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On 9/25/2011 5:46 AM, dave wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:32:28 -0700, John Smith wrote: You have this correct ... it would be just as valid to claim this is just the end of the last ice age, as opposed to this being a "human caused global warming." You don't believe the physical evidence; the ice cores; Moana Loa Observatory? There has not been this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere for at least 600,000 years. That is a bunch of ice ages. Since 1800 the atmospheric CO2 has skyrocketed, along with the amount of solid combustion artifacts found in sediment and tree rings, that point to industrial processes and deforestation as the most likely culprits. What do you have that refutes this, logically, in an obvious manner we can all understand? Please note the largest climate cycle is around 100,000 years, so we have gone through several complete astronomical cycles and still today's climate and atmosphere are unique to history. Yes, I do believe the last ice age is still ending, that in the past, when the earth was devoid of manmade chemicals, pollution and toxins, Co2 levels dwarfed present levels, lush tropical jungles existed, the earth was much, much warmer ... I believe idiots, such as yourself, might, and continue to, choose some period in a diminishing ice age and call it "normal", or attempt to establish those parameters as an ideal, as a "ruler" to measure from ... and, pot probably helps (or, other drugs too.) I also believe taxing won't do a thing ... but I see idiots who do. I also believe that drug use, or just your limited mental resources, make you victim of your own folly and the scams put forth by evil people: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/sc...h/25atlas.html There is an example of one fraud that is being forced to correct its' diabolically evil and fraudulent information, and this: "“We use data supplied by the U.S. Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo.,” she went on. “Our data shows that it has reduced by 15 percent. That’s categorical.” Points out the criminal conspiracy which our criminal public servants are involved in. But, frequently, real data just seems to disappear in a puff of smoke, and especially puffs of marijuana smoke by drug users ... Regards, JS |
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Yesterday, I read about that Urbee printed car, 8 horsepower 1 cylinder
engine, 70 miles per hour, and the Ford electric bicycle.When I was at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963 I bought a 1957 BMW Isetta car from an Air Force Officer.The car had a 1 cylinder air cooled engine, about 7 or 8 horsepower, top speed about 45 miles per hour. When I go shopping nowadays I stay on the slowpoke back roads, driving 35 or 40 or 45 miles per hour is more than fast enough for me.I am always ahead of the people behind me. cuhulin |
Al Gore - BBC
On 9/25/2011 8:06 AM, J R wrote:
Yesterday, I read about that Urbee printed car, 8 horsepower 1 cylinder engine, 70 miles per hour, and the Ford electric bicycle.When I was at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963 I bought a 1957 BMW Isetta car from an Air Force Officer.The car had a 1 cylinder air cooled engine, about 7 or 8 horsepower, top speed about 45 miles per hour. When I go shopping nowadays I stay on the slowpoke back roads, driving 35 or 40 or 45 miles per hour is more than fast enough for me.I am always ahead of the people behind me. cuhulin Age has taught me a new and great respect for speed ... I now find the speed limits on roads to be highly acceptable ... I know what you mean. I still can close my eyes and feel like I am 21, but the mirror and my age are strong reminders that this is incorrect ... I have watched others with no seeming knowledge of how age is affecting them make stupid and insane over estimates of their abilities ... I hope I can do better ... but hey, it ain't a perfect world ... Regards, JS |
Al Gore - BBC
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:01:53 -0700, John Smith
wrote: Yes, I do believe the last ice age is still ending, that in the past, when the earth was devoid of manmade chemicals, pollution and toxins, Co2 levels dwarfed present levels, lush tropical jungles existed, the earth was much, much warmer ... I believe idiots, such as yourself, might, and continue to, choose some period in a diminishing ice age and call it "normal", or attempt to establish those parameters as an ideal, as a "ruler" to measure from ... and, pot probably helps (or, other drugs too.) "Normal" and "natural" are overrated. If floods and drought and war and crime are normal, does that mean we should just let them be? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |
Al Gore - BBC
dave wrote in
m: On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:09:26 -0700, John Smith wrote: “Earth was just fine in those times,” Happer added. :The oceans were fine, plants grew, animals grew fine. So it’s baffling to me that we�re so frightened of getting nowhere close to where we started,” Happer explained. Happer also noted that “the number of [skeptical scientists] with the courage to speak out is growing” and he warned “children should not be force-fed propaganda, masquerading as science.” Our agriculture is tweaked for a twentieth century climate. Crops are failing globally. People are dying. More CO2 doesn't mean more crops, it means more fires and smoke and less vegetation. Yeah, every grocery store in my area within driving distance has no fresh fruit or vegetables. It's terrible. -- Words of wisdom What does not kill you... probably didn't cause enough tissue damage. |
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On 9/25/2011 8:27 AM, Howard Brazee wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:01:53 -0700, John wrote: Yes, I do believe the last ice age is still ending, that in the past, when the earth was devoid of manmade chemicals, pollution and toxins, Co2 levels dwarfed present levels, lush tropical jungles existed, the earth was much, much warmer ... I believe idiots, such as yourself, might, and continue to, choose some period in a diminishing ice age and call it "normal", or attempt to establish those parameters as an ideal, as a "ruler" to measure from ... and, pot probably helps (or, other drugs too.) "Normal" and "natural" are overrated. If floods and drought and war and crime are normal, does that mean we should just let them be? Gesus, don't let the morons know you have a brain, in a world of the brainless, your life is in great danger! SHHHHHHHHSH! chuckle Regards, JS |
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On 9/25/2011 10:28 AM, Gray Guest wrote:
wrote in news:A8CdnTgs8dMov- : On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:32:28 -0700, John Smith wrote: You have this correct ... it would be just as valid to claim this is just the end of the last ice age, as opposed to this being a "human caused global warming." You don't believe the physical evidence; the ice cores; Moana Loa Observatory? There has not been this much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere for at least 600,000 years. That is a bunch of ice ages. Since 1800 the atmospheric CO2 has skyrocketed, along with the amount of solid combustion artifacts found in sediment and tree rings, that point to industrial processes and deforestation as the most likely culprits. What do you have that refutes this, logically, in an obvious manner we can all understand? Please note the largest climate cycle is around 100,000 years, so we have gone through several complete astronomical cycles and still today's climate and atmosphere are unique to history. So stop exhaling hypocrite. Personally, I favor the periods of increased warmth, sunlight, Co2, etc. .... luxuriant plant growth for growing crops year 'round, abundant and diverse life forms, etc. Bring it on! Regards, JS |
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