Depends on what kind of DX'ing you want to do. Both are good radios.
Have you considered a used radio such as a Drake R8 or ICOM R71 ...both
are Great receivers and will cost around the same as a new Grundig 800

Shawn

RickH wrote:

Hello

I currently have a Sony 2010. I'm thinking about purchasing a Grundig
Satellite 800. Is the Grundig significantly better than the Sony?

Thank you for your help.

Best Wishes

Rick H

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That's a very good question. I like the S-800 better, but mainly for
aesthetic and ergonomic reasons. Electrically, they are pretty
similar.

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:09:57 -0700, "RickH"
wrote:

Hello

I currently have a Sony 2010. I'm thinking about purchasing a Grundig
Satellite 800. Is the Grundig significantly better than the Sony?

Thank you for your help.

Best Wishes

Rick H

In article ,
says...
That's a very good question. I like the S-800 better, but mainly for
aesthetic and ergonomic reasons. Electrically, they are pretty
similar.

On Wed, 9 Jul 2003 15:09:57 -0700, "RickH"
wrote:

Hello

I currently have a Sony 2010. I'm thinking about purchasing a Grundig
Satellite 800. Is the Grundig significantly better than the Sony?


I agree; I have both and although the 2010 is very sensitive I
like the Sat800 much better because of the great audio and the
smoothness of its operation.

"RickH" wrote in message ...
Hello

I currently have a Sony 2010. I'm thinking about purchasing a Grundig
Satellite 800. Is the Grundig significantly better than the Sony?

Thank you for your help.

Best Wishes

Rick H

Comparing the two: The Grundig has superior sound and much better
bandwidths. The wide bandwidth on the Grundig is very useful whereas
on the Sony it is too wide. The medium bandwidth on the Grundig is
slightly tighter than the narrow bandwidth on the Sony. The Grundig
has the advantage of a 2.3 narrow bandwidth which really helps on SSB.
Both are about equal on sensitivity. I prefer the sync detector on
the Grundig. When using an external antenna, the Grundig will perform
better since it will not overload as easy and has much better dynamic
range and blocking abilities.

I love my Satellit 800 and sold my Sony 2010.

"Gary" wrote:

I currently have a Sony 2010. I'm thinking about purchasing a
Grundig Satellite 800. Is the Grundig significantly better than
the Sony?

Comparing the two: The Grundig has superior sound and much better
bandwidths. The wide bandwidth on the Grundig is very useful
whereas on the Sony it is too wide. The medium bandwidth on the
Grundig is slightly tighter than the narrow bandwidth on the Sony.
The Grundig has the advantage of a 2.3 narrow bandwidth which
really helps on SSB. Both are about equal on sensitivity. I prefer
the sync detector on the Grundig. When using an external antenna,
the Grundig will perform better since it will not overload as easy
and has much better dynamic range and blocking abilities.

I love my Satellit 800 and sold my Sony 2010.

Hello!

Well, interesting story to read from you, Gary. Are you talking about
the Satellit 800-Millenium-Edition?

I am from Austia, Europe, and I've been given told that the 800 from
Grundig is the weakest receiver of the Satellite product range. Almost
every review gives very bad reports and recommends to buy rather a
Sony.

They also argumented that this lack of quality is the reason why
Grundig Germany (Fuerth) and almost every radio-shacks are not willing
to distribute this product in Europe. You only can purchase this
product by importing directly form the U.S.

I have to add that all test-reviews based on the "Grundig Satellite
800 Millenium Edition". Maybe here we have some different version of
the 800 we are talking about. Otherwise I can not explain myself the
different point of views between the U.S. and Europe on the same
product.

Looking up for your statements,

best greetings,
Tamas

"Gary" wrote:

[Grundig Satellit 800 Millenium]

I am from Austia, Europe, and I've been given told that the 800
from Grundig is the weakest receiver of the Satellite product
range. Almost every review gives very bad reports and rather
recommends to buy a Sony.

The most recognized review, the Radio Database International White
Paper, rates the Satellit 800 very high (4 1/4 stars out of 5).
[...]

Thanks for your quick answer. My comment is late. Sorry.

I'm really asthonished that there is a different meaning about the
Staellit 800 between the U.S. and Europe. If this receiver is as good
as you and the reviews are describing I wonder why this product is not
still distributed in Europe (espacially into Germany & Austria). Maybe
there is a company-policy behind as I've heard that Grundig Germany
has nothing in common with Grundig in the USA.

Although, thanks for your comment. I will ask my dx-club for
additional information. They will surely have latest news about the
800-series. If not I darely would a question to this group :-)

Greetings from Austria.

Tamas

TZ,

In its price range the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium is the 'best'
Broadcast Listeners Radio/Receiver. Yes, he GS800M has have some
quality problems on the earlier production models but the current
production is as good as most other manufactures.

The "truth and real reason' that the GS800M is not imported and sold
in Europe is that the Grundig-USA (ETON Corp.) is licensed to
manufacture and sell "Grundig" Brand Name Radios in the North American
Market (not Europe).
+ Note: The 'primary' busines of Grundig-USA is "Grundig" Name Brand
Radio/Receivers.

Grundig AG Germany has the rights to "Grundig" Brand Name Radios in
Europe and did not choose to market the GS800M in Europe mainly to
pricing considerations ~1000 Euros.
-Note: "Grundig" Name Brand Radio/Receivers are not even a major
business focus of Grundig Ag Germany.

If you are a Broadcast Program Listener and want hours of enjoyable
listening without fatigue then the GS800M is a good choice for you.


If you are stuck with the "Euro-Centric-Idea" that the only good
Grundig Radios were made in Europe.
- Then look for a 'used' Grundig Satellit 600 or 650.
- - Or many be a Grundig Satellit 500 or 700.
- - - Take the 'chance' and pay the price.


Back To the Original Point of the First Message on this Topic:
- - - If you are looking for a NEW radio/receiver and want full
features and quality sound then consider the Grundig Satellit 800
Millennium as a modern day replacement and upgrade for the Sony
ICF-2010. It is not a 'portable' but if you liked the Sony ICF-2010:
You should find the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium a pleasant radio
to own and use.


~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Tamas Zichy"
= = = wrote in message ...
"Gary" wrote:

I currently have a Sony 2010. I'm thinking about purchasing a
Grundig Satellite 800. Is the Grundig significantly better than
the Sony?

Comparing the two: The Grundig has superior sound and much better
bandwidths. The wide bandwidth on the Grundig is very useful
whereas on the Sony it is too wide. The medium bandwidth on the
Grundig is slightly tighter than the narrow bandwidth on the Sony.
The Grundig has the advantage of a 2.3 narrow bandwidth which
really helps on SSB. Both are about equal on sensitivity. I prefer
the sync detector on the Grundig. When using an external antenna,
the Grundig will perform better since it will not overload as easy
and has much better dynamic range and blocking abilities.

I love my Satellit 800 and sold my Sony 2010.

Hello!

Well, interesting story to read from you, Gary. Are you talking about
the Satellit 800-Millenium-Edition?

I am from Austia, Europe, and I've been given told that the 800 from
Grundig is the weakest receiver of the Satellite product range. Almost
every review gives very bad reports and recommends to buy rather a
Sony.

They also argumented that this lack of quality is the reason why
Grundig Germany (Fuerth) and almost every radio-shacks are not willing
to distribute this product in Europe. You only can purchase this
product by importing directly form the U.S.

I have to add that all test-reviews based on the "Grundig Satellite
800 Millenium Edition". Maybe here we have some different version of
the 800 we are talking about. Otherwise I can not explain myself the
different point of views between the U.S. and Europe on the same
product.

Looking up for your statements,

best greetings,
Tamas

"RHF" wrote:

In its price range the Grundig Satellit 800 Millennium is the 'best'
Broadcast Listeners Radio/Receiver. Yes, he GS800M has have some
quality problems on the earlier production models but the current
production is as good as most other manufactures.

Ok. Maybe this is the reason, why the GS800M was reported as bad in
the german reviews. These reviews or tests are dated very soon after
appereance of this product. So maybe the testers got some Grundigs
with typical children-illnesses. (as we use this word in german
meaning lacks in the first produced units)

The "truth and real reason' that the GS800M is not imported and sold
in Europe is that the Grundig-USA (ETON Corp.) is licensed to
manufacture and sell "Grundig" Brand Name Radios in the North
American Market (not Europe).

Thank you for this information! I didn't know about this brand
seperation between Europe and the USA.

Grundig AG Germany has the rights to "Grundig" Brand Name Radios in
Europe and did not choose to market the GS800M in Europe mainly to
pricing considerations ~1000 Euros.

Besides, the Grundig Germany sticks in very serious financial troubles
in the moment . They even had closed a well known traditional factory
in Vienna, Austria. I think they have other problems as to market an
expensive margin product for Europe.

If you are a Broadcast Program Listener and want hours of enjoyable
listening without fatigue then the GS800M is a good choice for you.

Well, I'm a very unregular SWL, but if I were I would really consider
to obtain the 800 after your hints.

If you are stuck with the "Euro-Centric-Idea" that the only good
Grundig Radios were made in Europe.
- Then look for a 'used' Grundig Satellit 600 or 650.
- - Or many be a Grundig Satellit 500 or 700.
- - - Take the 'chance' and pay the price.

I would gladly buy an used Satellit as I had my first hf-contact on a
Satellit 500 of my friend. But very good products are also expensive
even on the second hand market. Too expensive for an unfrequent SWL.

Greetings from Austria.
Tamas