"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:00:47 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Like I say, outside of academia, I just don't see that many MACs

I don't see what academia use, I don't see what most companies use.
But I do see what people have in coffee houses - and there are lots of
Macs there.

That's about where you're going to find them since 3/4 of Macs being sold
are the laptops. The Mac desktop market keeps shrinking.

On 10/14/11 6:35 PM, Scout wrote:


"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any
relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him (is
partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a PC ...
and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts them together
... unless the workers have to bring their own! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out of
the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is
going to follow. No profits will do that.

No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide
computers for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money doing so.

No, in fact, IBM does not make any personal computers. They do provide
Lenovo branded computers.

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/us/en/pcannouncement/


The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name brand
just isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own inferior
hardware.

You don't need to tell me how competitive it is, I was in the biz for
over 20 years.

Your statement would ring truer if Apple wasn't able to sell upscale
computers at premium prices. Hell, they sell everything at premium
prices and make a hell of a big profit margin on all of it.



--
Lloyd

On 10/14/11 6:39 PM, Scout wrote:


"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:00:47 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Like I say, outside of academia, I just don't see that many MACs

I don't see what academia use, I don't see what most companies use.
But I do see what people have in coffee houses - and there are lots of
Macs there.

That's about where you're going to find them since 3/4 of Macs being
sold are the laptops. The Mac desktop market keeps shrinking.


No, their desktop market is growing, just not as fast as their laptop
market.

--
Lloyd

Seems like the stores and banks around here that I go to use Dell
computers.
cuhulin

"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/14/11 6:39 PM, Scout wrote:


"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:00:47 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Like I say, outside of academia, I just don't see that many MACs

I don't see what academia use, I don't see what most companies use.
But I do see what people have in coffee houses - and there are lots of
Macs there.

That's about where you're going to find them since 3/4 of Macs being
sold are the laptops. The Mac desktop market keeps shrinking.


No, their desktop market is growing, just not as fast as their laptop
market.

Sorry, they are selling more desktops because of an expanding market, but
their share in that expanding market is decreasing.

The only place that Macs are making gains in their market share is in the
laptop arena.

"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/14/11 6:35 PM, Scout wrote:


"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:
Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any
relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him (is
partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a PC ...
and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts them
together
... unless the workers have to bring their own! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. But keep in mind, IBM got out of
the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is
going to follow. No profits will do that.

No, IBM got out of the RETAIL computer market. They still provide
computers for the BUSINESS market, and make quite a bit of money doing
so.

No, in fact, IBM does not make any personal computers. They do provide
Lenovo branded computers.

http://www.ibm.com/ibm/us/en/pcannouncement/

Hate tell you this....but nothing you said contradicts me in the least.

The problem is the PC market is very competitive and being a name brand
just isn't enough that people will pay lots more money to own inferior
hardware.

You don't need to tell me how competitive it is, I was in the biz for over
20 years.

Your statement would ring truer if Apple wasn't able to sell upscale
computers at premium prices. Hell, they sell everything at premium prices
and make a hell of a big profit margin on all of it.

Yep, it's a small nitch market among a following of people sold on the
brand.

That doesn't happen in the PC market because the O/S isn't brand specific.

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...covery+Channel

A few minutes ago I saw a commercial about that on the Discovery
channel.
Premiers on Sunday.
cuhulin

On Oct 14, 2:33*pm, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:
On 10/14/11 4:24 PM, John Smith wrote:

Your text, once again, demonstrates the "status symbol" of the MAC:

" You must go to some really poor spots!!

* Most places I've been all have brand name boxes there."

Indeed, that is the only part of your whole post which has any relevancy!

I just went with a relative to social security, while assisting him (is
partially blind), I noticed every computer at every desk was a PC ...
and mostly custom built ... apparently their IT dept. puts them together
... unless the workers have to bring their own! *ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

I can tell you that the local SS offices sure don't have no brand
computers in their offices.

But whatever the market share of what is, the profits are not with
wintel or Linux desktop boxes. *No matter who or how they are built,
tiny profits seem to be the norm. *Except at Apple...

Now we can argue that all you want. *But keep in mind, IBM got out of
the wintel desktop/laptop market years ago, and it looks like HP is
going to follow. *No profits will do that.

--
Lloyd

IIRC the 'local' US Post Office "PC"s are Dell Boxes.

On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 20:12:02 -0400, "Scout"
wrote:

No, their desktop market is growing, just not as fast as their laptop
market.

Sorry, they are selling more desktops because of an expanding market, but
their share in that expanding market is decreasing.

Other arguments in this thread have been claiming a shrinking desktop
market. Which arguments are correct?

Desktop computers last longer nowadays before becoming obsolete for
most functions. And there are more and better alternatives to
desktop computers than there used to be.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

One reason desktop computers last longer is because they have better
cooling than laptop computers.Heat is not good for electronic
componets.
cuhulin