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Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 20th 17 07:13 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

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fred k. engels[_13_] May 20th 17 02:16 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 


"Vassilis Spiliopoulos" wrote in message
...

Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

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Joe from Kokomo[_2_] May 20th 17 02:49 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.


So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




analogdial May 20th 17 03:26 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:

Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

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fred k. engels[_13_] May 20th 17 05:53 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
Enigma 2000 is an absolute joke. It is also creating
a form of elitism because their clique is a retarded form of elitism and
exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby. The arrogant retards who call
themselves Enigma 2000
keep on playing around till I get ****ed off. Wow. How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are. Just wow. Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute with their ****.
I really wish one day for an Enigma 2000 revolution to take place
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.


"analogdial" wrote in message ...

Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:

Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

---

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most wonderful human beings you'll ever know in your life.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 21st 17 03:39 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.


So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

Jerry Stuckle May 21st 17 04:52 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.


So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!


So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM BANDS!

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Michael Black[_2_] May 21st 17 07:23 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On Sun, 21 May 2017, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE TO
EXAMS!!!

Are you giving them, or taking them?

Exams won't go on forever, you may have to wait.

Or get a note from your parents.

I got my ham license when I was 12, going down in May and failing the code
receiving test, going back towards the end of June and passing that test
and getting the license. I got time off from elementary school, my mother
wrote a note for me.

Some countries don't have fixed dates for the ham exams. Or not once a
year. IN the US, they used to have a license where someone could take the
test locally if they lived a certain distance from an examining office,
and of course the original Novice license in the US used a voluntary
examiner. But that's in the past, more recently in the US all the tests
are given by voluntary examiners, so the date can be any time. If you went
to the big Dayton hamfest this weekend, you could take the test I'm sure,
bu it wouldn't be the only date. Here in Canada we also use voluntary
examiners, I forget when that came into effect, it was decades after I
took the test.

So depending on where you are, and you don't say that, there probably is
some way to accommodate someone who is unavailable when the exam is given,
if the exam is only once a year on a fixed date.

Michael


Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 21st 17 08:05 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 9:23 PM, Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2017, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

Are you giving them, or taking them?

Exams won't go on forever, you may have to wait.

Or get a note from your parents.

I got my ham license when I was 12, going down in May and failing the
code receiving test, going back towards the end of June and passing that
test and getting the license. I got time off from elementary school, my
mother wrote a note for me.

Some countries don't have fixed dates for the ham exams. Or not once a
year. IN the US, they used to have a license where someone could take
the test locally if they lived a certain distance from an examining
office, and of course the original Novice license in the US used a
voluntary examiner. But that's in the past, more recently in the US all
the tests are given by voluntary examiners, so the date can be any time.
If you went to the big Dayton hamfest this weekend, you could take the
test I'm sure, bu it wouldn't be the only date. Here in Canada we also
use voluntary examiners, I forget when that came into effect, it was
decades after I took the test.

So depending on where you are, and you don't say that, there probably is
some way to accommodate someone who is unavailable when the exam is
given, if the exam is only once a year on a fixed date.

Michael


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Well the exams here are at unsuitable dates for young adults.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 21st 17 08:06 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!


So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean everyone
follows your standards.

Jerry Stuckle May 21st 17 08:29 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!


So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean everyone
follows your standards.


No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

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fred k. engels[_13_] May 21st 17 08:35 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
And well, the Enigma 2000 belong to everyone, not just Enigma 2000 .
Enigma 2000 are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from Enigma 2000 .You are one country in Enigma 2000 .It does not mean
Enigma 2000
follows your standards.

"Vassilis Spiliopoulos" wrote in message
...

On 5/21/2017 9:23 PM, Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2017, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

Are you giving them, or taking them?

Exams won't go on forever, you may have to wait.

Or get a note from your parents.

I got my ham license when I was 12, going down in May and failing the
code receiving test, going back towards the end of June and passing that
test and getting the license. I got time off from elementary school, my
mother wrote a note for me.

Some countries don't have fixed dates for the ham exams. Or not once a
year. IN the US, they used to have a license where someone could take
the test locally if they lived a certain distance from an examining
office, and of course the original Novice license in the US used a
voluntary examiner. But that's in the past, more recently in the US all
the tests are given by voluntary examiners, so the date can be any time.
If you went to the big Dayton hamfest this weekend, you could take the
test I'm sure, bu it wouldn't be the only date. Here in Canada we also
use voluntary examiners, I forget when that came into effect, it was
decades after I took the test.

So depending on where you are, and you don't say that, there probably is
some way to accommodate someone who is unavailable when the exam is
given, if the exam is only once a year on a fixed date.

Michael


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Well the exams here are at unsuitable dates for young adults.


Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 21st 17 08:48 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean everyone
follows your standards.


No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 21st 17 08:50 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 10:35 PM, fred k. engels wrote:
And well, the Enigma 2000 belong to everyone, not just Enigma 2000 .
Enigma 2000 are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from Enigma 2000 .You are one country in Enigma 2000 .It does not mean
Enigma 2000
follows your standards.

"Vassilis Spiliopoulos" wrote in message
...

On 5/21/2017 9:23 PM, Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2017, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

Are you giving them, or taking them?

Exams won't go on forever, you may have to wait.

Or get a note from your parents.

I got my ham license when I was 12, going down in May and failing the
code receiving test, going back towards the end of June and passing that
test and getting the license. I got time off from elementary school, my
mother wrote a note for me.

Some countries don't have fixed dates for the ham exams. Or not once a
year. IN the US, they used to have a license where someone could take
the test locally if they lived a certain distance from an examining
office, and of course the original Novice license in the US used a
voluntary examiner. But that's in the past, more recently in the US all
the tests are given by voluntary examiners, so the date can be any time.
If you went to the big Dayton hamfest this weekend, you could take the
test I'm sure, bu it wouldn't be the only date. Here in Canada we also
use voluntary examiners, I forget when that came into effect, it was
decades after I took the test.

So depending on where you are, and you don't say that, there probably is
some way to accommodate someone who is unavailable when the exam is
given, if the exam is only once a year on a fixed date.

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Well the exams here are at unsuitable dates for young adults.

Also I cannot afford an HF transceiver so I use local VHF instead.
I will keep on jamming licenced hams with every way possible, including
sabotage of their installations where possible.That will teach them a
good lesson not to mess with radio pirates.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 21st 17 08:50 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 10:35 PM, fred k. engels wrote:
And well, the Enigma 2000 belong to everyone, not just Enigma 2000 .
Enigma 2000 are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from Enigma 2000 .You are one country in Enigma 2000 .It does not mean
Enigma 2000
follows your standards.

"Vassilis Spiliopoulos" wrote in message
...

On 5/21/2017 9:23 PM, Michael Black wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2017, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

Are you giving them, or taking them?

Exams won't go on forever, you may have to wait.

Or get a note from your parents.

I got my ham license when I was 12, going down in May and failing the
code receiving test, going back towards the end of June and passing that
test and getting the license. I got time off from elementary school, my
mother wrote a note for me.

Some countries don't have fixed dates for the ham exams. Or not once a
year. IN the US, they used to have a license where someone could take
the test locally if they lived a certain distance from an examining
office, and of course the original Novice license in the US used a
voluntary examiner. But that's in the past, more recently in the US all
the tests are given by voluntary examiners, so the date can be any time.
If you went to the big Dayton hamfest this weekend, you could take the
test I'm sure, bu it wouldn't be the only date. Here in Canada we also
use voluntary examiners, I forget when that came into effect, it was
decades after I took the test.

So depending on where you are, and you don't say that, there probably is
some way to accommodate someone who is unavailable when the exam is
given, if the exam is only once a year on a fixed date.

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Well the exams here are at unsuitable dates for young adults.

The E2K leader is a selfish fag, we call him Paul the Parrot.

Jerry Stuckle May 21st 17 11:03 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean everyone
follows your standards.


No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.


I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

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Joe from Kokomo[_2_] May 21st 17 11:30 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.


Why do you say the law makes "no sense"? Maybe they are there to
maintain some control on the bands (by users at least having a basic
concept of proper operation) and dare I say it, keeping bitter, lazy
bootlegging jerks away.

And both the dates are
inconvinient.


Aw, "inconvenient", you poor baby. "Inconvenient" does not equal
"impossible".

Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.


Well, let me say it again: So, if you are as smart as you seem to think
you are, why don't you just get your license??? (Too difficult for you?)
And you say "exams are expensive" but apparently you had enough money to
buy a radio.

Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.


Or maybe we should have laws to keep bootlegging, illegal clowns off the
air, just like we have laws to have people obey traffic signals or to
not rob banks.

If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.


The law is not harming you (your being lazy or an inconvenienced cry
baby does not count as "harm")-- and being a bootlegger does not leave
you very much room to talk about ethics.


[email protected] May 22nd 17 04:36 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 5:30:36 PM UTC-5, Joe "The KOOK" from Kokomo whines:

The law is not harming you (your being lazy or an inconvenienced cry
baby does not count as "harm")-- and being a bootlegger does not leave
you very much room to talk about ethics.


Joe "the KOOK" from Kokomo calling someone a cry baby.

That from a whining cry baby who has been crying for nearly 6 months about his candidate being defeated for President.

That's just so wrong it's funny. Bwahahah!

What a silly bitch that Joe "the KOOK" from Kokomo is.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 08:19 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.


I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 08:19 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 1:30 AM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.


Why do you say the law makes "no sense"? Maybe they are there to
maintain some control on the bands (by users at least having a basic
concept of proper operation) and dare I say it, keeping bitter, lazy
bootlegging jerks away.

And both the dates are
inconvinient.


Aw, "inconvenient", you poor baby. "Inconvenient" does not equal
"impossible".

Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.


Well, let me say it again: So, if you are as smart as you seem to think
you are, why don't you just get your license??? (Too difficult for you?)
And you say "exams are expensive" but apparently you had enough money to
buy a radio.

Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.


Or maybe we should have laws to keep bootlegging, illegal clowns off the
air, just like we have laws to have people obey traffic signals or to
not rob banks.

If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.


The law is not harming you (your being lazy or an inconvenienced cry
baby does not count as "harm")-- and being a bootlegger does not leave
you very much room to talk about ethics.


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You compare two COMPLETELY unrelated things together just to play smart
and "give" some emphasis.Are you SO BLIND to not read what I ****ING
WROTE????I CANNOT GO TO THE EXAMS , I ********CANNOOOOOOTTT***********
BECAUSE THE EXAMS ARE SET IN A ****ING DATE I CANNOT GO.ANNUALLY.FOR THE
PAST 5 GODDAMN YEARS.You are the clowns, and you attitude shows your
true lack of intelligence, you act like a bunch of 12 year olds on the
repeaters.You are all a bunch of 45 year old weirdoes who think that
everyone is capable of doing what you do at the TIME you do it.
Driving a car is completely different as without proper knowledge you
can easily kill someone or yourself.Ham radio won't kill anyone as long
as you're not retarded enough to go to the air bands and fool out
there.This could still be prevented by locking transmission there, it is
not that hard.
The law is per se not harming me but it is preventing me to do something
good and recreational and harmless which makes it a completely stupid
law.Having a driving licence(which is not a good idea to pursue due to
severe astigmatism making me unable to focus properly and makes my eyes
get tired 10x easier+ ocular leufkism which makes my eyes extremely
suspectible to the sun so I can't see a lot during the summer period) or
not being allow to rob a bank are completely different things.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 08:26 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 6:36 AM, wrote:
On Sunday, May 21, 2017 at 5:30:36 PM UTC-5, Joe "The KOOK" from Kokomo whines:

The law is not harming you (your being lazy or an inconvenienced cry
baby does not count as "harm")-- and being a bootlegger does not leave
you very much room to talk about ethics.


Joe "the KOOK" from Kokomo calling someone a cry baby.

That from a whining cry baby who has been crying for nearly 6 months about his candidate being defeated for President.

That's just so wrong it's funny. Bwahahah!

What a silly bitch that Joe "the KOOK" from Kokomo is.

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True lol.Trump is the best president.

[email protected] May 22nd 17 11:24 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
Vassilis I have consulted a very high ranking official familiar with amateur radio laws and regulations.

Your actions are quite justified as you are being systemically discriminated against thereby denying your right to attain an amateur radio license.

Therefore under provisions included in Article 303 Section 47 Subsection 19 Paragraphs 18 through 76 of International Law Code governing amateur radio you have the right to exercise all functions of a licensed amateur radio station.

So you may proceed. Welcome to the wonderful hobby of ham radio! And on a personal note I would like to apologize for the inexcusable attacks upon you by this group. Rest assured their opinions are not representative of the majority. They are those of a small clique of sick individuals who gain pleasure from attacking individuals who have been victimized by the system. They are very sick people. It is a shame you had to endure their abuse.

Wishing you all the best. May God bless you Vassilis.

Jerry Stuckle May 22nd 17 01:15 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.


I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.


No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal transmitters.

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analogdial May 22nd 17 02:12 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Also I cannot afford an HF transceiver


You can't figure out how to key a regen so you can transmit/recieve with
one active device? Sheesh!

so I use local VHF instead.
I will keep on jamming licenced hams with every way possible, including
sabotage of their installations where possible.


Sabotage? Again, you're overlooking the obvious. Don't destroy it,
STEAL IT!!

That will teach them a
good lesson not to mess with radio pirates.


Indeed. Radio Pirates. The Biker Gangs of the New kYear.


Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 03:25 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the **** out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.


No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 03:26 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 4:12 PM, analogdial wrote:
Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Also I cannot afford an HF transceiver


You can't figure out how to key a regen so you can transmit/recieve with
one active device? Sheesh!

so I use local VHF instead.
I will keep on jamming licenced hams with every way possible, including
sabotage of their installations where possible.


Sabotage? Again, you're overlooking the obvious. Don't destroy it,
STEAL IT!!

That will teach them a
good lesson not to mess with radio pirates.


Indeed. Radio Pirates. The Biker Gangs of the New kYear.


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Yes indeed sabotage.I have experience in electronics.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 03:28 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 1:24 PM, wrote:
Vassilis I have consulted a very high ranking official familiar with amateur radio laws and regulations.

Your actions are quite justified as you are being systemically discriminated against thereby denying your right to attain an amateur radio license.

Therefore under provisions included in Article 303 Section 47 Subsection 19 Paragraphs 18 through 76 of International Law Code governing amateur radio you have the right to exercise all functions of a licensed amateur radio station.

So you may proceed. Welcome to the wonderful hobby of ham radio! And on a personal note I would like to apologize for the inexcusable attacks upon you by this group. Rest assured their opinions are not representative of the majority. They are those of a small clique of sick individuals who gain pleasure from attacking individuals who have been victimized by the system. They are very sick people. It is a shame you had to endure their abuse.

Wishing you all the best. May God bless you Vassilis.

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They aren't denying me the right to get a licence.They are disrespecting
the fact that I live in an isolated area (1) and (2) I am unable to get
a licence due to my school (and soon university)schedule.

Jerry Stuckle May 22nd 17 03:45 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.


No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.


You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


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analogdial May 22nd 17 05:10 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Yes indeed sabotage.I have experience in electronics.


If you're on a strict budget, a homebrew spark gap transmitter would be
affordable.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 08:03 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 5:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you just
get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam. From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy, convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.

No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.


You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


I jam and threaten to sabotage legal operators because of their
behaviour.They will only learn the bad way.If their behaviour won't stop
I will jam the repeater.I once pressed so often that the system of the
repeater stuck and someone had to get on the mountain to fix it.I have
done and I will do it again if their behaviour continues this way.
Regulations do not exist because of my behaviour.I protest against them,
and I willingly violate them to show that they are wrong and
unfair.Personally I believe I am operating just fine and that the law is
wrong.
But their attitude towards us is what makes me furious.

Jerry Stuckle May 22nd 17 08:14 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 3:03 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 5:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is
also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most
hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they
own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university
entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves
licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to
take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you
just
get
your license???




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Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A
YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam.
From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least
immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic
stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or
stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want
to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you
study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy,
convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your
head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but
with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not
deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know
that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.

No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating
illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.


You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


I jam and threaten to sabotage legal operators because of their
behaviour.They will only learn the bad way.If their behaviour won't stop
I will jam the repeater.I once pressed so often that the system of the
repeater stuck and someone had to get on the mountain to fix it.I have
done and I will do it again if their behaviour continues this way.
Regulations do not exist because of my behaviour.I protest against them,
and I willingly violate them to show that they are wrong and
unfair.Personally I believe I am operating just fine and that the law is
wrong.
But their attitude towards us is what makes me furious.


Regulations are there to stop your infantile behavior. And what you
believe is immaterial. It's the law that counts.

Their attitude towards spoiled brats like you is perfectly reasonable.
Grow up. You won't go far in this world with that attitude.

And BTW - you only THINK they haven't caught you yet. You won't know
for sure until someone knocks on your door. And then it will be too
late. Plus they don't need to actually find your handheld. Just
identifying the signal came from your house is proof enough. And for
that they don't even need to enter your property.

--
==================
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle

==================

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 22nd 17 09:23 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 10:14 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:03 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 5:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is
also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most
hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they
own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university
entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves
licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to
take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you
just
get
your license???




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This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A
YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam.
From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least
immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic
stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or
stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want
to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you
study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy,
convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your
head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not "convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but
with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not
deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know
that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.

No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating
illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over 600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree and
got their licence at age 13 or so.

You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


I jam and threaten to sabotage legal operators because of their
behaviour.They will only learn the bad way.If their behaviour won't stop
I will jam the repeater.I once pressed so often that the system of the
repeater stuck and someone had to get on the mountain to fix it.I have
done and I will do it again if their behaviour continues this way.
Regulations do not exist because of my behaviour.I protest against them,
and I willingly violate them to show that they are wrong and
unfair.Personally I believe I am operating just fine and that the law is
wrong.
But their attitude towards us is what makes me furious.


Regulations are there to stop your infantile behavior. And what you
believe is immaterial. It's the law that counts.

Their attitude towards spoiled brats like you is perfectly reasonable.
Grow up. You won't go far in this world with that attitude.

And BTW - you only THINK they haven't caught you yet. You won't know
for sure until someone knocks on your door. And then it will be too
late. Plus they don't need to actually find your handheld. Just
identifying the signal came from your house is proof enough. And for
that they don't even need to enter your property.

And how they will prove it was me?Also I am absent from my house all day.
Their attitude was bad towards me regardless of how politely I was
talking.Until ofcourse after 2 hours of flaming I broke off and started
calling them names xD.
Ethics is above law, in the eyes of God.God is above law too.
Here the proceedure is more complicated.They have to find the physical
transmitter, that is why most people who were caught they had an
installation.
This law is retarded and immaterial.Telecommunications must be free to
everyone to use.

Jerry Stuckle May 22nd 17 09:32 PM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 4:23 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:14 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:03 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 5:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using
the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is
also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most
hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they
own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from
using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism
against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university
entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves
licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed
off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to
take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you
just
get
your license???




---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess
what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A
YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that
I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams
twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam.
From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We
believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least
immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic
stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of
laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or
stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a
ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want
to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you
study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy,
convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by
your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your
head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not
"convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards
pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but
with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years
and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not
deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know
that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.

No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have
taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating
illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on
your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be
even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is
the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and
will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over
600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a
fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree
and
got their licence at age 13 or so.

You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


I jam and threaten to sabotage legal operators because of their
behaviour.They will only learn the bad way.If their behaviour won't stop
I will jam the repeater.I once pressed so often that the system of the
repeater stuck and someone had to get on the mountain to fix it.I have
done and I will do it again if their behaviour continues this way.
Regulations do not exist because of my behaviour.I protest against them,
and I willingly violate them to show that they are wrong and
unfair.Personally I believe I am operating just fine and that the law is
wrong.
But their attitude towards us is what makes me furious.


Regulations are there to stop your infantile behavior. And what you
believe is immaterial. It's the law that counts.

Their attitude towards spoiled brats like you is perfectly reasonable.
Grow up. You won't go far in this world with that attitude.

And BTW - you only THINK they haven't caught you yet. You won't know
for sure until someone knocks on your door. And then it will be too
late. Plus they don't need to actually find your handheld. Just
identifying the signal came from your house is proof enough. And for
that they don't even need to enter your property.

And how they will prove it was me?Also I am absent from my house all day.
Their attitude was bad towards me regardless of how politely I was
talking.Until ofcourse after 2 hours of flaming I broke off and started
calling them names xD.
Ethics is above law, in the eyes of God.God is above law too.
Here the proceedure is more complicated.They have to find the physical
transmitter, that is why most people who were caught they had an
installation.
This law is retarded and immaterial.Telecommunications must be free to
everyone to use.


Where ever you are transmitting, both the government and hams are able
to track you. They do not have to find the physical transmitter.

And their attitude was justified because you were operating illegally.

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Jerry Stuckle

==================

[email protected] May 23rd 17 01:27 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:28:47 AM UTC-5, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
g.com

They aren't denying me the right to get a licence.They are disrespecting
the fact that I live in an isolated area (1) and (2) I am unable to get
a licence due to my school (and soon university)schedule.


I understand. But they ARE defacto denying you a license by refusing to accommodate you so you can take the exam. You have a solid legal case. I would contact the United Nations.

Michael Black[_2_] May 23rd 17 03:16 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On Mon, 22 May 2017, analogdial wrote:

Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Yes indeed sabotage.I have experience in electronics.


If you're on a strict budget, a homebrew spark gap transmitter would be
affordable.

Well a buzzer is simpler, and does about the same thing.

Michael


fred k. engels[_13_] May 23rd 17 03:54 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
Bad news everyone coconut crab (Birgus latro) does not live or booze on
Amelia Earhart alone but also The Man size Fred Noonan

"Michael Black" wrote in message
xample.org...

On Mon, 22 May 2017, analogdial wrote:

Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:


Yes indeed sabotage.I have experience in electronics.


If you're on a strict budget, a homebrew spark gap transmitter would be
affordable.

Well a buzzer is simpler, and does about the same thing.

Michael


[email protected] May 23rd 17 04:07 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:54:03 PM UTC-5, fred k. engels wrote:
Bad news everyone coconut crab (Birgus latro) does not live or booze on
Amelia Earhart alone but also The Man size Fred Noonan


Are you sure that isn't spelled kokonut krab? The kommie kook from kokomo wants to know.

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 23rd 17 04:43 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/22/2017 11:32 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 4:23 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:14 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:03 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 5:45 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 10:25 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/22/2017 3:19 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/22/2017 1:03 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:48 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:29 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 3:06 PM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/21/2017 6:52 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 5/21/2017 10:39 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
On 5/20/2017 4:49 PM, Joe from Kokomo wrote:
On 5/20/2017 2:13 AM, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
Ham law is an absolute joke.Law banning people from using
the
airwaves
legally like if using a transceiver is using a rifle.It is
also
creating
a form of elitism over who uses the radiowaves because most
hams
in my
country are a bunch of snobby oldies who think that they
own the
amateur
bands and essentially jam and prohibit anyone else from
using
it.Their
clique is a retarded form of elitism and exclusionism
against
people who
are also genuinely interested in the hobby yet are unable to
get a
licence for various reasons(mostly the exam date being a
completely
unsuitable day for people under 25 since the university
entrance
exams
are close-by).Every time I have attempted to speak politely
without a
callsign I have been welcomed with curse phrases.Even if I
explain the
situation, the arrogant retards who call themselves
licenced ham
operators keep on playing around till I get ****ed
off.Wow.How
inclusive
and "brotherly" they are.Just wow.Maybe they are brainwashed
into
believing that nobody unlicenced is good and that we are all
evil
trolls
who pollute the airwaves with their ****.
I really wish one day for a popular ham radio revolution to
take
place
where all unlicenced hams will take revenge on the asshole's
behaviour
by jamming the **** out of them continuously.
I encourage every unlicenced ham out there to jam the ****
out of
any
licenced ham as a form of retaliation.
Only this way these retards will learn how to behave.

So, if you are as smart as you think you are, why don't you
just
get
your license???




---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Maybe you did not read the text.
THE EXAM DATE IS USUALLY MAY 20-25 WHICH IS THE WORST DAY
POSSIBLE DUE
TO EXAMS!!!

So the entire world has to bow to YOUR schedule. Guess
what. IT
AIN'T
GONNA HAPPEN! Other people have schedules, also!

And here's another clue. Exams are offered MORE THAN ONCE A
YEAR!

There's an idiot born every minute...

And no, if you are not licensed, you ARE NOT WELCOME ON THE HAM
BANDS!

And well, the radio bands belong to everyone, not just ham
operators.
Exams are not offered IN MY COUNTRY more than once per year.
If you have a working brain, you should have understood that
I am
not
from america.You are one country in the world.It does not mean
everyone
follows your standards.

No, bands do NOT belong to everyone. They are a resource shared
among
all people in the world, and like other shared resources, are
regulated.
The radio spectrum is regulated by each nation according to
international agreements.

And I know you aren't from America. But Greece holds exams
twice a
year
- not just the end of May.

But it's probably good that you can't sit for the license exam.
From
your attitude you wouldn't make a very good amateur. We
believe in
following the laws, not operating illegally.

You believe in a set of laws with no sense.And both the dates are
inconvinient.
Also have you ever been in my country before or at least
immigrated?I
doubt that.Ham exams are expensive and difficult.Not just basic
stuff.
Maybe they should sell put callsigns if the retarded ministry of
communications wants more money.
If a law was stupid enough to cause you hassle or harm, would you
still
follow it? ethicslaws.

I have never seen a law stupid enough to cause me harm. Lots of
laws
cause me hassles, though - speed limits, for instance. Or
stopping for
red lights when there is no other traffic. But I still follow the
laws.
And if there is one I don't like, I will try to get it changed.

And the dates are not there for YOUR convenience. If you want a
ham
license, you will find a way to take the test. But all you want
to do
is gripe.

Ham exams aren't overly difficult. But they do require you
study. You
aren't going to get them from a cereal box.

Here's a clue. Not everything in life is going to be easy,
convenient
or free. Once you are out of school and not being supported by
your
mom
and dad, you'll have to work for everything - a roof over your
head, a
bed to sleep in and food on the table. Even if it's not
"convenient"
for you.

Yes but the entire topic of this post is about the behaviour of the
greek ham ****s that call themselves "licenced operators".
Their behaviour is worse than unacceptable,especially towards
pirates
who do not cause any trouble.Not that hams from your country are
innocent either.I have been on HF without a normal transceiver, but
with
a homemade morse cw transmitter and all I got back were curses.
What I complain about is the "argument" that has happened on the
repeaters, with some hams saying that I should be left to transmit
because of the fact I cannot go to the exams for the past 5 years
and
with others calling me and my supporters "faggots who do not
deserve to
have a VHF transceiver".Now should I jam the **** out of them and
possibly triangulate and/or sabotage their installations?I know
that if
you short circuit the antenna with a 220V supply the transmitter the
transmitter will burn.

No, this entire topic is about licensed radio operators who have
taken
the time to learn the appropriate material and take the test, vs.
pirates who have no legal authority to operate. By operating
illegally,
you ARE causing trouble.

As for what they are calling you - they are 100% correct, based on
your
actions. I just hope for your sake the Greek Ministry of
Transports-communications doesn't catch up with you. You will be
even
more unhappy than you are now. How does a few years of free room and
board courtesy of the Greek government sound to you?

And they will have help. Hams are very good at finding illegal
transmitters.

How AM I causing trouble?I know where to not broadcast, where the
military and emergency communications are and I know which power is
the
maximum possible in my country.
They have no caught me because I usually am in the freebander channel
The ham band is between 144-145 mhz.Now I could buy this handheld
because it was quite discounted (20 euro).
Locating me??I have a handheld.Even they find where I am I can and
will
hide the transceiver.They can't search my house unless the prosecutor
issues an order for that which is almost impossible.They haven't found
me for the past 6 years xDD
Your regulations are retarded and this is a fact.This whole **** was
made up for the retarded hellenic republic to profit from.Because the
exams require a fee of 25 euro.
The police uses the tetra radio system on 900mhz.So does the fire
service and the EMS.
Interfering with them is impossible and a tetra handheld costs over
600
euro.
Legal authority is a joke.The bands are free for everyone.Radio waves
are a natural thing that exists.
The exams are hard to do and set at an unsuitable date.That is a
fact.We
are not 45 year old lazy arseholes who haven't studied for a degree
and
got their licence at age 13 or so.

You, by your own admission, are operating illegally, jamming legal
operators and threatening to damage their equipment.

You are a perfect example of why there are regulations and licensing
requirements. Your kind is not wanted in a civilized society.


I jam and threaten to sabotage legal operators because of their
behaviour.They will only learn the bad way.If their behaviour won't stop
I will jam the repeater.I once pressed so often that the system of the
repeater stuck and someone had to get on the mountain to fix it.I have
done and I will do it again if their behaviour continues this way.
Regulations do not exist because of my behaviour.I protest against them,
and I willingly violate them to show that they are wrong and
unfair.Personally I believe I am operating just fine and that the law is
wrong.
But their attitude towards us is what makes me furious.

Regulations are there to stop your infantile behavior. And what you
believe is immaterial. It's the law that counts.

Their attitude towards spoiled brats like you is perfectly reasonable.
Grow up. You won't go far in this world with that attitude.

And BTW - you only THINK they haven't caught you yet. You won't know
for sure until someone knocks on your door. And then it will be too
late. Plus they don't need to actually find your handheld. Just
identifying the signal came from your house is proof enough. And for
that they don't even need to enter your property.

And how they will prove it was me?Also I am absent from my house all day.
Their attitude was bad towards me regardless of how politely I was
talking.Until ofcourse after 2 hours of flaming I broke off and started
calling them names xD.
Ethics is above law, in the eyes of God.God is above law too.
Here the proceedure is more complicated.They have to find the physical
transmitter, that is why most people who were caught they had an
installation.
This law is retarded and immaterial.Telecommunications must be free to
everyone to use.


Where ever you are transmitting, both the government and hams are able
to track you. They do not have to find the physical transmitter.

And their attitude was justified because you were operating illegally.

As mentioned earlier, my actions are justified as they were the result
and response to their behaviour.
Also why they should care if I operate illegally?Do I put my nose in
their business???

Vassilis Spiliopoulos May 23rd 17 04:44 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On 5/23/2017 3:27 AM, wrote:
On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 9:28:47 AM UTC-5, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:
g.com

They aren't denying me the right to get a licence.They are disrespecting
the fact that I live in an isolated area (1) and (2) I am unable to get
a licence due to my school (and soon university)schedule.


I understand. But they ARE defacto denying you a license by refusing to accommodate you so you can take the exam. You have a solid legal case. I would contact the United Nations.

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[email protected] May 23rd 17 04:53 AM

Ham radio regulation is a complete JOKE
 
On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:44:16 PM UTC-5, Vassilis Spiliopoulos wrote:

Please post a response if you got something meaningful to say xD


Just lending moral support to you Vassilis. I feel your pain and am trying to help.

I am currently on the hit list of higher ups in the world government because I know too much. If I have to suddenly bolt from the USA can you hide out me in Greece until the heat is off?


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