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Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:59:18 -0700, dave wrote:
Let's roll back to 1999 spending percentages. Spending as a percentage of GDP - and taxing as a percentage of GDP. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman
wrote: That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan were under a trillion. Obamacare is almost that by itself. Everybody has a different figure for this, depending on their political position. It did nothing to lower medical costs, but really didn't do much to raise medical costs either - only changing how we buy insurance. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
"Howard Brazee" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 05:59:18 -0700, dave wrote: Let's roll back to 1999 spending percentages. Spending as a percentage of GDP - and taxing as a percentage of GDP. So let's see, Spending 32.65% of the GDP Meanwhile we increase the debt by 1.34% of the GDP each year. So tell me, how long until we are bankrupt? |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
Howard Brazee wrote in
: On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan were under a trillion. Obamacare is almost that by itself. Everybody has a different figure for this, depending on their political position. It did nothing to lower medical costs, but really didn't do much to raise medical costs either - only changing how we buy insurance. It wasn't a healthcare plan, as you noted it was mostly insurance reform. The costs came during the debates (what there were on it....). -- RD (The Sandman) Thought for the day....... Handle every stressful situation like a dog would. If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away. |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
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"Oglethorpe" wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote:
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..." -- Sir Winston Churchill Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine the UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love, according to the ones I know, which are quite a few. Bruce Jensen |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On 7/25/2011 11:06 AM, Alan Baker wrote:
In , wrote: wrote in message ... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. Well, you can, but if the aircraft has electronic over-rides, it will only apply the correction in relation to what the plane can handle ... now, in fighter/military aircraft, that can be VERY dramatic, possibly creating g-forces which will black out the pilot ... If structural design limits were allowed to be ignored, the plane/aircraft would simply begin losing pieces of itself, or worse. Regards, JS |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
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John Smith wrote: On 7/25/2011 11:06 AM, Alan Baker wrote: In , wrote: wrote in message ... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. Well, you can, but if the aircraft has electronic over-rides, it will only apply the correction in relation to what the plane can handle ... now, in fighter/military aircraft, that can be VERY dramatic, possibly creating g-forces which will black out the pilot ... If structural design limits were allowed to be ignored, the plane/aircraft would simply begin losing pieces of itself, or worse. Regards, JS Despite yourself, you've made my point. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:06:51 -0700, Alan Baker
wrote: If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. In a spin, the first thing to do is put your nose down to gain some airspeed, so you have some control. (Some planes recover well from spins, others don't). -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 10:27*am, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman wrote: That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan were under a trillion. *Obamacare is almost that by itself.. - Everybody has a different figure for this, - depending on their political position. - It did nothing to lower medical costs, - but really didn't do much to raise medical - costs either - only changing how we buy insurance. Actually for the ~80% who where 'Insured' before Obama-Care : In general it does not change the way they buy their 'insurance'. However, for the ~20% who where NOT 'Insured' before Obama-Care : In general it does Force them to Buy 'Insurance' or be Taxed -aka- the Coercion {Force} of Taxes. The Obama-Regime has given so many so many Obama-Care 'exemptions' to Big Businesses {Mega-Employers like Wal*Mart and McDonald's} with tens and hundreds of thousands of employees; that the Employers Mandates do not exist for many/most. So Obama-Care 'Targets' the Individual Un-Insured Employee with a Mandate to be 'Insured' or Taxed. ~ RHF |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
Alan Baker wrote in
: In article , RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker- : In article , RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , "Oglethorpe" wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. How many more years do you think that excuse will fly? Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has no validity? Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your implication? I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not? Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems. Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. -- RD (The Sandman) Thought for the day....... Handle every stressful situation like a dog would. If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away. |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 2:44*pm, RD Sandman wrote:
Alan Baker wrote : In article , *RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker- : In article , *RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , *"Oglethorpe" wrote: "dave" wrote in message om... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. How many more years do you think that excuse will fly? Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has no validity? Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your implication? I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not? Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. *Clinton wanted 8 million new home owners. *Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on his watch. *Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. * - We also had a Democratically controlled House - and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack - of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, The Point Being here is that if you want to Blame Bush for Everything Pre-Obama: Then Honesty Requires you to include both Pelosi and Reid in the Blame Game Too ! Prez-A-Duntz can not Sign Laws that Both Houses of the US Congress Do Not Pass as Bills ===== Bush & Pelosi & Reid ===== |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 4:42*pm, RHF wrote:
On Jul 25, 10:27*am, Howard Brazee wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:25:31 -0500, RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote: That's an interesting observation since the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan were under a trillion. *Obamacare is almost that by itself.. - Everybody has a different figure for this, - depending on their political position. - It did nothing to lower medical costs, - but really didn't do much to raise medical - costs either - only changing how we buy insurance. Actually for the ~80% who where 'Insured' before Obama-Care : In general it does not change the way they buy their 'insurance'. However, for the ~20% who where NOT 'Insured' before Obama-Care : In general it does Force them to Buy 'Insurance' or be Taxed -aka- the Coercion {Force} of Taxes. The Obama-Regime has given so many so many Obama-Care 'exemptions' to Big Businesses {Mega-Employers like Wal*Mart and McDonald's} with tens and hundreds of thousands of employees; that the Employers Mandates do not exist for many/most. Ergo, it is unconstitutional under the "Equal Protection" clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. So Obama-Care 'Targets' the Individual Un-Insured Employee with a Mandate to be 'Insured' or Taxed. ~ RHF -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison "No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! " -- Ronald Reagan |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 1:22*pm, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote: "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..." -- Sir Winston Churchill Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine the UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love, according to the ones I know, which are quite a few. Bruce Jensen Guess you never watched "Benny Hill." snicker |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
In article ,
RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker- : In article , RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , "Oglethorpe" wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. How many more years do you think that excuse will fly? Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has no validity? Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your implication? I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not? Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems. Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...idential_terms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 4:35*pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article , *RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote: Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker- : In article , *RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , *"Oglethorpe" wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. How many more years do you think that excuse will fly? Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has no validity? Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your implication? I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not? Following the analogy, it doesn't help that Obama has "pushed the stick" _down_ instead of pulling _back_! -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg "No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth! " -- Ronald Reagan "Barack Obama put the Democrats in the position of forever redeeming a fallen nation, rather than leading a great one." — Shelby Steele, Wall Street Journal, 10/28/2010 "There are three branches of government: House, Senate, and the President" — Charles "Chuckie, the Cereal Killer" Schumer, 30 Jan 2011 "The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall." --Marcus Tullius Cicero, 55 B.C. |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 5:09*pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article , *RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , *RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote: Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker- : In article , *RD Sandman rdsandman@comcast,net wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , *"Oglethorpe" wrote: "dave" wrote in message om... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, *wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. How many more years do you think that excuse will fly? Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has no validity? Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your implication? I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not? Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. *Clinton wanted 8 million new home owners. *Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on his watch. *Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. * We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. *The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems. Yes, I believe those things. *I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...idential_terms U.S. president Party Term years Start jobs* End jobs* created (in millions) Average annual increase George W. Bush R 2001–2005 132,469 132,453 +0.0 -0.0% George W. Bush R 2005–2009 132,453 133,563 +1.1 +0.1% Barack Obama D 2009–2013 133,563 131,753 (May 2011) -1.81 (May 2011) -.54% (May. 2011/Roughly 2.5 Years) *In Thousands Obama: -54% To-wit: "Obama the jobs loser." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg Barack Hussien Obama, Jr.: -All the answers as a candidate; -No solutions as the president! If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist you'll have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid!" "Sunday, January 20th, 2013 - The End of an Error" "Experience is a wonderful thing; it enables us to recognize Left-Wing Lying Liberal Socialist LOSER Democrat™ BS when we read it again and Again; and AGAIN!" — Me |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
Alan Baker wrote in
: In article , RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in news:alangbaker- : In article , RD Sandman wrote: Alan Baker wrote in : In article , "Oglethorpe" wrote: "dave" wrote in message ... On 7/24/2011 7:34 AM, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 23, 8:48 am, wrote: ISN'T IT OBVIOUS to all but you brainless racists among us that the "Boehner Plan" is aimed squarely at making Obama the first president to preside over a U.S. DEFAULT? The Obama administration spent more in less than 3 years than the Bush administration did in eight years. There would be no need to raise the debt ceiling were it not for that. Yeah. If you take over the controls of an aircraft that someone has put into a steep dive, you can't just yank the controls back to level it off, either. How many more years do you think that excuse will fly? Before I answer: do you really think that is is just an excuse that has no validity? Do you mean the aircraft metaphor or the comment about Obama and your implication? I mean do you really think that the fact that the U.S. economy was in a steep decline when Obama took office and it cannot be reversed just by flicking a switch: do you think that that is valid or not? Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems. Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields.... Yep, too many folks on both sides have them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...esidential_ter ms What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million created under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those + and - signs mean, don't ya' know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms How about: 07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199 09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79 09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75 09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49 09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48 09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23 09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50 09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32 09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62 09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16 09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06 09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86 We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years. Let's see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less than 3. Got it. Thanks. -- RD (The Sandman) Thought for the day....... Handle every stressful situation like a dog would. If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away. |
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wrote in message ... On Jul 25, 9:17 am, dave wrote: On 07/24/2011 06:30 PM, wrote: That is what they use in places like Texas . It is very old fashioned . We still have electric chairs over here ! Wrong! Ooops, I goofed here ! Texas is much more humane now . They give them the 'easy death': by injection . . . Electricity is quite expensive lately , as we all know . What happened to the rope ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I recall that Westley Allen Dodd requested hanging in Washington state back in '93. That's the last one I can remember hearing about. |
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On Jul 26, 12:16*am, "Brenda Ann"
wrote: wrote in ... On Jul 25, 9:17 am, dave wrote: On 07/24/2011 06:30 PM, wrote: That is what they use in places like Texas . It is very old fashioned . We still have electric chairs over here ! Wrong! Ooops, I goofed here ! Texas is much more humane now . They give them the 'easy death': by injection . . . *Electricity is quite expensive lately , as we all know . What happened to the rope ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I recall that Westley Allen Dodd requested hanging in Washington state back in '93. That's the last one I can remember hearing about. Plenty of Hangings occur in Jails/Prisons every year in the USA most are called 'Suicides' : When in-fact many so called 'Suicides' are Inflected {Forced-On} on the Victims by others. -jail-house-suicide-'assisted'-by-cop- The usual story line goes : Prisoner Creates Problem Prisoner is Removed from the general population Prisoner is place Alone in a cell Prisoner is later Found Hanged in that cell -no-witnesses-how-convenient-&-end-of-problem- |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
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Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
They are FLEEING in DROVES! So says an article at,
http://www.drudgereport.com Base CRUMBLES! So says another article. Yeah, in fact of the business,,,, Paul Gallo is talking about that right now on his Super Talk Missy Sippy radio (receiver/boatanchor) talk show. cuhulin |
OBAMUNISM:: HOW HELLWORLD COMES TO YOUR HOMETOWN. CHANGE YOU CAN *BELIEVE* IN.
Subject: OBAMUNISM:HOW HELLWORLD TAKES ROOT IN YOUR HOMETOWN. CHANGE YOU
CAN *BELIEVE* IN Newsgroups: newsrazor:talk.politics.guns,rec.radio.shortwave,a lt.conspiracy,alt.fan.ru sh-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.democrats,alt.republican s "Next year, you and I and everybody else will be freer and have more space to say what we believe to be the truth" -- CLINTON'08, w/emphasis on 'BELIEVE'... HAITI is but a miniature of the world and how it succumbed to his designs. OBAMA has merely put both Clinton's to shame in showing them how easy it actually was... How HELLWORLD could come to your home and you like it... Does *THIS* look like a man with a plan? http://www.strangepolitics.com/image...ent/160688.jpg http://blogs.sltrib.com/movies/uploa...t_l-741910.jpg "The road to tyranny begins with the destruction of the Truth" -- Clinton'95 DESERVE PEACE. DESERVE FREEDOM. DEMAND COMPETANCE. DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY. DEFEAT LIB STRATEGIC INSANITY. IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. OBAMA'S DRESDEN, delivered by his own TRUTH SQUADS http://www.backseatblogger.com/funny...ic_bomb001.jpg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5yhx...layer_embedded .. They're the one's wearing the masks. Time to put a SMILE ON THAT FACE, CITIZEN !!! or ELSE! LIBs. What Price their Vision? --- hddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd ddddddddddddddddddddddd- dddyoo+++++++++++++++++++++ooossssooo+//++/+++++++++++++++++++oooooosmddd- dhd/...........-.-..-/oydmNMMMMMMMMMMNNdhyo+:-...................---:mddd- ddh:............-+sdNMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmdyo:................-.:ddhd- dhd:........-/sdNMMMMMMMNNNmhhhhhddNMNMMNMMMMMMMMMho:........... ....-ydhd- dhd:....../hNMMNs/:::---...........-..-..--/+sydNMMMNd/...-..........ohhd- dhd-.....:mMMd/-..``````````````````````.`````..+symMMMd/............ohdd- ddd-..../mNMd-``````````````````````````.`````````.+MMMMN+...... .....ohhd- dhd-...:NMNm+.````````````````````````````````````.:mM MMMN/..........odhh- dhd-...hNMNs.``````````````````````````````````````.:y NMMMs..........ohhh- ddd-.`.NNNs-`````````````````````````````````````````.:hMMh... .......odhh- ddh..`.NMo.`````----::/++::..``````````.----:--:-.```..:mMo..........odhd- hdh.:-.dN-..-/ydmmmmmmmNNNNmdo.`````./ymNmNmmmmNNmdy+:..mM/..........+dhd- ddy-oo/+d-`-omMMMMmydmddshdMMd-`````.sMMhodddmdNMMMMNo-`ds:+s`.......+ddd- hds...-+y-.-odMMMMmdddmmmmNms:.``````:ymmmmmmNNMMMdhy:``+/-.-``......+dhd- ddo...`.+-`../ydddhdddhyho+-```````````-++/+soo+o+:--.``:.`````......oddd- ddo....`.-`````.----:-.`..```````````````````````````````````........ohh d- hdo....`.-.````````````````````````````````````````````.```` .........ohhh- hh+......-.`````````````.-::/:.`.`.:///:`````````....`..````.........ohhd- hh+.......`.:+:--.`.````.:++/+osss++++/:`````..+/oyyo.`````..........oddd- dh+..........ommmss+--....`.....-...........-/sdmNh+:..```...........sdhd- dh/..........:hNNdNmhhysyyhhhhyyyyhhhhyhyyyhdmNmss-`````.............ydhh- dh/.........../ys/ssssyhhdddhyyyyyyydddhhsoosso/--.````.............-ydhh- dh/............o+-...-:/++ossyyyyhyssoo+//:://:::.`````.............-ddhd- dd/.........-+/sNho:.....://++/++++//:.....`.:os..````..............-ddhd- dh/.......:smh.-hMMms-``````.......```````.-odNo:ms:..`.............-ddhd- dd+.--:/shNMN/...+hmNmyo:-..```````..--:/ohNNd+-.mMNds+/:--.........-mdhd- ddshdmNMMMMMm:.....-+hmNNNdhsss+ossyhddNNNmy/--..oMMMMMMNNmdhso/::--:mdhd- dmyNMMMMMMMMMo......`.-/ymNMMMMMMMMMMMNmy/-.....:sMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNmdmdhd- dmhMMMMMMMMMMm-...```....-+ydNMMMMNNds/-...```..-hMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNddd. ddhmNNNNNNNNNNs-------------+ymmmdo/:--....----::mNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNmddd. dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddhhddhhhhhhhdddddd dddddddddddddddddddddhd` :::::////:::://///:/:://+/////////:////://///:::/::::///:::::::::::-----. /dyyds -hhyyho` -yhyhd/ om` -md` -N- `N/ odyhd+ .Nmy `mmh yNo///`.No .Ns.No -: sN` `mydy :M: `M+ mdo:/: .MyM.+Nhd `/oydm-:M: mh-M/ `` oN` yN/+M+ :M: `M+ ./oymd..M/mymsyd `dh:-+N/ ym+-:ym- sm+/+my oN`+No++sN-:Mo///-`M+.my::sN-.M/+MM.yd `:+o+. -+o+:` `/+/. -/`/: /:`+++++: +. `/oo/. `+.`+/ :/ |
The President Speaks
"dave" wrote in message ... On 07/22/2011 03:58 PM, dxAce wrote: Sen. Barack (Clown 'tard) Obama, 2006 He voted then to NOT increase the debt limit. Of course, George W. Bush was President at the time. It was symbolic, not material. Just like he is today. |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 25, 3:08*pm, JohnJohnsn wrote:
On Jul 25, 1:22*pm, bpnjensen wrote: On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote: "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..." -- Sir Winston Churchill Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine the UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love, according to the ones I know, which are quite a few. Bruce Jensen Guess you never watched "Benny Hill." snicker I must confess, Benny Hill was never on my watch list. Bruce |
The President Speaks
On Jul 26, 7:45*am, RHF wrote:
On Jul 26, 12:16*am, "Brenda Ann" wrote: wrote in ... On Jul 25, 9:17 am, dave wrote: On 07/24/2011 06:30 PM, wrote: That is what they use in places like Texas . It is very old fashioned . We still have electric chairs over here ! Wrong! Ooops, I goofed here ! Texas is much more humane now . They give them the 'easy death': by injection . . . *Electricity is quite expensive lately , as we all know . What happened to the rope ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*----- I recall that Westley Allen Dodd requested hanging in Washington state back in '93. That's the last one I can remember hearing about. Plenty of Hangings occur in Jails/Prisons every year in the USA most are called 'Suicides' : When in-fact many so called 'Suicides' are Inflected {Forced-On} on the Victims by others. -jail-house-suicide-'assisted'-by-cop- The usual story line goes : Prisoner Creates Problem Prisoner is Removed from the general population Prisoner is place Alone in a cell Prisoner is later Found Hanged in that cell -no-witnesses-how-convenient-&-end-of-problem- *. *.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Is this what happened to Rudolf Hess ? |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 26, 8:57*am, dave wrote:
On 07/25/2011 09:21 PM, wrote: Does anyone know it was none other than Otto von Bismark(!) that introduced a Universal Health Coverage in the 19th century Germany ? I love his pastry! Bismark did a lot of good AND evil things . Never heard of him making doughnuts ! |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 26, 10:00*am, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jul 25, 3:08*pm, JohnJohnsn wrote: On Jul 25, 1:22*pm, bpnjensen wrote: On Jul 25, 5:47*am, JohnJohnsn wrote: "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..." -- Sir Winston Churchill Winston Churchill was a major advocate of the socialized medicine the UK has today - which, BTW, the rank and file Brits generally love, according to the ones I know, which are quite a few. Guess you never watched "Benny Hill." snicker I must confess, Benny Hill was never on my watch list. He used to parody NHS routinely. The best was Episode 34:" Leprechaun TV: Opening Night": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0521458/plotsummary |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On 07/26/2011 08:00 AM, bpnjensen wrote:
On Jul 25, 3:08 pm, wrote: Guess you never watched "Benny Hill."snicker I must confess, Benny Hill was never on my watch list. Bruce Same here. I never got past that stupid music. |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
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Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
On Jul 26, 8:57*am, dave wrote:
On 07/25/2011 09:21 PM, wrote: Does anyone know it was none other than Otto von Bismark(!) that introduced a Universal Health Coverage in the 19th century Germany ? I love his pastry! And Dunkin Donuts calls them 'bavarian cream' ! |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
In article ,
RD Sandman wrote: Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems. Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields.... Yep, too many folks on both sides have them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr...esidential_ter ms What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million created under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those + and - signs mean, don't ya' know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms How about: 07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199 09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79 09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75 09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49 09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48 09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23 09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50 09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32 09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62 09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16 09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06 09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86 We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years. Let's see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less than 3. Got it. Thanks. Hmmmm... You brought Clinton into the discussion, but suddenly you don't want to include him anymore... -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
Crazy Luke Woodham (what he did about fourteen years ago, I think it was
about fourteen years ago) is asking for clemency. Missy Sippy Governor Haly Barbour (is Barbour a Frog name? I think so) said, I would be flabbergasted if the parole board reccomended clemency. Luke Woodham will ROT and DIE in Parchman State Prison! cuhulin |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
Fort Hood Plot: AWOL U.S.Serviceman Arrested
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=311112 AWOL MORON G.W.Bush is Stilllllllllllll AWOL!!! cuhulin |
Playing "catch up" after 8 years of neglect?
Alan Baker wrote in
: In article , RD Sandman wrote: Yes, I believe that the decline actually started at the end of the Clinton administration with the dot.com industry going bust and the regulations being eased on the housing and financial markets and the Democrats' dream of new home ownership. Clinton wanted 8 million new home owners. Bush continued that dream with a desire for 5.5 million on his watch. Oversight went in the toilet, we had 9/11, two wars, an unfunded mandate on Medicare Part D, etc. We also had a Democratically controlled House and Senate since the 2006 elections and lack of oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama campaigning that Afghanistan was the "right" war and a continuation of the many of the same policies that existed under Bush. The economy was in the toilet, jobs were going away and Obama was concentrating on passing his historic healthcare bill (insurance reform) rather than to focus on the other two problems. Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Wow. Talk about reality distortion fields.... Yep, too many folks on both sides have them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_cr..._presidential_ ter ms What did you want me to look at on that cite? The 1.1 million created under Bush or the 1.81 lost under Obama? That is what those + and - signs mean, don't ya' know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...esidential_ter ms How about: 07/25/2011 14,535,921,315,199 09/30/2010 13,561,623,030,891.79 09/30/2009 11,909,829,003,511.75 09/30/2008 10,024,724,896,912.49 09/30/2007 9,007,653,372,262.48 09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215.23 09/30/2005 7,932,709,661,723.50 09/30/2004 7,379,052,696,330.32 09/30/2003 6,783,231,062,743.62 09/30/2002 6,228,235,965,597.16 09/30/2001 5,807,463,412,200.06 09/30/2000 5,674,178,209,886.86 We could use the 2000 fiscal year end and start Bush with $5.7T and ending with $10.1T. Now Obama is at $14.5T after only 2.5 years. Let's see that is Bush at $4.4T in 8 years and Obama at $4.4T in less than 3. Got it. Thanks. Hmmmm... You brought Clinton into the discussion, but suddenly you don't want to include him anymore... What nmakes you think that? I also included his last fiscal year budget.....simply because during Clinton is where some of the seeds of our current predicament were sown. Your tendency was to place ALL the blame on Bush..... -- RD (The Sandman) Thought for the day....... Handle every stressful situation like a dog would. If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away. |
Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
RD Sandman wrote:
m II wrote in : RD Sandman wrote: Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama need s to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross posting is getting really irritating. I don't crosspost to anyone although when I respond to a post that has been crossposted, I don't know what newsgroup the person I am responding is in......ergo, I don't change those attributes. Thank you. You are welcome...... mike BTW, some of these PGP signatures get a little irritating with the bandwidth they eat up. Not asking you to delete it, just letting you know that you also do things that irritate other people. Ciao...... I added rec.radio.shortwave just so that would know. :) --------------enigC502C18B0EEF7342C12F4890 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOMZfpAAoJECGtZwCbtgwXcPsIAIPXwxEI TdWFA6P4l65vAZQ2 kogeenpL96VVevVN7PtmH8Smdj8q6Y1jRLrjzENhfr8Z/g2iW69ETbfg60FvN5bE 564DuTARAXDxMGrswRRkKcHDALCkvetzq9l7lG2D3OQW9KWV 34jDy1BC8MOPw9Q1 ySrIXgscZiJ1yosuomhNfy+8aouShfxmQoKYm0kfBlFSBM5B mxViji2iAHpQ9tiL 43Y8Bfw3AwcShPzp9/JGVkOiJJKcohVvjbTsjBhFrzvl1usFY+qOI44++gr9AaWj YhYzg/VnoAe077UBsatgsXr96huHGTHcqiVD8xGeenWhHY47b8L3lbEw X+/iTqs= =53XR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC502C18B0EEF7342C12F4890-- |
Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
Saul Zonana wrote in
: RD Sandman wrote: m II wrote in : RD Sandman wrote: Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama need s to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross posting is getting really irritating. I don't crosspost to anyone although when I respond to a post that has been crossposted, I don't know what newsgroup the person I am responding is in......ergo, I don't change those attributes. Thank you. You are welcome...... mike BTW, some of these PGP signatures get a little irritating with the bandwidth they eat up. Not asking you to delete it, just letting you know that you also do things that irritate other people. Ciao...... I added rec.radio.shortwave just so that would know. :) I, personally, don't care. I simply respond to a post leaving those attributes intact. ;) -- RD (The Sandman) Thought for the day....... Handle every stressful situation like a dog would. If you can't eat it or hump it....**** on it and walk away. |
Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
RD Sandman wrote:
Saul Zonana wrote in : RD Sandman wrote: m II wrote in : RD Sandman wrote: Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama need s to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross posting is getting really irritating. I don't crosspost to anyone although when I respond to a post that has been crossposted, I don't know what newsgroup the person I am responding is in......ergo, I don't change those attributes. Thank you. You are welcome...... mike BTW, some of these PGP signatures get a little irritating with the bandwidth they eat up. Not asking you to delete it, just letting you know that you also do things that irritate other people. Ciao...... I added rec.radio.shortwave just so that they would know. :) I, personally, don't care. I simply respond to a post leaving those attributes intact. ;) Yer a good man, Charlie Brown. |
Cross posting is just plain stupid. Stop it.
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:09:50 -0600, m II wrote:
RD Sandman wrote: Yes, I believe those things. I also believe that, sometime, Obama needs to stand up and be counted rather than to continue to blame things on Bush. Not to be too pushy, but could all you geniuses remove rec.radio.shortwave from your posting list? the unwanted cross posting is getting really irritating. Thank you. The objective of maniacal crossposting/OT is to annoy. Imagine those lives and have pity. ----- - gpsman |
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