d. Peter, thanks for the input. I am web searching info on the older satellits also.

arthr-I'd read years ago about Grundig from Germany, but did not remember Portugal also.

Charly, I did head over to that blog, he's got a nice blog there.
I do go to eham's site, check their reviews, etc.

Thanks again, will post when I get something. My Kaito 1103 is a pretty good unit, I want to get something with a bit more control without spending a small fortune. I -sometimes- use the accessory "long wire" antenna that comes with it, and at times I use the loc/dist switch to cut back on overload. Allot of the time-probably at night-the antenna isn't needed.

I don't use an outside antenna-I still have a pole I could use from my old tv antenna (no longer have) but am open to trying that eventually if needed.. I have trees around my house-30, 40+ feet high, part of my roof is metal-so will see how things go when I take the plunge...

Thanks again...