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WD4LCM July 9th 03 09:09 AM

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 11:36:21 -0400, N8KDV
wrote:


Whine ****ing whine... the gov't is supposed to protect you from everything...
Yada, yada, yada.....


Yeah...anyone not smart enough to spend their lives locked in a safe
room with bottled water and forever food and a gazillion rounds of
ammo deserves to die(?)

The government can't protect us from everything, but it should try to
protect us from some things. Particularly the most dangerous things.
And being able to communicate directly with the citizenry can go a
long way towards minimizing casualties.

The EAS is an important part of that. But having someone in direct
control of the station and can repeat and update inforation while the
emergency workers work on the emergency is clearly the best solution.

As far as tiny audiences go...when the 3 or 6 or 10 listeners start
calling people, yelling, whatever, along with the sirens...I'm sure
the ratings will shoot up REAL quick.

Broadcasters have the right to use a limited universal resource to
make a lot of money. I don't begrudge them that...I want to do it
myself someday. At the same time, common sense says they owe at least
a little bit to society...if nothing else than to keep their audience
alive so they can continue to listen.

RHF July 18th 03 04:48 AM

ML,

Hey, may be everyone in town should have been given a 'free'
Bell&Howell Shortwave Radio so that Washington DC could have broadcast
a "Special Alert" via shortwave directly to them.

What happen to the good old days to Alert the People of the Town:
* The Towns 'Civil Defense' Warning Siren would sound.
* Fire Station Bells and Sirens would Sound a Warning.
* Church Bells would Ring and Sound a Warning.
* Telephones would Ring as Neigbors and Families Passed the Word of
Warning.
* The Police Cars, Fire Trucks and others would simply drive down the
street with their sirens on and lights flashing to wake the people.

BUY NO . . .
We Have to Blame It All on the Evil FCC (Bad Government)
- - - and the equally Evil Clear Channel Communications (Big Business)

Honestly, it would appear that the Town of Minot needs to have an
Election and put public officials into office who know how to run a
'safe' little town properly.


NOTE: Looks like the two North Dakota Senators and Congressman under 8
years of President Bill Clinton did not diliver the goods.
- Kent Conrad, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Byron Dorgan, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Earl Pomeroy, Democrat - US Representative At Large - North Dakota.


Balanced Government is Good Government [.]
- A One Party System is Not Good Government.
- - A One Party System is About Maintaining the Political Power of the
Party.
- - - A One Party System is Inherently Corrupt.


The View from the Lower 48 ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Maximo Lachman)
= = = wrote in message ...
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.


Maximo Lachman July 18th 03 05:33 AM

why is it that only the Yankistanis on this NG are too functionally
illiterate to realise that Eli Pariser wrote the shtick that appears
on paksplace, and that I was only pointing the kind of rabble-rousing
rhetoric that one will find there? But at least give Eli credit
where credit is due: his rhetoric certainly succeeds at rousing the
rabble from the "lower" 48. (Guess that makes Canada the "higher 10" eh?)

RHF ) writes:
ML,

Hey, may be everyone in town should have been given a 'free'
Bell&Howell Shortwave Radio so that Washington DC could have broadcast
a "Special Alert" via shortwave directly to them.

What happen to the good old days to Alert the People of the Town:
* The Towns 'Civil Defense' Warning Siren would sound.
* Fire Station Bells and Sirens would Sound a Warning.
* Church Bells would Ring and Sound a Warning.
* Telephones would Ring as Neigbors and Families Passed the Word of
Warning.
* The Police Cars, Fire Trucks and others would simply drive down the
street with their sirens on and lights flashing to wake the people.

BUY NO . . .
We Have to Blame It All on the Evil FCC (Bad Government)
- - - and the equally Evil Clear Channel Communications (Big Business)

Honestly, it would appear that the Town of Minot needs to have an
Election and put public officials into office who know how to run a
'safe' little town properly.


NOTE: Looks like the two North Dakota Senators and Congressman under 8
years of President Bill Clinton did not diliver the goods.
- Kent Conrad, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Byron Dorgan, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Earl Pomeroy, Democrat - US Representative At Large - North Dakota.


Balanced Government is Good Government [.]
- A One Party System is Not Good Government.
- - A One Party System is About Maintaining the Political Power of the
Party.
- - - A One Party System is Inherently Corrupt.


The View from the Lower 48 ~ RHF
.
.
= = = (Maximo Lachman) wrote
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.


RHF July 18th 03 02:18 PM

ML,

In the USofA there are Incorporated Areas and Un-Incorporated Areas.
- Most Americans,
- - Like to Think of the Canadian Provinces as . . .
- - - Yet to be Incorporated Areas.

So for Today We Are Simply Cousins.
- And Some Day . . .
- - We May Be Brothers !
- - - Isn't Family Great !


Its All 'Bout Time Eh! ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Maximo Lachman)
= = = wrote in message ...
why is it that only the Yankistanis on this NG are too functionally
illiterate to realise that Eli Pariser wrote the shtick that appears
on paksplace, and that I was only pointing the kind of rabble-rousing
rhetoric that one will find there? But at least give Eli credit
where credit is due: his rhetoric certainly succeeds at rousing the
rabble from the "lower" 48. (Guess that makes Canada the "higher 10" eh?)

RHF ) writes:
ML,

Hey, may be everyone in town should have been given a 'free'
Bell&Howell Shortwave Radio so that Washington DC could have broadcast
a "Special Alert" via shortwave directly to them.

What happen to the good old days to Alert the People of the Town:
* The Towns 'Civil Defense' Warning Siren would sound.
* Fire Station Bells and Sirens would Sound a Warning.
* Church Bells would Ring and Sound a Warning.
* Telephones would Ring as Neigbors and Families Passed the Word of
Warning.
* The Police Cars, Fire Trucks and others would simply drive down the
street with their sirens on and lights flashing to wake the people.

BUY NO . . .
We Have to Blame It All on the Evil FCC (Bad Government)
- - - and the equally Evil Clear Channel Communications (Big Business)

Honestly, it would appear that the Town of Minot needs to have an
Election and put public officials into office who know how to run a
'safe' little town properly.


NOTE: Looks like the two North Dakota Senators and Congressman under 8
years of President Bill Clinton did not diliver the goods.
- Kent Conrad, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Byron Dorgan, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Earl Pomeroy, Democrat - US Representative At Large - North Dakota.


Balanced Government is Good Government [.]
- A One Party System is Not Good Government.
- - A One Party System is About Maintaining the Political Power of the
Party.
- - - A One Party System is Inherently Corrupt.


The View from the Lower 48 ~ RHF
.
.
= = =
(Maximo Lachman) wrote
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser
It's like something out of a nightmare, but it really happened:

At 1:30 on a cold January night, a train containing hundreds of
thousands of gallons of toxic ammonia derails in Minot, North Dakota.
Town officials try to sound the emergency alert system, but it isn't
working.

Desperate to warn townspeople about the poisonous white cloud bearing
down on them, the officials call their local radio stations. But no
one answers any of the phones for an hour and a half. According to the
New York Times, three hundred people are hospitalized, some are
partially blinded, and pets and livestock are killed.

Where were Minot's DJs on January 18th, 2002? Where was the late night
station crew? As it turns out, six of the seven local radio stations
had recently been purchased by Clear Channel Communications, a radio
giant with over 1,200 stations nationwide. There were no DJs or crew,
computers were running the station.


Maximo Lachman July 19th 03 03:35 PM

Why do y'all have a compulsion to earn the label "lower 48"?
(If it's to show why we're the "top ten" then such efforts are appreciated)

According to the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union, Canada
has the unilateral right to join the U.S. (presumably only as a single
state) since that provision was not altered by the Constitution.

RHF ) writes:
ML,

In the USofA there are Incorporated Areas and Un-Incorporated Areas.
- Most Americans,
- - Like to Think of the Canadian Provinces as . . .
- - - Yet to be Incorporated Areas.

So for Today We Are Simply Cousins.
- And Some Day . . .
- - We May Be Brothers !
- - - Isn't Family Great !


Its All 'Bout Time Eh! ~ RHF
.
.
= = = (Maximo Lachman)
why is it that only the Yankistanis on this NG are too functionally
illiterate to realise that Eli Pariser wrote the shtick that appears
on paksplace, and that I was only pointing the kind of rabble-rousing
rhetoric that one will find there? But at least give Eli credit
where credit is due: his rhetoric certainly succeeds at rousing the
rabble from the "lower" 48. (Guess that makes Canada the "higher 10" eh?)

RHF ) writes:
ML,

Hey, may be everyone in town should have been given a 'free'
Bell&Howell Shortwave Radio so that Washington DC could have broadcast
a "Special Alert" via shortwave directly to them.

What happen to the good old days to Alert the People of the Town:
* The Towns 'Civil Defense' Warning Siren would sound.
* Fire Station Bells and Sirens would Sound a Warning.
* Church Bells would Ring and Sound a Warning.
* Telephones would Ring as Neigbors and Families Passed the Word of
Warning.
* The Police Cars, Fire Trucks and others would simply drive down the
street with their sirens on and lights flashing to wake the people.

BUY NO . . .
We Have to Blame It All on the Evil FCC (Bad Government)
- - - and the equally Evil Clear Channel Communications (Big Business)

Honestly, it would appear that the Town of Minot needs to have an
Election and put public officials into office who know how to run a
'safe' little town properly.


NOTE: Looks like the two North Dakota Senators and Congressman under 8
years of President Bill Clinton did not diliver the goods.
- Kent Conrad, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Byron Dorgan, Democrat - US Senator - North Dakota.
- Earl Pomeroy, Democrat - US Representative At Large - North Dakota.


Balanced Government is Good Government [.]
- A One Party System is Not Good Government.
- - A One Party System is About Maintaining the Political Power of the
Party.
- - - A One Party System is Inherently Corrupt.


The View from the Lower 48 ~ RHF
.
.
= = =
(Maximo Lachman) wrote
according to:
http://www.paksplace.com/alert-details.htm
which has the following story also:

WHY WORRY ABOUT WHO OWNS THE MEDIA?
MoveOn Bulletin Op-Ed by Eli Pariser




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