On 10/15/11 10:37 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/14/2011 4:43 PM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:
On 10/14/11 6:39 PM, Scout wrote:


"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 19:00:47 -0700, John Smith
wrote:

Like I say, outside of academia, I just don't see that many MACs

I don't see what academia use, I don't see what most companies use.
But I do see what people have in coffee houses - and there are lots of
Macs there.

That's about where you're going to find them since 3/4 of Macs being
sold are the laptops. The Mac desktop market keeps shrinking.


No, their desktop market is growing, just not as fast as their laptop
market.


For over 20 years I have been observing, "next year" was going to be the
"year of the mac", nothing has changed in that arena, in a LONG, LONG time!

Regards,
JS

I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider. Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.


--
Lloyd

On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

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I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider. Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their fantasies
.... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

On 10/15/11 10:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

...
I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider. Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their fantasies
... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

In business, the reality is growing your sales and profits. In that, it
has been the year of the Mac for quite awhile now. You are free to talk
about what volumes of sales are out there in wintel/linux world, but
that is being done at pathetic profit levels.

Overall, desktop sales on all platforms is down as more go to laptops.
Primarily because laptops now have enough performance for almost all
applications and the prices are down quite a bit. Heck for all the
bitching about Apple's prices, laptops with similar specifications and
build quality are all pretty much the same in cost.

Apple just doesn't do cheap laptops.



--
Lloyd

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?...ories+in+China

http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=The+World's+best+selling+computers

China, I have been to Chinatown in San Francisco before, in January
1964. on my way to the Land of the Midnight Cong.Hang Kong Vietnam.

I went over to Chinatown,,,,,, Ling Ting Tong,,,,, just sing this
song,,,,,,

China,,,, Chinaaa,,,, China, China Jing Jing Yayyyyy,,,,,,

I went to Cholon (the Chinese section of Saigon) a bunch of times too.
I am a World Citizen!
cuhulin

"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/15/11 10:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

...
I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider. Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their fantasies
... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

In business, the reality is growing your sales and profits. In that, it
has been the year of the Mac for quite awhile now. You are free to talk
about what volumes of sales are out there in wintel/linux world, but that
is being done at pathetic profit levels.

Overall, desktop sales on all platforms is down as more go to laptops.
Primarily because laptops now have enough performance for almost all
applications and the prices are down quite a bit. Heck for all the
bitching about Apple's prices, laptops with similar specifications and
build quality are all pretty much the same in cost.

Apple just doesn't do cheap laptops.

Which is why Apple sells only a small fraction of the number of laptops
sold. PC dominates over Mac even in the laptop market

On 10/15/11 2:53 PM, Scout wrote:


"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/15/11 10:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

...
I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider. Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their fantasies
... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

In business, the reality is growing your sales and profits. In that,
it has been the year of the Mac for quite awhile now. You are free to
talk about what volumes of sales are out there in wintel/linux world,
but that is being done at pathetic profit levels.

Overall, desktop sales on all platforms is down as more go to laptops.
Primarily because laptops now have enough performance for almost all
applications and the prices are down quite a bit. Heck for all the
bitching about Apple's prices, laptops with similar specifications and
build quality are all pretty much the same in cost.

Apple just doesn't do cheap laptops.

Which is why Apple sells only a small fraction of the number of laptops
sold. PC dominates over Mac even in the laptop market

At such a low profit margin that HP, one of the biggest in the biz is
seriously looking at dumping wintel desktop/laptop production and sales.

Apple has been making all the right moves these days. Good products
that are very popular at a price point that makes them great profits. A
success by any measure except for the 'market share at any cost' types.

They literaly own the tablet market at the moment. But will they own
the desktop/laptop market? Nope, there will always be a market for a
low priced product.



--
Lloyd

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"Scout" wrote:

"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/15/11 10:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

...
I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider. Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their fantasies
... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

In business, the reality is growing your sales and profits. In that, it
has been the year of the Mac for quite awhile now. You are free to talk
about what volumes of sales are out there in wintel/linux world, but that
is being done at pathetic profit levels.

Overall, desktop sales on all platforms is down as more go to laptops.
Primarily because laptops now have enough performance for almost all
applications and the prices are down quite a bit. Heck for all the
bitching about Apple's prices, laptops with similar specifications and
build quality are all pretty much the same in cost.

Apple just doesn't do cheap laptops.

Which is why Apple sells only a small fraction of the number of laptops
sold. PC dominates over Mac even in the laptop market


But Apple makes most of the profit...

:-)

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote:

"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/15/11 10:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

...
I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider.
Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the
world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their
fantasies
... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

In business, the reality is growing your sales and profits. In that,
it
has been the year of the Mac for quite awhile now. You are free to
talk
about what volumes of sales are out there in wintel/linux world, but
that
is being done at pathetic profit levels.

Overall, desktop sales on all platforms is down as more go to laptops.
Primarily because laptops now have enough performance for almost all
applications and the prices are down quite a bit. Heck for all the
bitching about Apple's prices, laptops with similar specifications and
build quality are all pretty much the same in cost.

Apple just doesn't do cheap laptops.

Which is why Apple sells only a small fraction of the number of laptops
sold. PC dominates over Mac even in the laptop market


But Apple makes most of the profit...

:-)

Shows they overprice their goods....

Not exactly a positive thing from the view point of anyone looking at buying
their products.

"Scout" wrote in
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"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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"Scout" wrote:

"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/15/11 10:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

...
I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of
the mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech
provider. Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale
tech market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the
world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their
fantasies
... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

In business, the reality is growing your sales and profits. In
that, it
has been the year of the Mac for quite awhile now. You are free
to talk
about what volumes of sales are out there in wintel/linux world,
but that
is being done at pathetic profit levels.

Overall, desktop sales on all platforms is down as more go to
laptops. Primarily because laptops now have enough performance for
almost all applications and the prices are down quite a bit. Heck
for all the bitching about Apple's prices, laptops with similar
specifications and build quality are all pretty much the same in
cost.

Apple just doesn't do cheap laptops.

Which is why Apple sells only a small fraction of the number of
laptops sold. PC dominates over Mac even in the laptop market


But Apple makes most of the profit...

:-)

Shows they overprice their goods....

Not exactly a positive thing from the view point of anyone looking at
buying their products.




But an excellent one from theirs as long as it doesn't drastically reduce
sales. With the charisma Apple seems to hold, I don't think that is much
of a problem. It is like the folks who love to own Cadillacs. It
doesn't cost much more to produce a Cadillac than it does Chevy, but
compare the price and the cachet.

--
Sleep well tonight.........RD (The Sandman)

Witnessing Republicans and Democrats bickering over
the National Debt is like watching two drunks argue
over a bar bill on the Titanic.....

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"Scout" wrote:

"Alan Baker" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Scout" wrote:

"Lloyd E Parsons" wrote in message
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On 10/15/11 10:46 AM, John Smith wrote:
On 10/15/2011 8:41 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

...
I don't think you or I will live long enough to see the 'year of the
mac' if that is defined as Apple being the dominant tech provider.
Not
going to happen.

But the 'year of the Mac' has already happened in the upscale tech
market with consumers with a few bucks.



Yes, I am sure many are heroes in their own mind, have saved the
world,
dominate the markets ... and it would be evil to destroy their
fantasies
... roflol

Still, one must keep a foot in reality ...

Regards,
JS

In business, the reality is growing your sales and profits. In that,
it
has been the year of the Mac for quite awhile now. You are free to
talk
about what volumes of sales are out there in wintel/linux world, but
that
is being done at pathetic profit levels.

Overall, desktop sales on all platforms is down as more go to laptops.
Primarily because laptops now have enough performance for almost all
applications and the prices are down quite a bit. Heck for all the
bitching about Apple's prices, laptops with similar specifications and
build quality are all pretty much the same in cost.

Apple just doesn't do cheap laptops.

Which is why Apple sells only a small fraction of the number of laptops
sold. PC dominates over Mac even in the laptop market


But Apple makes most of the profit...

:-)

Shows they overprice their goods....

Since more and more people are buying them, how does it show that?


Not exactly a positive thing from the view point of anyone looking at buying
their products.

I think people look at what they actually get--a computer that works
better for them--and then they look at what the price represents in
terms of cost per day and they realize that the differential is well
worth it.

:-)

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg