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On 11/16/11 21:18 , flipper wrote:
Who was it, what were the questions, and what did they say? And why is
this so 'secret' that you never give any specifics?


When I get permission from the source, I'll pass it along.

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On 11/16/2011 7:24 PM, flipper wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:59:32 -0500, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:

On 11/16/2011 4:45 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
[...]

But the language of the bill is sufficiently broad to allow
interpretation beyond commercial interests alone, to include persons
conducting flea markets, garage sales, or one on one transactions.
To the degree that it's had a chilling effect on flea markets on the
local level, in areas where economic distress has made flea markets
a significant segment of the shopping culture.





What we need is a whole new culture of privacy.

A climate in which not only can corporations, banks, and governments
not restrict or tax or control our private transactions in any way
-- but a climate in which it is universally acknowledged that they
also have _no_ right to even _know_ what those transactions are.

They are here to serve us, not the other way round. They are the
peons, and we are the rulers -- not the reverse. They have no right
to know ANYTHING about our transactions.

We, on the other hand, have the absolute right to know everything
about theirs, and restrict them if we so choose.

A whole new mindset, of unalterable and immovable steel and will, is
needed.

I doubt, however, that a generation of cowed and bowed dependents
and yes-men can produce such a thing.



With every good wish,



Kevin Alfred Strom.

You might have a different opinion if you were burglarized and all
your stuff was sold by 'private transactions' through a second hand
dealer front man.

Btw, the information only becomes available to the police in the event
of a criminal investigation and it's only that transaction. There is
no routine 'reporting to the government'.

Isn't that the reason we initially hired "cops" for? I mean, I realize
they are no longer doing a job for the people, the citizens -- and are
mostly revenue generators for the town, city, county, state, feds, etc.
But, really, watching every dollar trade hands is NOT what we have
public servants and authorities for, we don't have them to "punish" us
.... we simply need to remind them to do the original job they were
created for and the things you mention are already taken care of ...
let's just get the public servants and cops to do the job for the people.

Regards,
JS

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On 11/16/2011 7:25 PM, flipper wrote:
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:50:08 -0800, John
wrote:

On 11/16/2011 4:30 PM, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 11/16/11 18:14 , flipper wrote:

virtually expands
the limits of interpretation to include flea markets, garage sales,
and one on one cash transactions.

You're way late to the game, then, because there's nothing in the bill
that "expands the limits" to "flea markets, garage sales, and one on
one cash transactions" more than the already existing law.


Your selective attention is interesting.

It's the broadness of the language that expands the limits. Because the
broadness of the language does nothing to limit the definition of the
terms. And, one more time, the legislators voting for the bill
specifically intend for the law to include garage sales, flea markets
and one on one cash transactions. This by their own admission.



As I said, one of the legislators voting for the bill. I'm in
media. I frequently interview legislators about their intents, and
their actions. I've been attempting to get the Attorney General on
the line to explain how this law affects street level commerce.

No offense intended but none of that means anything. What legislator,
what did he say, and why would I presume he knows better than the
author? And why should I take 'your word' or 'opinions'?

Well, that IS the crux of the argument, then, isn't it.



Louisiana has been attempting to get control of cash transactions
since I lived there in the 80's.

What in the world does that mean? Just 'who' is "Louisiana?" Maybe
they shouldn't vote for "Louisiana" next time if Mr. "Louisiana"
supports wacky things.

Wow. Obfuscation 101. This discussion has suddenly become a waste of
bandwidth.

Bottom line...I've lived there, you haven't. I deal with the legislators
in Louisiana every week, you don't.

You're entitled to your skepticism. Enjoy it.

Have a good evening.


Only an imbecile would support the law in the first place ... why screw
around with imbeciles?

He just needs to be told what an ignorant fooker he is and blown off ...
that is the problem today, people get confused and think they should be
"nice" to nuts, nuts need to be protected from hurting themselves and
those around them ...

Regards,
JS


I take it your definition of "imbecile" is "not a thief."

Intelligent thiefs are never caught, so difficult to analyze them ... or
else they are criminal public servants and all have get-out-of-jail-free
cards provided by their rich corporate, bankster, wall street puppet
masters ... so, you have a point, they are just well protected imbeciles ...

Regards,
JS

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Michael Black wrote:


Of course, towards the end of the life of tubes, one could get some that
ran off 12v, intended for use in car radios. Not so useful now since they
were produced in a limited time span as transistors were taking over, so
quantity is relatively limited.

Even rarer were tubes that drew almost no current. They used "cold cathodes"
so they did not need expensive (in terms of current and heat dissipation)
filaments and had low plate voltages.

They came out when transistors where just starting out, but rise of
transisitors was so rapid and transistors were so cheap in comparison, that
it was simpler and cheaper to build a 7 or 12 transistor radio than a 5 tube
cold cathode one.

They showed some promise in the missle and space exploration systems of the
time, because transistors could not stand the temperature extremes or
cosmic radiation they would be exposed to. That also did not last long,
as improved "space grade" transistors came out.

What really killed them was NASA's adoption of the new integrated circuits
(which actually pre-date the "space race").

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM
My high blood pressure medicine reduces my midichlorian count. :-(

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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:34:03 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Michael Black wrote:


Of course, towards the end of the life of tubes, one could get some
that ran off 12v, intended for use in car radios. Not so useful now
since they were produced in a limited time span as transistors were
taking over, so quantity is relatively limited.

Even rarer were tubes that drew almost no current. They used "cold
cathodes" so they did not need expensive (in terms of current and heat
dissipation) filaments and had low plate voltages.

They came out when transistors where just starting out, but rise of
transisitors was so rapid and transistors were so cheap in comparison,
that it was simpler and cheaper to build a 7 or 12 transistor radio than
a 5 tube cold cathode one.

They showed some promise in the missle and space exploration systems of
the time, because transistors could not stand the temperature extremes
or cosmic radiation they would be exposed to. That also did not last
long, as improved "space grade" transistors came out.

What really killed them was NASA's adoption of the new integrated
circuits (which actually pre-date the "space race").

Cold Cathode tubes were voltage regulators, displays, etc. I have never
seen a cold cathode amplifier.

Between miniature tubes and solid state there were Compactrons, which
were several tube stages in a single envelope.

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On 11/16/2011 11:34 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Michael Black wrote:


Of course, towards the end of the life of tubes, one could get some that
ran off 12v, intended for use in car radios. Not so useful now since they
were produced in a limited time span as transistors were taking over, so
quantity is relatively limited.

Even rarer were tubes that drew almost no current. They used "cold cathodes"
so they did not need expensive (in terms of current and heat dissipation)
filaments and had low plate voltages.

They came out when transistors where just starting out, but rise of
transisitors was so rapid and transistors were so cheap in comparison, that
it was simpler and cheaper to build a 7 or 12 transistor radio than a 5 tube
cold cathode one.

They showed some promise in the missle and space exploration systems of the
time, because transistors could not stand the temperature extremes or
cosmic radiation they would be exposed to. That also did not last long,
as improved "space grade" transistors came out.

What really killed them was NASA's adoption of the new integrated circuits
(which actually pre-date the "space race").

Geoff.



Yes, you hit on the real death of tubes right there, the IC or
integrated transistors and our ability to place umpteen millions on a
single chip ...

Regards,
JS

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On 11/17/2011 5:18 AM, dave wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:34:03 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Michael Black wrote:


Of course, towards the end of the life of tubes, one could get some
that ran off 12v, intended for use in car radios. Not so useful now
since they were produced in a limited time span as transistors were
taking over, so quantity is relatively limited.

Even rarer were tubes that drew almost no current. They used "cold
cathodes" so they did not need expensive (in terms of current and heat
dissipation) filaments and had low plate voltages.

They came out when transistors where just starting out, but rise of
transisitors was so rapid and transistors were so cheap in comparison,
that it was simpler and cheaper to build a 7 or 12 transistor radio than
a 5 tube cold cathode one.

They showed some promise in the missle and space exploration systems of
the time, because transistors could not stand the temperature extremes
or cosmic radiation they would be exposed to. That also did not last
long, as improved "space grade" transistors came out.

What really killed them was NASA's adoption of the new integrated
circuits (which actually pre-date the "space race").

Cold Cathode tubes were voltage regulators, displays, etc. I have never
seen a cold cathode amplifier.

Between miniature tubes and solid state there were Compactrons, which
were several tube stages in a single envelope.

There were tubes which contained a bit of thorium and required minimal
heater current. The slight radioactivity is a no go, as well as the
potential pollution to the environment ...

Regards,
JS

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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:38:50 +0000 (UTC), Peter Irwin
wrote:

In rec.audio.tubes dave wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:34:03 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

They showed some promise in the missile and space exploration systems of
the time, because transistors could not stand the temperature extremes
or cosmic radiation they would be exposed to. That also did not last
long, as improved "space grade" transistors came out.


Cold Cathode tubes were voltage regulators, displays, etc. I have never
seen a cold cathode amplifier.

I think the tubes being referred to are field emission triodes and
various microwave tubes. You can certainly make a linear amplifier
with field emission devices.


Valves in space have probably finally met their match with Gallium
Nitride. It is pretty radiation-hard, and capable of valve-type power
outputs.

d

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On 11/17/2011 2:23 AM, John Smith wrote:
[...]

You might have a different opinion if you were burglarized and all
your stuff was sold by 'private transactions' through a second hand
dealer front man.

Btw, the information only becomes available to the police in the
event
of a criminal investigation and it's only that transaction. There is
no routine 'reporting to the government'.

Isn't that the reason we initially hired "cops" for? I mean, I
realize they are no longer doing a job for the people, the citizens
-- and are mostly revenue generators for the town, city, county,
state, feds, etc. But, really, watching every dollar trade hands is
NOT what we have public servants and authorities for, we don't have
them to "punish" us ... we simply need to remind them to do the
original job they were created for and the things you mention are
already taken care of ... let's just get the public servants and
cops to do the job for the people.

Regards,
JS




I agree, John. The purpose of the Constitution is not to help the
police.

If limiting government knowledge of my private transactions to zero
-- except in the case of a properly obtained and strictly limited
warrant -- slows down the police a little bit, well, that's just the
way it will have to be. Tough luck if a few crimes aren't solved as
fast. The greatest crime of all, the theft of our freedom, would
stop -- and that's _far_ more important than getting your BMW back,
or reducing the goddamned deficit.

Of course, restoring our privacy would also entail an instant and
total end to the income tax, since no entity would have any right
whatsoever to know what your income even was, much less tax it.
Yessiree Bob!


Esse quam videre,



Kevin Alfred Strom.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

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On 11/17/2011 10:05 AM, Kevin Alfred Strom wrote:
On 11/17/2011 2:23 AM, John Smith wrote:
[...]

You might have a different opinion if you were burglarized and all
your stuff was sold by 'private transactions' through a second hand
dealer front man.

Btw, the information only becomes available to the police in the
event
of a criminal investigation and it's only that transaction. There is
no routine 'reporting to the government'.

Isn't that the reason we initially hired "cops" for? I mean, I
realize they are no longer doing a job for the people, the citizens
-- and are mostly revenue generators for the town, city, county,
state, feds, etc. But, really, watching every dollar trade hands is
NOT what we have public servants and authorities for, we don't have
them to "punish" us ... we simply need to remind them to do the
original job they were created for and the things you mention are
already taken care of ... let's just get the public servants and
cops to do the job for the people.

Regards,
JS




I agree, John. The purpose of the Constitution is not to help the police.

If limiting government knowledge of my private transactions to zero --
except in the case of a properly obtained and strictly limited warrant
-- slows down the police a little bit, well, that's just the way it will
have to be. Tough luck if a few crimes aren't solved as fast. The
greatest crime of all, the theft of our freedom, would stop -- and
that's _far_ more important than getting your BMW back, or reducing the
goddamned deficit.

Of course, restoring our privacy would also entail an instant and total
end to the income tax, since no entity would have any right whatsoever
to know what your income even was, much less tax it. Yessiree Bob!


Esse quam videre,



Kevin Alfred Strom.

Quite so. And, take the sports out of the schools, the art out of
public projects, the perks out of public servant benefits, the special
interest grants, the gay grants, the womens' grants, etc, etc, etc.

Schools are for learning, public buildings are for absolute necessary
business of the people, etc.

I am for the govt getting a flat 10% of your net earnings and that is it
.... whatever we can't afford on that, too bad. But, one thing we need
to do is bring all the public servant and govt workers, be that fed,
state, county, city or town, pay into correct equivalency to the private
sector pay ... and cut a million other unnecessary govt expenditures and
funding ... there will be plenty of money, long as they support
Americans with jobs and an acceptable standard of living ... as it
stands now, with income tax, property tax, sales tax, fees and fines,
hidden taxes, gasoline taxes, etc., somewhere between 50% and 60% of
your income is going to the government in taxes -- some of these taxes
are just known by other names.

Take a hard look at how they have bent and warped the Constitution, laws
and systems, we are now simply paying them for the privilege of being
slaves to them.

It would be nice to have a nice "pirate SW station" discussing some of
this ... grin

Regards,
JS