa
in July, 1964, in part because Harvard University, where Obama, Sr., was a
Ph.D. candidate, sought his removal. Obama Sr. eventually left the United
States willingly after becoming an illegal alien for remaining in the
country past the expiration of his visa.
An INS investigator, M.F. McKeon, wrote “They (Harvard officials) weren’t
very impressed with him and asked us to hold up action on his application
until they decided what action they could take in order to get rid of him.
They were apparently having difficulty with his financial arrangements and
couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he had.”
Documents show that Harvard officials considered Obama, Sr. to be a
“slippery character,” and conspired with the INS to have him deported.
Inquiries with the White House were not immediately returned.
The revelation of the handwritten memo mentioning the President’s birth
comes as lawmakers across the country grapple with so-called “birther”
bills, with Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoing proposed legislation requiring
all candidates for any office to produce a birth certificate prior to
their name appearing on the ballot. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, however,
has said he will sign a similar bill.

If he was born August 4, 1961 in a first pregnancy, it is likely that
conception occurred 40 weeks previously or so. I make this to be in early
November, and wonder how old Stanley Ann Dunham was then, where she was
living, with whom, and what level student she may have been.

Obama implied that his father and mother’s wedding may not have been
properly documented. "How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit
murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to
explore. There's no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving
away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it's not even clear
that people back in Kansas were informed." Obama writes that in his
memoir.

And this, Michelle Obama says that Senior and Anna were never married.
She described Anna as "very young and very single when she had him
(Obama)." (2nd source)

And this -- There is no evidence whatsoever that Senior and Anna ever
lived together anywhere, any time. The living arrangements between the
announcement of the wedding and the birth of the child were uncertain.
Most likely, Senior remained in his dorm room while Ann lived with her
parents. Letters written by acquaintances of Senior during the period
1960-1961 with accompanying photographs do not mention or show Anna at
all.

Another interesting note -- BHO I's multiple misrepresentations of his
birth year. He mixes it up a lot. Coming from a well-to-do, influential
family in Kenya, it is ridiculous to suggest that he didn't know. Perhaps
BHO I deliberately and fraudently lied about his date of birth so that he
could continue to live in the U.S. -- it leads one to suspect that perhaps
his scholoarships or other funding may have been cut off at age 28. Some
of his financial backing would have cut off at age 28.

And who was funding Obama Senior? According to Harvard:

Jeff Neal, a spokesman for Harvard University, said that university
documents predating the INS file, which was compiled between 1961 and
1965, indicate “the University’s Center for International Affairs faced
serious constraints in providing financial support for research by
international graduate students in Cambridge, and that these students were
required to secure and demonstrate independent and sufficient sources of
funding in order to remain on campus.” (more here at the Independent)

And this curious factoid from The Obamas: The Untold Story of an African
Family by Peter Firstbrook:

In 1959, Tom Mboya announced the “Airlift Africa” program, with fund-
raising assistance from African-American public figures such as Jackie
Robinson, Harry Belafonte, and Sidney Poitier, as well as various white
liberals. The aim was to allow future Kenyan leaders to study on American
campuses. Obama, having left high school without doing his final exams,
didn’t get one of these scholarships. But eventually he prepared for and
took the exams, and, with the financial assistance of two American women
who were living in Nairobi, he was able to study at the University of
Hawaii, in Honolulu. Firstbrook adds, “The records of Barack’s move to the
United States are incomplete, but it seems that he also received some
funding from Jackie Robinson.” (NY Review of Books)

Add to this the timeline of BHO junior's mother. In October 2008, I
published emails concerning the inconsistencies in Stanley Ann Dunham's
timeline he

When public record information from the University of Washington was added
to Wikipedia’s biography of Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Hussein Obama Jr’s
mother), it was removed in 35 minutes the first time and 34 minutes the
second time. Read what Obama’s team of internet thugs doesn’t want you to
know.

See official emails from U of Hawaii and U (see below)

I'm concerned with the unlikely dates:

Sept 26 1960 First day at U of Hawaii for Ann (Why did she start 6 weeks
late?)

One month later - conception

Two months later - drops out of University of Hawaii

Three months later - married

10 months later - back in Washington attending classes at University of
Washington

These are implausible dates, and may imply that Ann got pregnant in
Seattle and THAT is why her family moved to Hawaii. University of
Washington records place Stanley Ann Dunham in Washington State in Aug
1961 so how could she be in Honolulu 2680 miles away birthing Barack the
same month.

When public record information from the University of Washington was added
to Wikipedia’s biography of Stanley Ann Dunham (Barack Hussein Obama Jr’s
mother), it was removed in 35 minutes the first time and 34 minutes the
second time. Read what Obama’s team of internet thugs doesn’t want you to
know.

When I published in this post here, speculating as to who might be the
real father of BHO Jr., the leftwingers exploded and sought to destroy me
with it. So rabid was their response that it reminded me of the military
saying, if you are catching flak, you're over your target.

As graduation neared for the class of 1960, Stanley “Ann” Dunham (Barack’s
mother) had hoped to join many of her classmates at the University of
Washington. She was also accepted to the University of Chicago, according
to Obama's memoir, the best-selling "Dreams from My Father.", but she
popped up instead at the University of Hawaii nearly 6 weeks after the
start of the 1960 Fall semester. (See email from U of Hawaii at Manoa
below)

In a highly unlikely scenario, she then conceived Barack Hussein Obama Jr.
only one month after she started classes Sept 26th 1960. Then, while only
two months pregnant in early January 1961, Stanley “Ann” Dunham drops out
of college. She then supposedly married Barack Obama Sr. three months
after conception and only four months after arriving in Hawaii. And only
10 months after first arriving in Hawaii, she is back at the University of
Washington, 2680 miles away. (See email from U of Washington below).
Contrary to a massive disinformation scheme by the Obama campaign and the
news media, Stanley Ann Dunham did not return to the U of Hawaii until
Barack Obama Sr. left the island.

Madelyn Dunham, Barack’s maternal grandmother, abruptly left a lucrative
career in Seattle WA as VP Bank Officer in the late summer of 1960 to work
in Hawaii as an hourly wage bank teller. This afforded her time to raise
Barack Hussein Obama Jr. from birth. Madelyn reportedly did not return to
her previous salaried banker management level until years later when Ann
snatched Barack Jr. to go to Indonesia.

Barack Hussein Obama Jr’s mother, Stanley “Ann” Dunham, gave a telling
admission while still in Washington State as a recent high school graduate
in the summer of 1960 when she told her friends: "I don’t need to date or
marry to have children”. Oddly, although Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was
already married with children in Kenya, Ann supposedly married him in
order to legitimize her child’s birth.

Free Republic has an excellent summation here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2712867/posts

The source docs are he http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-
Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File.

Gesus, when you see that family of trash in text, they are disgusting
.... sane, upstanding, respectable people would have nothing to do with
them ... no wonder the politicians like him in their gang!

He is right at home with the womanizing, child molesting, homosexual
perverts in government!

Regards,
JS

On Jul 4, 12:44*am, "P. Enis Reynaldo"
wrote:
On 03 Jul 2011, Too_Many_Tools posted :





On Jul 2, 11:31*pm, John Smith wrote:

I am not saying that kind of commitment togoldis for everyone, but
the 25% certainly IS!

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmmm....I wonder how much gold they will suck up?

Maybe we will see the price of gold collapse...and Johnny will be
selling apples on the street.

TMT

Get ****ed.

An Illegitimate Child, An Illegitimate President: Despite Multiple
Attempts, "No Comment" from the White House

Talk about your proverbial can of worms. Clearly, Barack Hussein Obama's
Immigration file was the impetus for President Obama to release his "long
form" last week. If he thought that would put the matter to rest, it has
had the opposite effect. It has all raised more questions than it
answered, as does the release of shocking revelations in BHO I's
immigration file.

Clearly, BHO I was never divorced from his first wife in Kenya. Further,
INS suspected the BHO I/Stanley Ann Dunham marriage was a sham, arranged
strictly to secure immigration status for him. But if Barack Senior was a
Muslim polygamist, his "marriage" to Stanley Ann Dunham was invalid. Obama
Senior was a Kenyan citizen. Kenya was still under English law at this
time.

Illegitimate children had different rights -- at least they certainly did
in 1789. There is no way that the founders of this great nation intended
for an illegitimate child of a foreign bigamist to attain the highest,
most powerful position in the new land.

Further, when BHO I returned to Kenya, he apparently lived with his Kenyan
first wife and his American third wife, suggesting that the Dunham
"divorce" was a transitory ruse.

In 1964, Ann Dunham filed for divorce. By then, Barack had taken up with
Ruth Nidesand, a teacher of Lithuanian-Jewish ancestry who became his
third wife. A year later, he gave up his doctoral studies and returned
home.
[...]
In the last decade of his life, Barack Obama Sr. slid slowly into the
abyss. He was fired from a series of jobs. He had, as Firstbrook puts it,
“a reputation for having a massive ego and a big mouth, both of which grew
alarmingly when he started drinking.” He was also, according to Ruth’s son
Mark, abusive to his wife and children, and Ruth eventually left him,
taking her sons with him. (NY Review of Books)

President Hussein Obama is not natural born. His father was not a US
citizen; he is, by that very fact, disqualified to serve as US President.
For those who believe that "natural born" is no longer relevant, you are
wrong. Armaros points out in the comments, "The reason the founders have
created this requirement was to prevent a British person from assuming US
citizenship with the purpose of ascending to higher office and compromise
the USA. To prevent a sort of sleeper spy/traitor from getting power in
the new nation." Clearly, from Obama's performance, that is a very clear
and present danger.

Multiple attempts to get comment from the White House press office have
not been returned (here). *

An INS investigator, M.F. McKeon, wrote on June 8, 1964: “They (Harvard
officials) weren’t very impressed with him and asked us to hold up action
on his application until they decided what action they could take in order
to get rid of him. They were apparently having difficulty with his
financial arrangements and couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he
had.” (more here)

For years, the media and the left have excoriated anyone who questioned
the circumstances and events surrounding the birth of the President of the
United States. The lack of transparency and honesty only gave rise to more
suspicion. And rightly so. One doesn't hand over the reins of power to
just anyone, particularly those with an unknown or sketchy past. The
dearth of documentation and paperwork led to more speculation. The
American people were like Helen Keller and the Obama machine kept moving
the furniture. Who is this man, and what is he hiding?

The birth certificate issue became the rallying cry for those of us who
questioned the legitimacy of Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility for the
oval office. Our media did not vet BHO. In fact, they took it upon
themselves to destroy and smear those who did, or tried to.

The release of Barack Hussein Obama I's immigration file is stunning in
what it reveals and the questions it poses. BHO I's visa expired August 8,
1961 -- it that why they married? A white girl in a family way with a
mixed race child desperate for legitimacy in a culture that condemned such
behavior as abject immorality, and a con man from Kenya desperate to stay
in the USA? Was the marriage merely a business arrangement (she was 17
when she was knocked up)? She could not have been so savvy as to know that
BHO I was a Muslim polygamist. Is that why it was so important to place
the ads in the advertisers -- because he was about to be deported?

It is interesting to note that BHO I claims in the documents to have
divorced first wife Kezia "verbally." According to the sharia, a man can
divorce his wife by repeating it three times.

Despite the fact that BHO I had married Dunham, the government wasn't
buying it:

A memo from Lyle H. Dahlim of the INS, written in April, 1961, says the
agency “recommend(s) that Subject be closely questioned before another
extension is granted – and denial be considered. If his USC (United States
Citizen) wife tries to petition for him make sure an investigation is
conducted as to the bona-fide of the marriage.”

The child sealed it -- but who was the father? And it bears mentioning
that BHO I did not marry a different high school minor whom he
impregnated, according to these documents; most probably she went to
London for an abortion. But he married Stanley -- why? Immigration status..

The Boston Globe got the immigration file in 2009; why did they sit on it?
And who is Heather Smathers (the journalist who requested the FOIA)?
(Here)

Documents also show that Obama, Sr. entered the country in 1959, and
received several extensions to his visa prior to being denied in July,
1964.
A memo from Lyle H. Dahlim of the INS, written in April, 1961, says the
agency “recommend(s) that Subject be closely questioned before another
extension is granted – and denial be considered. If his USC (United States
Citizen) wife tries to petition for him make sure an investigation is
conducted as to the bona-fide of the marriage.”
The wife is Stanley Ann Dunham, the President’s mother, who married Obama,
Sr., in February, 1961.
The documents also show that the CIS investigated the elder Obama as a
polygamist, having a wife in Kenya and a “wife and child in Honolulu.”
Dahlim’s memo adds that “Polygamy is not an excludable or deportation
charge as Subject is a non-immigrant.”
Documents show that Obama, Sr. was denied an extension on his student visa
in July, 1964, in part because Harvard University, where Obama, Sr., was a
Ph.D. candidate, sought his removal. Obama Sr. eventually left the United
States willingly after becoming an illegal alien for remaining in the
country past the expiration of his visa.
An INS investigator, M.F. McKeon, wrote “They (Harvard officials) weren’t
very impressed with him and asked us to hold up action on his application
until they decided what action they could take in order to get rid of him..
They were apparently having difficulty with his financial arrangements and
couldn’t seem to figure out how many wives he had.”
Documents show that Harvard officials considered Obama, Sr. to be a
“slippery character,” and conspired with the INS to have him deported..
Inquiries with the White House were not immediately returned.
The revelation of the handwritten memo mentioning the President’s birth
comes as lawmakers across the country grapple with so-called “birther”
bills, with Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoing proposed legislation requiring
all candidates for any office to produce a birth certificate prior to
their name appearing on the ballot. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, however,
has said he will sign a similar bill.

If he was born August 4, 1961 in a first pregnancy, it is likely that
conception occurred 40 weeks previously or so. I make this to be in early
November, and wonder how old Stanley Ann Dunham was then, where she was
living, with whom, and what level student she may have been.

Obama implied that his father and mother’s wedding may not have been
properly documented. "How and when the marriage occurred remains a bit
murky, a bill of particulars that I have never quite had the courage to
explore. There's no record of a real wedding, a cake, a ring, a giving
away of the bride. No families were in attendance; it's not even clear
that people back in Kansas were informed." Obama writes that in his
memoir.

And this, Michelle Obama says that Senior and Anna were never married. *
She described Anna as "very young and very single when she had him
(Obama)." (2nd source)

And this -- There is no evidence whatsoever that Senior and Anna ever
lived together anywhere, any time. *The living arrangements between the
announcement of the wedding and the birth of the child were uncertain. *
Most likely, Senior remained in his dorm room while Ann lived with her
parents. *Letters written by acquaintances of Senior during the period
1960-1961 with accompanying photographs do not mention or show Anna at
all.

Another interesting note -- BHO I's multiple misrepresentations of his
birth year. He mixes it up a lot. Coming from a well-to-do, influential
family in Kenya, it is ridiculous to suggest that he didn't know. Perhaps
BHO I deliberately and fraudently lied about his date of birth so that he
could continue to ...

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LOL...I do..every night...and it is so sweet.

Tell your wife thanks.

TMT

On Jul 4, 1:07*am, John Smith wrote:
On 7/3/2011 10:44 PM, P. Enis Reynaldo wrote:

On 03 Jul 2011, *posted some
:

On Jul 2, 11:31 pm, John *wrote:

I am not saying that kind of commitment togoldis for everyone, but
the 25% certainly IS!

Regards,
JS- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hmmm....I wonder how much gold they will suck up?

Maybe we will see the price of gold collapse...and Johnny will be
selling apples on the street.

TMT

Get ****ed.

An Illegitimate Child, An Illegitimate President: Despite Multiple
Attempts, "No Comment" from the White House

Talk about your proverbial can of worms. Clearly, Barack Hussein Obama's
Immigration file was the impetus for President Obama to release his "long
form" last week. If he thought that would put the matter to rest, it has
had the opposite effect. It has all raised more questions than it
answered, as does the release of shocking revelations in BHO I's
immigration file.

Clearly, BHO I was never divorced from his first wife in Kenya. Further,
INS suspected the BHO I/Stanley Ann Dunham marriage was a sham, arranged
strictly to secure immigration status for him. But if Barack Senior was a
Muslim polygamist, his "marriage" to Stanley Ann Dunham was invalid. Obama
Senior was a Kenyan citizen. Kenya was still under English law at this
time.

Illegitimate children had different rights -- at least they certainly did
in 1789. There is no way that the founders of this great nation intended
for an illegitimate child of a foreign bigamist to attain the highest,
most powerful position in the new land.

Further, when BHO I returned to Kenya, he apparently lived with his Kenyan
first wife and his American third wife, suggesting that the Dunham
"divorce" was a transitory ruse.

In 1964, Ann Dunham filed for divorce. By then, Barack had taken up with
Ruth Nidesand, a teacher of Lithuanian-Jewish ancestry who became his
third wife. A year later, he gave up his doctoral studies and returned
home.
[...]
In the last decade of his life, Barack Obama Sr. slid slowly into the
abyss. He was fired from a series of jobs. He had, as Firstbrook puts it,
�a reputation for having a massive ego and a big mouth, both of which grew
alarmingly when he started drinking.� He was also, according to Ruth�s son
Mark, abusive to his wife and children, and Ruth eventually left him,
taking her sons with him. (NY Review of Books)

President Hussein Obama is not natural born. His father was not a US
citizen; he is, by that very fact, disqualified to serve as US President.

On 7/4/2011 8:50 AM, Too_Many_Tools wrote:

...
LOL...trying to change the subject..again.

Typical conservative tactic when they have lost the argument.

Got those apples ready yet?

TMT

You remind me of why we take off our shoes before going into the house,
we just might have accidentally stepped in something like you.

Regards,
JS