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Howard Brazee July 25th 11 06:25 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:59:18 -0700, dave wrote:

Let's roll back to 1999 spending percentages.


Spending as a percentage of GDP - and taxing as a percentage of GDP.


--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Howard Brazee July 25th 11 06:27 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman
wrote:

That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and
Afghanistan were under a trillion. Obamacare is almost that by itself.


Everybody has a different figure for this, depending on their
political position. It did nothing to lower medical costs, but
really didn't do much to raise medical costs either - only changing
how we buy insurance.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Scout July 25th 11 06:42 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 


"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:59:18 -0700, dave wrote:

Let's roll back to 1999 spending percentages.


Spending as a percentage of GDP - and taxing as a percentage of GDP.


So let's see,

Spending 32.65% of the GDP

Meanwhile we increase the debt by 1.34% of the GDP each year.

So tell me, how long until we are bankrupt?



RD Sandman July 25th 11 06:56 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
Howard Brazee wrote in
:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman
wrote:

That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and
Afghanistan were under a trillion. Obamacare is almost that by itself.


Everybody has a different figure for this, depending on their
political position. It did nothing to lower medical costs, but
really didn't do much to raise medical costs either - only changing
how we buy insurance.


It wasn't a healthcare plan, as you noted it was mostly insurance reform.
The costs came during the debates (what there were on it....).



--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.

Alan Baker July 25th 11 07:06 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the
"Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president
to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush
administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt
ceiling were it not for that.


Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a
steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off,
either.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

bpnjensen July 25th 11 07:22 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote:

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..."
-- Sir Winston Churchill


Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine the
UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love,
according to the ones I know, which are quite a few.

Bruce Jensen

John Smith[_8_] July 25th 11 07:38 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On 7/25/2011 11:06 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the
"Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president
to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush
administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt
ceiling were it not for that.


Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a
steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off,
either.


Well, you can, but if the aircraft has electronic over-rides, it will
only apply the correction in relation to what the plane can handle ...
now, in fighter/military aircraft, that can be VERY dramatic, possibly
creating g-forces which will black out the pilot ...

If structural design limits were allowed to be ignored, the
plane/aircraft would simply begin losing pieces of itself, or worse.

Regards,
JS


Alan Baker July 25th 11 07:44 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
In article ,
John Smith wrote:

On 7/25/2011 11:06 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
In ,
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the
"Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president
to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush
administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt
ceiling were it not for that.


Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a
steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off,
either.


Well, you can, but if the aircraft has electronic over-rides, it will
only apply the correction in relation to what the plane can handle ...
now, in fighter/military aircraft, that can be VERY dramatic, possibly
creating g-forces which will black out the pilot ...

If structural design limits were allowed to be ignored, the
plane/aircraft would simply begin losing pieces of itself, or worse.

Regards,
JS


Despite yourself, you've made my point.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

Howard Brazee July 25th 11 08:54 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:06:51 -0700, Alan Baker
wrote:

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a
steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off,
either.


In a spin, the first thing to do is put your nose down to gain some
airspeed, so you have some control. (Some planes recover well from
spins, others don't).

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

Alan Baker July 25th 11 10:35 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that
the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first
president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the
Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to
raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put

into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off,
either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?


Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has
no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?


I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a
steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by
flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

RHF July 25th 11 10:42 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 10:27*am, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman

wrote:
That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and
Afghanistan were under a trillion. *Obamacare is almost that by itself..


- Everybody has a different figure for this,
- depending on their political position.
- It did nothing to lower medical costs,
- but really didn't do much to raise medical
- costs either
- only changing how we buy insurance.


Actually for the ~80% who where 'Insured'
before Obama-Care : In general it does not
change the way they buy their 'insurance'.

However, for the ~20% who where NOT 'Insured'
before Obama-Care : In general it does Force
them to Buy 'Insurance' or be Taxed -aka- the
Coercion {Force} of Taxes.

The Obama-Regime has given so many so many
Obama-Care 'exemptions' to Big Businesses
{Mega-Employers like Wal*Mart and McDonald's}
with tens and hundreds of thousands of
employees; that the Employers Mandates do not
exist for many/most.

So Obama-Care 'Targets' the Individual Un-Insured
Employee with a Mandate to be 'Insured' or Taxed.

~ RHF

RD Sandman July 25th 11 10:44 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put

into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?


I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006
elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama
campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of
the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was
in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on
passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to
focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs
to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.

--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.

RHF July 25th 11 10:53 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 2:44*pm, RD Sandman wrote:
Alan Baker wrote :









In article ,
*RD Sandman wrote:


Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:


In article ,
*RD Sandman wrote:


Alan Baker wrote in
:


In article ,
*"Oglethorpe" wrote:


"dave" wrote in message
om...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote:


ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.


Yeah.


If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?


Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?


I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. *Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. *Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. *Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. *


- We also had a Democratically controlled House
- and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack
- of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,

The Point Being here is that if you want
to Blame Bush for Everything Pre-Obama:
Then Honesty Requires you to include both
Pelosi and Reid in the Blame Game Too !

Prez-A-Duntz can not Sign Laws that Both
Houses of the US Congress Do Not Pass as Bills
===== Bush & Pelosi & Reid =====

JohnJohnsn July 25th 11 10:54 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 4:42*pm, RHF wrote:

On Jul 25, 10:27*am, Howard Brazee wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman
rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:


That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and
Afghanistan were under a trillion. *Obamacare is almost that by itself..


- Everybody has a different figure for this,
- depending on their political position.
- It did nothing to lower medical costs,
- but really didn't do much to raise medical
- costs either
- only changing how we buy insurance.

Actually for the ~80% who where 'Insured'
before Obama-Care : In general it does not
change the way they buy their 'insurance'.

However, for the ~20% who where NOT 'Insured'
before Obama-Care : In general it does Force
them to Buy 'Insurance' or be Taxed -aka- the
Coercion {Force} of Taxes.

The Obama-Regime has given so many so many
Obama-Care 'exemptions' to Big Businesses
{Mega-Employers like Wal*Mart and McDonald's}
with tens and hundreds of thousands of
employees; that the Employers Mandates do not
exist for many/most.


Ergo, it is unconstitutional under the "Equal Protection" clause of
the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

So Obama-Care 'Targets' the Individual Un-Insured
Employee with a Mandate to be 'Insured' or Taxed.

~ RHF
--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
- James Madison


"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size.
Government programs, once launched, never disappear.
Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal
life we'll ever see on this earth! "
-- Ronald Reagan

JohnJohnsn July 25th 11 11:08 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 1:22*pm, bpnjensen wrote:

On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote:

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..."
-- Sir Winston Churchill


Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine
the UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love,
according to the ones I know, which are quite a few.

Bruce Jensen


Guess you never watched "Benny Hill." snicker

Alan Baker July 25th 11 11:09 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?


I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006
elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama
campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of
the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was
in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on
passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to
focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs
to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.


Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...idential_terms


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

JohnJohnsn July 25th 11 11:15 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 4:35*pm, Alan Baker wrote:

In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:


In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:


Alan Baker wrote in
:


In article ,
*"Oglethorpe" wrote:


"dave" wrote in message
...


On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:


On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote:


ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that
the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first
president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the
Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to
raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.


Yeah.


If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?


Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has
no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?


I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a
steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by
flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Following the analogy, it doesn't help that Obama has "pushed the
stick" _down_ instead of pulling _back_!

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg


"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size.
Government programs, once launched, never disappear.
Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal
life we'll ever see on this earth! "
-- Ronald Reagan

"Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever
redeeming a fallen nation, rather than leading a great one."
— Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal, 10/28/2010

"There are three branches of government: House, Senate, and the
President"
— Charles "Chuckie, the Cereal Killer" Schumer, 30 Jan 2011

"The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and
assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall."
--Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 B.C.

JohnJohnsn July 25th 11 11:26 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 5:09*pm, Alan Baker wrote:

In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:


In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:


Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:


In article ,
*RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote:


Alan Baker wrote in
:


In article ,
*"Oglethorpe" wrote:


"dave" wrote in message
om...


On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote:


ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us
that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama
the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than
the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no
need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.


Yeah.


If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put
into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it
off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?


Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that
has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your
implication?


I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in
a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just
by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. *Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. *Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on
his watch. *Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an
unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. *


We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006
elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama
campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of
the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. *The economy was
in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on
passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to
focus on the other two problems.


Yes, I believe those things. *I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs
to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.


Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...idential_terms


U.S. president Party Term years Start jobs* End jobs* created (in
millions) Average annual increase
George W. Bush R 2001–2005 132,469 132,453 +0.0 -0.0%
George W. Bush R 2005–2009 132,453 133,563 +1.1 +0.1%
Barack Obama D 2009–2013 133,563 131,753 (May 2011) -1.81 (May
2011) -.54% (May. 2011/Roughly 2.5 Years)
*In Thousands

Obama: -54%

To-wit: "Obama the jobs loser."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg


Barack Hussien Obama, Jr.:
-All the answers as a candidate;
-No solutions as the president!

If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist you'll
have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid!"

"Sunday, January 20th, 2013 - The End of an Error"

"Experience is a wonderful thing; it enables us to recognize
Left-Wing Lying Liberal Socialist LOSER Democrat™ BS
when we read it again and Again; and AGAIN!"
— Me

RD Sandman July 25th 11 11:37 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker-
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
"Oglethorpe" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 23, 8:48 am,
wrote:

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among
us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making
Obama the first president to preside over a U.S.
DEFAULT?


The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years
than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would
be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that.

Yeah.

If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has
put
into
a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level
it off, either.


How many more years do you think that excuse will fly?

Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse
that has no validity?


Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and
your implication?

I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was
in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed
just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not?


Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million
on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars,
an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the
2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a
continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under
Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama
was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance
reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama
needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame
things on Bush.


Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....


Yep, too many folks on both sides have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...esidential_ter
ms


What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million created
under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those + and -
signs mean, don't ya' know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms


How about:

07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and
ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years. Let's
see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less than 3.
Got it. Thanks.


--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.

Brenda Ann[_2_] July 26th 11 08:16 AM

The President Speaks
 


wrote in message
...

On Jul 25, 9:17 am, dave wrote:
On 07/24/2011 06:30 PM, wrote:



That is what they use in places like Texas . It is very old
fashioned . We still have electric chairs over here !


Wrong!


Ooops, I goofed here ! Texas is much more humane now . They give them
the 'easy death': by injection . . . Electricity is quite expensive
lately , as we all know . What happened to the rope ?


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I recall that Westley Allen Dodd requested hanging in Washington state back
in '93. That's the last one I can remember hearing about.


RHF July 26th 11 12:45 PM

The President Speaks
 
On Jul 26, 12:16*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:
wrote in ...

On Jul 25, 9:17 am, dave wrote:

On 07/24/2011 06:30 PM, wrote:


That is what they use in places like Texas . It is very old
fashioned . We still have electric chairs over here !


Wrong!


Ooops, I goofed here ! Texas is much more humane now . They give them
the 'easy death': by injection . . . *Electricity is quite expensive
lately , as we all know . What happened to the rope ?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I recall that Westley Allen Dodd requested hanging in Washington state back
in '93. That's the last one I can remember hearing about.


Plenty of Hangings occur in Jails/Prisons
every year in the USA most are called
'Suicides' : When in-fact many so called
'Suicides' are Inflected {Forced-On} on
the Victims by others.
-jail-house-suicide-'assisted'-by-cop-
The usual story line goes :
Prisoner Creates Problem
Prisoner is Removed from the general population
Prisoner is place Alone in a cell
Prisoner is later Found Hanged in that cell
-no-witnesses-how-convenient-&-end-of-problem-

dave July 26th 11 01:57 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On 07/25/2011 09:21 PM, wrote:

Does anyone know it was none other than Otto von Bismark(!) that
introduced a Universal Health Coverage in the 19th century Germany ?


I love his pastry!

J R July 26th 11 02:56 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
They are FLEEING in DROVES! So says an article at,
http://www.drudgereport.com

Base CRUMBLES! So says another article.

Yeah, in fact of the business,,,, Paul Gallo is talking about that right
now on his Super Talk Missy Sippy radio (receiver/boatanchor) talk show.
cuhulin


MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE July 26th 11 03:03 PM

OBAMUNISM:: HOW HELLWORLD COMES TO YOUR HOMETOWN. CHANGE YOU CAN *BELIEVE* IN.
 
Subject: OBAMUNISM:HOW HELLWORLD TAKES ROOT IN YOUR HOMETOWN. CHANGE YOU
CAN *BELIEVE* IN
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"Next year, you and I and everybody else will be freer
and have more space to say what we believe to be the truth"
-- CLINTON'08, w/emphasis on 'BELIEVE'...



HAITI is but a miniature of the world and how it succumbed to his designs.
OBAMA has merely put both Clinton's to shame in showing
them how easy it actually was...
How HELLWORLD could come to
your home and you like it...


Does *THIS* look like a man with a plan?

http://www.strangepolitics.com/image...ent/160688.jpg
http://blogs.sltrib.com/movies/uploa...t_l-741910.jpg




"The road to tyranny begins with the destruction of the Truth"
-- Clinton'95


DESERVE PEACE.
DESERVE FREEDOM.
DEMAND COMPETANCE.
DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY.
DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY.

IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.


OBAMA'S DRESDEN, delivered by his own TRUTH SQUADS

http://www.backseatblogger.com/funny...ic_bomb001.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5yhx...layer_embedded
..
They're the one's wearing the masks.
Time to put a SMILE ON THAT FACE, CITIZEN !!! or ELSE!


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MnMikew July 26th 11 03:44 PM

The President Speaks
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
On 07/22/2011 03:58 PM, dxAce wrote:

Sen. Barack (Clown 'tard) Obama, 2006

He voted then to NOT increase the debt limit.

Of course, George W. Bush was President at the time.


It was symbolic, not material.


Just like he is today.



bpnjensen July 26th 11 04:00 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 25, 3:08*pm, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 25, 1:22*pm, bpnjensen wrote:



On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote:


"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..."
-- Sir Winston Churchill


Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine
the UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love,
according to the ones I know, which are quite a few.


Bruce Jensen


Guess you never watched "Benny Hill." snicker


I must confess, Benny Hill was never on my watch list.

Bruce

[email protected] July 26th 11 04:16 PM

The President Speaks
 
On Jul 26, 7:45*am, RHF wrote:
On Jul 26, 12:16*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote:





wrote in ...


On Jul 25, 9:17 am, dave wrote:


On 07/24/2011 06:30 PM, wrote:


That is what they use in places like Texas . It is very old
fashioned . We still have electric chairs over here !


Wrong!


Ooops, I goofed here ! Texas is much more humane now . They give them
the 'easy death': by injection . . . *Electricity is quite expensive
lately , as we all know . What happened to the rope ?


---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----
---------------------------------------------------------------------------*-----


I recall that Westley Allen Dodd requested hanging in Washington state back
in '93. That's the last one I can remember hearing about.


Plenty of Hangings occur in Jails/Prisons
every year in the USA most are called
'Suicides' : When in-fact many so called
'Suicides' are Inflected {Forced-On} on
the Victims by others.
-jail-house-suicide-'assisted'-by-cop-
The usual story line goes :
Prisoner Creates Problem
Prisoner is Removed from the general population
Prisoner is place Alone in a cell
Prisoner is later Found Hanged in that cell
-no-witnesses-how-convenient-&-end-of-problem-
*.
*.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Is this what happened to Rudolf Hess ?

[email protected] July 26th 11 04:23 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 26, 8:57*am, dave wrote:
On 07/25/2011 09:21 PM, wrote:

Does anyone know it was none other than Otto von Bismark(!) that
introduced a Universal Health Coverage in the 19th century Germany ?


I love his pastry!


Bismark did a lot of good AND evil things . Never heard of him making
doughnuts !

JohnJohnsn July 26th 11 04:55 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 26, 10:00*am, bpnjensen wrote:

On Jul 25, 3:08*pm, JohnJohnsn wrote:

On Jul 25, 1:22*pm, bpnjensen wrote:


On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote:


"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..."
-- Sir Winston Churchill


Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine
the UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love,
according to the ones I know, which are quite a few.


Guess you never watched "Benny Hill." snicker


I must confess, Benny Hill was never on my watch list.


He used to parody NHS routinely.

The best was Episode 34:" Leprechaun TV: Opening Night":

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0521458/plotsummary

dave July 27th 11 02:27 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On 07/26/2011 08:00 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jul 25, 3:08 pm, wrote:



Guess you never watched "Benny Hill."snicker


I must confess, Benny Hill was never on my watch list.

Bruce


Same here. I never got past that stupid music.

dave July 27th 11 02:31 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On 07/26/2011 08:23 AM, wrote:
On Jul 26, 8:57 am, wrote:
On 07/25/2011 09:21 PM, wrote:

Does anyone know it was none other than Otto von Bismark(!) that
introduced a Universal Health Coverage in the 19th century Germany ?


I love his pastry!


Bismark did a lot of good AND evil things . Never heard of him making
doughnuts !


Berliner Pfannkuchen

A Central European or German doughnut is called the Berliner
Pfannkuchen, also known as a Bismark. It is commonly a jam filled
doughnut, coated with icing or powered sugar. Berliners are also made
with a chocolate or custard filling, or no filling at all.

[email protected] July 28th 11 04:09 AM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
On Jul 26, 8:57*am, dave wrote:
On 07/25/2011 09:21 PM, wrote:

Does anyone know it was none other than Otto von Bismark(!) that
introduced a Universal Health Coverage in the 19th century Germany ?


I love his pastry!


And Dunkin Donuts calls them 'bavarian cream' !

Alan Baker July 28th 11 05:31 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the
regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the
Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new
home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million
on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars,
an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the
2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,
Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a
continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under
Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama
was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance
reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama
needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame
things on Bush.


Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....


Yep, too many folks on both sides have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...esidential_ter
ms


What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million created
under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those + and -
signs mean, don't ya' know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms


How about:

07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and
ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years. Let's
see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less than 3.
Got it. Thanks.


Hmmmm...

You brought Clinton into the discussion, but suddenly you don't want to
include him anymore...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

J R July 28th 11 06:21 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
Crazy Luke Woodham (what he did about fourteen years ago, I think it was
about fourteen years ago) is asking for clemency.
Missy Sippy Governor Haly Barbour (is Barbour a Frog name? I think so)
said, I would be flabbergasted if the parole board reccomended clemency.

Luke Woodham will ROT and DIE in Parchman State Prison!
cuhulin


J R July 28th 11 06:42 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
Fort Hood Plot: AWOL U.S.Serviceman Arrested
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=311112

AWOL MORON G.W.Bush is Stilllllllllllll AWOL!!!
cuhulin


RD Sandman July 28th 11 07:26 PM

Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
 
Alan Baker wrote in
:

In article ,
RD Sandman wrote:

Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the
Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and
the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets
and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8
million new home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire
for 5.5 million on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we
had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc.

We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the
2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie
Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a
continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under
Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and
Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill
(insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems.

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama
needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame
things on Bush.

Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields....


Yep, too many folks on both sides have them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr..._presidential_
ter ms


What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million
created under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those
+ and - signs mean, don't ya' know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...esidential_ter
ms


How about:

07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199
09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79
09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75
09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49
09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48
09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23
09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50
09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32
09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62
09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16
09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06
09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86

We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and
ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years.
Let's see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less
than 3. Got it. Thanks.


Hmmmm...

You brought Clinton into the discussion, but suddenly you don't want
to include him anymore...


What nmakes you think that? I also included his last fiscal year
budget.....simply because during Clinton is where some of the seeds of
our current predicament were sown. Your tendency was to place ALL the
blame on Bush.....

--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.

Saul Zonana July 28th 11 08:10 PM

Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
 
RD Sandman wrote:

m II wrote in :


RD Sandman wrote:


Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama


need

s

to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.



Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove
rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross posting
is getting really irritating.



I don't crosspost to anyone although when I respond to a post that has
been crossposted, I don't know what newsgroup the person I am responding
is in......ergo, I don't change those attributes.


Thank you.



You are welcome......


mike



BTW, some of these PGP signatures get a little irritating with the
bandwidth they eat up. Not asking you to delete it, just letting you
know that you also do things that irritate other people.

Ciao......




I added rec.radio.shortwave just so that would know. :)

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RD Sandman July 28th 11 08:35 PM

Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
 
Saul Zonana wrote in
:

RD Sandman wrote:

m II wrote in :


RD Sandman wrote:


Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama


need

s

to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things
on Bush.



Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove
rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross
posting is getting really irritating.



I don't crosspost to anyone although when I respond to a post that
has been crossposted, I don't know what newsgroup the person I am
responding is in......ergo, I don't change those attributes.


Thank you.



You are welcome......


mike



BTW, some of these PGP signatures get a little irritating with the
bandwidth they eat up. Not asking you to delete it, just letting you
know that you also do things that irritate other people.

Ciao......




I added rec.radio.shortwave just so that would know. :)


I, personally, don't care. I simply respond to a post leaving those
attributes intact. ;)


--
RD (The Sandman)

Thought for the day.......

Handle every stressful situation like a dog would.
If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away.

Saul Zonana July 28th 11 09:03 PM

Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
 
RD Sandman wrote:

Saul Zonana wrote in
:


RD Sandman wrote:


m II wrote in :



RD Sandman wrote:



Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama

need


s


to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things
on Bush.



Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove
rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross
posting is getting really irritating.


I don't crosspost to anyone although when I respond to a post that
has been crossposted, I don't know what newsgroup the person I am
responding is in......ergo, I don't change those attributes.



Thank you.


You are welcome......



mike


BTW, some of these PGP signatures get a little irritating with the
bandwidth they eat up. Not asking you to delete it, just letting you
know that you also do things that irritate other people.

Ciao......




I added rec.radio.shortwave just so that they would know. :)



I, personally, don't care. I simply respond to a post leaving those
attributes intact. ;)



Yer a good man, Charlie Brown.

gpsman July 29th 11 01:23 AM

Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
 
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:09:50 -0600, m II wrote:

RD Sandman wrote:

Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs
to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on
Bush.



Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove
rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross posting
is getting really irritating.

Thank you.


The objective of maniacal crossposting/OT is to annoy.

Imagine those lives and have pity.
-----

- gpsman


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