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[email protected] June 24th 16 08:08 PM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
analogdial: CHU


Yes, I get them at 3330. I will try their other
frequencies also. I use them as a last
resort as I don't know if they are just a
repeater for WWVB/H. Latency, y'know?


I thought about this a couple days ago, and
it gave me some pause: If the noise floor
for world band has gone up so much in the
last 10 years, then why is it only the time
signals that I no longer pull in like I used
to?

[email protected] June 24th 16 08:16 PM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
analogdial: CHU


Yes, I get them at 3330. I will try their other
frequencies also. I use them as a last
resort as I don't know if they are just a
repeater for WWVB/H. Latency, y'know?


I thought about this a couple days ago, and
it gave me some pause: If the noise floor
for world band has gone up so much in the
last 10 years, then why is it only the time
signals that I no longer pull in like I used
to?

[email protected] June 24th 16 08:21 PM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
analogdial: CHU


Yes, I get them at 3330. I will try their other
frequencies also. I use them as a last
resort as I don't know if they are just a
repeater for WWVB/H. Latency, y'know?


I thought about this a couple days ago, and
it gave me some pause: If the noise floor
for world band has gone up so much in the
last 10 years, then why is it only the time
signals that I no longer pull in like I used
to?

[email protected] June 24th 16 08:24 PM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
analogdial: CHU


Yes, I get them at 3330. I will try their other
frequencies also. I use them as a last
resort as I don't know if they are just a
repeater for WWVB/H. Latency, y'know?


I thought about this a couple days ago, and
it gave me some pause: If the noise floor
for world band has gone up so much in the
last 10 years, then why is it only the time
signals that I no longer pull in like I used
to?

[email protected] June 24th 16 08:28 PM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
Michael Black wrote: "Put the radio near the window, the time signals
will come in as well as ever. Because you're getting away from all the inside noise, and closer "

I can take the set outside, to a nearby open
park, and the reception of the time sigs is
just as awful as it would be if I put the radio
next to my computer or mobile phone.

Michael Black[_2_] June 24th 16 08:29 PM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
On Fri, 24 Jun 2016, analogdial wrote:

wrote:



What do evangelists have to do with my problems
picking up WWV/H/B time syncs??


puhleeez...


Have you tried tuning in CHU?

Maybe that's the problem. I don't think I've ever heard CHU on the 14MHz
frequency, and that's going back to 1971. The 7MHz one always seemed the
most useful, but they moved it a few years ago, so if someone had an old
book, they might think CHU wasn't coming in, when it's really just on a
different frequency. The 3MHz one seems fine, but mostly at night.

Michael


[email protected] June 24th 16 08:41 PM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
analogdial wrote: "Have you tried tuning in CHU? "

Oh yeah, 33.3mHz. I'm concerned about latency issues
and use them only as a backup. I don't know if they are
just a repeater for the American time sources.

Something else I was thinking about the last couple
days that gave me pause: If the noise floor has gone up
so much lately for world band, then how come it is only
these time signals that I can't pull in as readily as I used
to years ago?

[email protected] June 25th 16 01:18 AM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
For anyone who doesn't believe classic-era boom boxes didn't have
shortwave bands on them:

http://componit.de/wp-content/upload...05/Boombox.jpg

Zoom in and count how many bands are on the scales of
most of them...

Joe from Kokomo[_2_] June 25th 16 04:00 AM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 

analogdial wrote: "Have you tried tuning in CHU? "


On 6/24/2016 3:41 PM, wrote:

Oh yeah, 33.3mHz.


Oooops, decimal point in the wrong place, should be 3.33 MHz

I'm concerned about latency issues
and use them only as a backup.


Huh? NO "latency" (not quite sure what you mean by that). Just the RF
propagation delay (at the speed of light) from their transmitter to your
location. No reason to use them as a "backup", they are every bit the
equal to WWV.

I don't know if they are
just a repeater for the American time sources.


Again, NO. They are their own man, so to speak. They use their own
atomic clock, radio transmitters, etc. A complete, stand-alone Canadian
equivalent of WWV and just as accurate as WWV. They are NOT WWV repeaters.

See:

http://www.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/servic...hort_wave.html

for a complete description of Canada's time service.


[email protected] June 25th 16 04:13 AM

Disappearance of Short Wave Time Signals at 5, 10, 15, 20kHz
 
Joe from Kokomo wrote: "Oooops, decimal point in the wrong
place, should be 3.33 MHz "


sigh... I never got this numbers thing - and
I never will. My relationship with math and
numbers makes Kennedy and Khrushchev
look like lovers by comparison!


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