On 9/24/2011 9:24 AM, dave wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:09:26 -0700, John Smith wrote:


“Earth was just fine in those times,� Happer added. :The oceans were
fine, plants grew, animals grew fine. So it’s baffling to me that we�re
so frightened of getting nowhere close to where we started,� Happer
explained. Happer also noted that “the number of [skeptical scientists]
with the courage to speak out is growing� and he warned “children should
not be force-fed propaganda, masquerading as science.�

Our agriculture is tweaked for a twentieth century climate. Crops are
failing globally. People are dying. More CO2 doesn't mean more crops, it
means more fires and smoke and less vegetation.

Yeah, but Co2 and "global warming" has nothing to do with it, slash and
burn on rainforests, over farming of the land without replenishing the
necessary nutrients, lack of genetic diversity in the plantings, over
use of pesticides with the accompanying increase in tolerance by "the
bugs", over use of herbicides, lack of clean and ample water supplies,
etc. are what we are looking at ... truth is, with ample water and
nutrients, the sands of the desert would be abundant producers of food ...

Already in the central valley of California, over farming and lack of
care to the land has found the ground becoming unsuitable to crops, so
then trees are planted, the ground further degrades and finally ends up
in the production of grapes ... Co2 and global warming have simply
played no part what-so-ever in this grim tale of rape of the land ...
greed, corruption, ignorance, laziness, etc. ... your standard culprits ...

Regards,
JS