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On 12/18/2011 1:30 PM, Scout wrote:
"John Smith" wrote in message ... On 12/18/2011 4:43 AM, dave wrote: On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:26:01 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:03:26 -0800, John wrote: First, before anything, we need to get rid of the crooks, simply naming, then renaming, then defining, etc., etc., their crimes and treason is how we got here and what is keeping us here, it is time to get them into prison cells or onto the gallows and honest men in the offices -- only then will we begin to move forward. Trouble is, it's the people who go against the Constitution, and who exempt themselves from the laws everybody else has to follow who define "treason". Not treason, plain old bribery and corruption. You have to have a War for real treason, and we ain't had a legal state of War since late August, 1945. Too much dope, again, 2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family -- source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treason Sorry to bust your bubble, but in American the crime of treason is not defined by merriam-webster but by The Constitution of the United States of America, specifically Article 3, Section 3. http://www.constitution.org/cmt/high_crimes.htm "The question of impeachment turns on the meaning of the phrase in the Constitution at Art. II Sec. 4, "Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors". I have carefully researched the origin of the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" and its meaning to the Framers, and found that the key to understanding it is the word "high". It does not mean "more serious". It refers to those punishable offenses that only apply to high persons, that is, to public officials, those who, because of their official status, are under special obligations that ordinary persons are not under, and which could not be meaningfully applied or justly punished if committed by ordinary persons." Get real ... Regards, JS |
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