Hils wrote:

On 2013-08-06 19:41, dave wrote:
On 08/06/2013 10:54 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:15:18 AM UTC-5, dave wrote:
The bottoms of the whipping posts are still in the sidewalk. Also the
home of the Bill of Rights. Ironic that the banks that really destroyed
America would be a half mile from Ground Zero.

So near, and yet, so far...

Where ya at Hils? Over there in U. K. do they still ground the
positive automobile battery cable to ground? Most people don't know it
but positive is really negative. I have known that since the 1940s.

They have been teaching this for a long time. Positive means an excess
of holes.

I'm in the county of Somerset, a long way from Blackburn, Lancashire. :-)

I'm in the county of Ottawa, also a long way from Blackburn, Lancashire. :-)

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:38:56 PM UTC-4, Hils wrote:
On 2013-08-06 19:41, dave wrote:

On 08/06/2013 10:54 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:15:18 AM UTC-5, dave wrote:

The bottoms of the whipping posts are still in the sidewalk. Also the

home of the Bill of Rights. Ironic that the banks that really destroyed

America would be a half mile from Ground Zero.



So near, and yet, so far...



Where ya at Hils? Over there in U. K. do they still ground the

positive automobile battery cable to ground? Most people don't know it

but positive is really negative. I have known that since the 1940s.



They have been teaching this for a long time. Positive means an excess

of holes.



I'm in the county of Somerset, a long way from Blackburn, Lancashire. :-)

Is this where the Stanton Drew monolith circles are ?

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:51:08 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:38:56 PM UTC-4, Hils wrote:

On 2013-08-06 19:41, dave wrote:



On 08/06/2013 10:54 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:



On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:15:18 AM UTC-5, dave wrote:



The bottoms of the whipping posts are still in the sidewalk. Also the



home of the Bill of Rights. Ironic that the banks that really destroyed



America would be a half mile from Ground Zero.







So near, and yet, so far...







Where ya at Hils? Over there in U. K. do they still ground the



positive automobile battery cable to ground? Most people don't know it



but positive is really negative. I have known that since the 1940s.







They have been teaching this for a long time. Positive means an excess



of holes.







I'm in the county of Somerset, a long way from Blackburn, Lancashire. :-)



Is this where the Stanton Drew monolith circles are ?

A long way from where that married Irish woman lives too, Bognor Regis. I call it Booger Reegiz. About sixty miles South of London, West Sussex County.. Legend of Shelby The Swamp Man on the History channel tonight. Google,,, Legend of Shelby The swamp Man Youtube

"Hils" wrote in message ...

On 2013-08-06 19:41, dave wrote:
On 08/06/2013 10:54 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:15:18 AM UTC-5, dave wrote:
The bottoms of the whipping posts are still in the sidewalk. Also the
home of the Bill of Rights. Ironic that the banks that really destroyed
America would be a half mile from Ground Zero.

So near, and yet, so far...

Where ya at Hils? Over there in U. K. do they still ground the
positive automobile battery cable to ground? Most people don't know it
but positive is really negative. I have known that since the 1940s.

They have been teaching this for a long time. Positive means an excess
of holes.

I'm in the county of Somerset, a long way from Blackburn, Lancashire. :-)


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But, do they REALLY know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall?

On Wed, 7 Aug 2013, Brenda Dyer wrote:



"Hils" wrote in message ...

On 2013-08-06 19:41, dave wrote:
On 08/06/2013 10:54 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:15:18 AM UTC-5, dave wrote:
The bottoms of the whipping posts are still in the sidewalk. Also the
home of the Bill of Rights. Ironic that the banks that really destroyed
America would be a half mile from Ground Zero.

So near, and yet, so far...

Where ya at Hils? Over there in U. K. do they still ground the
positive automobile battery cable to ground? Most people don't know it
but positive is really negative. I have known that since the 1940s.

They have been teaching this for a long time. Positive means an excess
of holes.

I'm in the county of Somerset, a long way from Blackburn, Lancashire. :-)


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But, do they REALLY know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall?

But is it really the ALbert Hall?

There's that famous Bob Dylan "ALbert Hall COncert" but when I bought a
legitimate copy when it was finally issued about fifteen years ago, the
booklet said it wasn't really at the ALbert Hall, but some other venue.

Michael

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 10:26:49 PM UTC-5, Michael Black wrote:
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013, Brenda Dyer wrote:







"Hils" wrote in message ...



On 2013-08-06 19:41, dave wrote:

On 08/06/2013 10:54 AM, DhiaDuit wrote:

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 11:15:18 AM UTC-5, dave wrote:

The bottoms of the whipping posts are still in the sidewalk. Also the

home of the Bill of Rights. Ironic that the banks that really destroyed

America would be a half mile from Ground Zero.



So near, and yet, so far...



Where ya at Hils? Over there in U. K. do they still ground the

positive automobile battery cable to ground? Most people don't know it

but positive is really negative. I have known that since the 1940s.



They have been teaching this for a long time. Positive means an excess

of holes.



I'm in the county of Somerset, a long way from Blackburn, Lancashire. :-)





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But, do they REALLY know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall?



But is it really the ALbert Hall?



There's that famous Bob Dylan "ALbert Hall COncert" but when I bought a

legitimate copy when it was finally issued about fifteen years ago, the

booklet said it wasn't really at the ALbert Hall, but some other venue.



Michael

There is a Somerset County in New Jersey and a Jersey in England.

On 2013-08-04 21:45:44 +0000, Hils said:

On 2013-08-04 20:03, Michael Black wrote:
And like I said, that's some of the hype of the maker movement, more
people can follow instructions, but it doesn't raise them up.

I've been going through old magazines, a local bookstore having found a
stash of them. The skill level to build the projects was much higher
than in "Make", but it was a whole wide field. "Build a two man sub for
about $400" says an article in Popular Science from about 1968. YOu
can't tell me the kids have invented something new when building things
had such a large infrastructure decades ago.

My father had been a mechanical engineer during WW2, and my older
brother's first jobs had been in engineering and later aerospace. My
father started teaching me maths and engineering when I was about four,
but I think he became rather disillusioned when I started school and
they insisted on teaching me their curriculum at their speed. Still,
between them they'd taught me to solder before I left primary school,
and I'd been repairing radio receivers for years before I eventually
got an amateur radio licence.

My uncles seemed to be forever discussing engines and how to get the
best performance from them. My brother bought Practical Wireless and
Practical Electronics, and occasionally Short Wave Magazine and
Wireless World, I remember one PE project that stuck in my mind was a
home-made EEG.

The young people closest to me now have piano lessons, violin lessons,
ballet, yoga, rugby and cricket lessons, but they're learning no
practical skills because their parents (about the same age as me) have
almost none themselves. My mother's sewing machine rarely seemed to
stop working; their mother buys everything off-the-shelf and replaces
rather than repairs. Their father collects electric guitars, but he
pays a technician to modify and repair them and refuses all my attempts
to teach him basic electronics and soldering. When his electronic car
key stopped working recently he paid £200 for a replacement.

People generally have become users not makers. I sometimes feel an anachronism.

Blame EEs and their amazing invention, the SMT component, for reducing
the amount of practical uses for electronics skills. Have you looked
inside a piece of modern electronics? There is almost no ability to
modify or even understand the circuit.

An electronic car key is almost certainly not reproducible in a
practical sense, and recent legislation may even make it illegal to try.

Gen Xers are not the ones who passed these laws.

On 2013-08-05 22:13:25 +0000, dave said:

On 08/05/2013 03:03 PM, DhiaDuit wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2013 4:30:32 PM UTC-5, D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 8/5/13 11:45 , Hils wrote:

On 2013-08-05 16:15, D. Peter Maus wrote:

On 8/5/13 24:37 , wrote:
''Theater'', T'IS.

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_products_page.htm

http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/complete.htm

http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...jameco_page=54


etc. I bet there are way more kits today than there were during the
Eico Heath days. They just aren't for shortwave radios very much,
although the Elecraft radios are the best in the world and totally
suitable for serious SWL.

While the Elecraft radios can and do perform well on shortwave, the
widest crystal filter at 4.2 KHz (on the KX3) is still a bit narrow for
real hi-fi SWL. I say this as a very happy KX3 owner.

It gets the job done, but the Elecraft rigs are really meant for hams
and not SWLs.

On Friday, August 9, 2013 7:48:09 PM UTC-4, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
On 2013-08-05 22:13:25 +0000, dave said:



On 08/05/2013 03:03 PM, DhiaDuit wrote:

On Monday, August 5, 2013 4:30:32 PM UTC-5, D. Peter Maus wrote:

On 8/5/13 11:45 , Hils wrote:



On 2013-08-05 16:15, D. Peter Maus wrote:



On 8/5/13 24:37 , wrote:

''Theater'', T'IS.



http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_products_page.htm



http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/complete.htm



http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...jameco_page=54





etc. I bet there are way more kits today than there were during the

Eico Heath days. They just aren't for shortwave radios very much,

although the Elecraft radios are the best in the world and totally

suitable for serious SWL.



While the Elecraft radios can and do perform well on shortwave, the

widest crystal filter at 4.2 KHz (on the KX3) is still a bit narrow for

real hi-fi SWL. I say this as a very happy KX3 owner.



It gets the job done, but the Elecraft rigs are really meant for hams

and not SWLs.

Just looked at the KX3 schematic. It is a direct conversion receiver. Where is the crystal filter located ?

On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, wrote:

On Friday, August 9, 2013 7:48:09 PM UTC-4, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
On 2013-08-05 22:13:25 +0000, dave said:



On 08/05/2013 03:03 PM, DhiaDuit wrote:

On Monday, August 5, 2013 4:30:32 PM UTC-5, D. Peter Maus wrote:

On 8/5/13 11:45 , Hils wrote:



On 2013-08-05 16:15, D. Peter Maus wrote:



On 8/5/13 24:37 , wrote:

''Theater'', T'IS.



http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_products_page.htm



http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/complete.htm



http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...jameco_page=54





etc. I bet there are way more kits today than there were during the

Eico Heath days. They just aren't for shortwave radios very much,

although the Elecraft radios are the best in the world and totally

suitable for serious SWL.



While the Elecraft radios can and do perform well on shortwave, the

widest crystal filter at 4.2 KHz (on the KX3) is still a bit narrow for

real hi-fi SWL. I say this as a very happy KX3 owner.



It gets the job done, but the Elecraft rigs are really meant for hams

and not SWLs.

Just looked at the KX3 schematic. It is a direct conversion receiver. Where is the crystal filter located ?

Is it one of those new wave radios that do most of the filtering
digitally? Perhaps the mentioned 4.2KHz filter is treated more like a
"roofing filter" to limit bandwidth, but real selectivity comes later. Or
maybe it's all done digitally, and there's no actual crystal filter, in
which case it would mean the radio needs new software for wider bandwidth.

Michael