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It's SO obvious!
Was listening to my local news station this morning as I awoke. At the start of a news story, the newsman stated: "With unemployment in our city nearing 10%..." This is an outright, bold-faced lie! I don't even think we're at half that! And it really should be 0% if the state government was doing its job and checking on these deadbeats cuz I see HELP WANTED signs all over! Including factories, department stores and restaurants. But this is how the liberal media plants its ideas into your heads, and why many of us listen to shortwave for an assortment of news and info. This time your slogan, "It's the economy stupid" ain't gonna work! Cuz you're LYING about it! I bet some of you Dems even quit your jobs when Bush took office just to try and drag the unemployment figures up. Anybody that does or says things to purposely hurt this nation's prosperity outta be hung for treason. Jimmie James -- Ce message a ete poste via la plateforme Web club-Internet.fr This message has been posted by the Web platform club-Internet.fr http://forums.club-internet.fr/ |
"Jimmie James" wrote in message ... Was listening to my local news station this morning as I awoke. At the start of a news story, the newsman stated: "With unemployment in our city nearing 10%..." This is an outright, bold-faced lie! I don't even think we're at half that! And it really should be 0% if the state government was doing its job and checking on these deadbeats cuz I see HELP WANTED signs all over! Including factories, department stores and restaurants. Would YOU take one of those minimum wage (or lower) jobs, if you had a family to feed, and exhorbitant rent and utilities to pay? Better to keep looking for a real job, because once you have put yourself into a minimum wage full time job, you can neither pay your bills nor look for a better job. |
Again, I'm going to respond via my own message...cuz that little twit in Vermont is a LIAR!!!! I just visited your states website. According to your (Vermont's) July unemployment records, which are the latest available, (Ausgust isn't out yet.) Vermont is sitting at 4.1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now think for a moment if the figure the twit in VT fabricated was actually 15%. The leading candidate on the Democratic ticket is from Vermont. And we're suppose to trust this bast-tard to run the nations economy with his states 15% unemployment????? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Jimmie -- Ce message a ete poste via la plateforme Web club-Internet.fr This message has been posted by the Web platform club-Internet.fr http://forums.club-internet.fr/ |
I presume you are employed and have not recently been turned down for
employment at all these places, otherwise you could see the truth as you stand in line for food. "Jimmie James" wrote in message ... Was listening to my local news station this morning as I awoke. At the start of a news story, the newsman stated: "With unemployment in our city nearing 10%..." This is an outright, bold-faced lie! I don't even think we're at half that! And it really should be 0% if the state government was doing its job and checking on these deadbeats cuz I see HELP WANTED signs all over! Including factories, department stores and restaurants. But this is how the liberal media plants its ideas into your heads, and why many of us listen to shortwave for an assortment of news and info. This time your slogan, "It's the economy stupid" ain't gonna work! Cuz you're LYING about it! I bet some of you Dems even quit your jobs when Bush took office just to try and drag the unemployment figures up. Anybody that does or says things to purposely hurt this nation's prosperity outta be hung for treason. Jimmie James -- Ce message a ete poste via la plateforme Web club-Internet.fr This message has been posted by the Web platform club-Internet.fr http://forums.club-internet.fr/ |
A lie? Where have you been for the last couple of years? This is the
highest unemployment rate in many years. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html "Jimmie James" wrote in message ... Was listening to my local news station this morning as I awoke. At the start of a news story, the newsman stated: "With unemployment in our city nearing 10%..." This is an outright, bold-faced lie! I don't even think we're at half that! And it really should be 0% if the state government was doing its job and checking on these deadbeats cuz I see HELP WANTED signs all over! Including factories, department stores and restaurants. |
Would YOU take one of those minimum wage (or lower) jobs, if you had a
family to feed, and exhorbitant rent and utilities to pay? Better to keep looking for a real job, because once you have put yourself into a minimum wage full time job, you can neither pay your bills nor look for a better job. Let's see. There are 168 hours in a week. You would sleep about 56, leaving 102. You work 40 hours at the minimum wage job plus 16 hours commuting, getting showered and dressed. There are still 46 hours in the week. But there's no time to look for a better job? You can't have an employment agency looking for you? Take the minimum wage job and immediately work to do better. Get a life. But don't be a slacker. |
"Tom Ellison" wrote in message ... Let's see. There are 168 hours in a week. You would sleep about 56, leaving 102. You work 40 hours at the minimum wage job plus 16 hours commuting, getting showered and dressed. There are still 46 hours in the week. But there's no time to look for a better job? You can't have an employment agency looking for you? Never mind that most of those 46 hours are non-business hours for anyone that pays more than minimum wage? |
Let me tell you something about Life, Son.
There's a thing called "a Job" You go there, do work, make the owner happy and get paid. If you have " A Job " You are The cheapest source of labor" "The Owner" Can Find Now If " The Owner" finds a " New Source" for Cheap Labor - Overseas, In India, Or The Philippines, Of China A source that earns only 20% or one-fifth of what your being paid. and he can talk to them & get their work via an uplink He'll "Outsource " Your Job .. - That means you - Don't have to go to work but have no paycheck no money No money to pay bills You're Credit cards are no good. No money from the ATM. One day a man called " A Sheriff" knocks at your door And hands you a piece of paper Its called "An Eviction Notice" Soon after He comes back and he take everything in your house and put it out in the street. Then Your what's called Homeless. - All Strictly Legal! One thing's for sure They'll never outsource Congress Or the House Or The President.. |
AGAIN I'm gonna respond to my own post cuz Brenda Ann and Brian D. shouldn't be given the right to vote!!!! These two swallow the lies the media feeds them and can't think for themselves!!!!!!!!!!!! A goodly number of people can't pass the postal exam??? First of all, I don't believe it because I know a young woman at our post office who passed it at 95% and she didn't even know Hawaii is our 50th state!!!! (Remember those wonderful state stamps that were recently marketed by the USPS?? She told us that she couldn't understand why Hawaii was included in those stamps!!!!) Now is that my problem or George W.'s problem that some schmuck is too moronic to pass the HIGHLY simple postal civil service exam???? NO!!!! If you want a good job, get an education!! Times have changed. In case you haven't noticed, we've become a high-tech society. To work high-tech and get the high-tech, high wages, you need high-er EDUCATION!! My teenager is going high tech: engineering. He works at a "burger joint" where he USED TO work minimum wage, but since he's proven to be a well rounded, dependable and hard working indiividual....he's now making almost TWICE the minimum wage. This has allowed him to pay for his college education!!! Yes...I've been unemployed before, SEVERAL times. And actually HOMELESS, living out of my car!!! (That was right after the GLORY Jimmy Carter years....a D E M O C R A T !!) You pull yourself up by your bootstraps and move on! You don't sit at home and whine, cry and bitch and blame your President when it's something YOU can take care of YOURSELF!! NOBODY is suppose to find a job FOR YOU!! I live in a state that is SUPPOSE to have one of these so-called high unemployment rates. But again, I see HELP WANTED signs from the USPS (LOCAL job postings!!!) to factories to McDonalds! And in case you haven't noticed, these unemployment rates are not all that high. 5% is typical for a growing economy. (The LIAR in VT is at 4.1%) Most of these rates were around during the EIGHT YEARS of Clinton. WHERE WAS ALL THE BITCHING AND MOANING THEN????? But I suppose some of you are too good and want to start right at the top as CEO's LOLOLOLOL!!!! Brenda Ann, CEO. Brian Denley, CEO. Has a funny ring to it, doesn't it. LOLOLOLOL!!! Jimmie -- Ce message a ete poste via la plateforme Web club-Internet.fr This message has been posted by the Web platform club-Internet.fr http://forums.club-internet.fr/ |
Well, a large portion of those low paying jobs will not be 9-5 M-F. Just
don't take any that are and you can job hunt. If you really want to work while you improve, it's not nearly a hopeless as has been painted. -- Tom Ellison "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "Tom Ellison" wrote in message ... Let's see. There are 168 hours in a week. You would sleep about 56, leaving 102. You work 40 hours at the minimum wage job plus 16 hours commuting, getting showered and dressed. There are still 46 hours in the week. But there's no time to look for a better job? You can't have an employment agency looking for you? Never mind that most of those 46 hours are non-business hours for anyone that pays more than minimum wage? |
"Jimmie James" wrote in message ... AGAIN I'm gonna respond to my own post cuz Brenda Ann and Brian D. shouldn't be given the right to vote!!!! These two swallow the lies the media feeds them and can't think for themselves!!!!!!!!!!!! My, what a rude little cretin you are. For starters, I do not buy into everything the media says, in fact, I tend not to buy much of it at all, this stemming from the experience of the Reagan shooting, where our press (predominantly ABC) had him everything from uninjured to dead.. so much for accuracy of the press. Next, though it's true I do not like Bush, for many reasons, I do not blame the economy on him. I mean, get real, the president really doesn't have squat to do with the economy. He does not set stock prices, he does not set profit levels or influence consumer spending. The economy is out of his control (this goes for both Republican AND Democratic presidents). A goodly number of people can't pass the postal exam??? First of all, I don't believe it because I know a young woman at our post office who passed it at 95% and she didn't even know Hawaii is our 50th state!!!! (Remember those wonderful state stamps that were recently marketed by the USPS?? She told us that she couldn't understand why Hawaii was included in those stamps!!!!) Now is that my problem or George W.'s problem that some schmuck is too moronic to pass the HIGHLY simple postal civil service exam???? NO!!!! If anybody could pass a Civil Service exam, then they most likely would not have them. And with our education system in the condition it's in, there are a LOT of folks who can't read the exam questions, let alone answer them. I'm afraid the problems with the education system can be blamed upon two generations of politicians (mostly Democrats, but enough Republicans to let it all slide) who let social workers and pshrinks tell us how to raise our kids. I know it's not politically correct, but dammit, when we could still spank our kids, they didn't take guns to school to blow away their classmates, or knife someone to take their sneakers. If you want a good job, get an education!! Times have changed. In case you haven't noticed, we've become a high-tech society. To work high-tech and get the high-tech, high wages, you need high-er EDUCATION!! My teenager is going high tech: engineering. He works at a "burger joint" where he USED TO work minimum wage, but since he's proven to be a well rounded, dependable and hard working indiividual....he's now making almost TWICE the minimum wage. This has allowed him to pay for his college education!!! Payed for college on $12 an hour?? Who was he living with? Who was paying his bills? Our household pulls in $70,000 net per year, and, although some things are much more expensive here (electricity alone runs upwards of $700 a month during the summer), most is comparable to stateside costs, and we do buy a lot of toys, and help people out as much as we can, but we don't get to save a lot. Certainly could not afford college, even a community college is out of our budget. And are you aware that over 20% (I don't recall the exact figure) of working people in the US are trying to live off of less than $25,000 a year? Perhaps in some economically depressed states like Mississippi or Arkansas or Oklahoma, where rents are much lower, but in most cities rent alone would eat up about half (or more) of that.. Yes...I've been unemployed before, SEVERAL times. And actually HOMELESS, living out of my car!!! (That was right after the GLORY Jimmy Carter years....a D E M O C R A T !!) You pull yourself up by your bootstraps and move on! You don't sit at home and whine, cry and bitch and blame your President when it's something YOU can take care of YOURSELF!! NOBODY is suppose to find a job FOR YOU!! I live in a state that is SUPPOSE to have one of these so-called high unemployment rates. But again, I see HELP WANTED signs from the USPS (LOCAL job postings!!!) to factories to McDonalds! Again, anyone blaming any president, or even CONgress, for that matter, for the state of the economy, is out of line, no matter the party. There are just too many market forces applied for such a small group of people, and certainly any one person, to make much of a dent. The biggest dynamic involves US and BUSINESS. I would have to guess that if any entity or group of entities has more overall influence upon the economy, it would be the trade unions. It is largely the trade unions that have caused the outsourcing of jobs in the US, and the pricing out of the market of US goods due to the artificially high wages of many jobs (I can't believe that someone gets paid $35 an hour to put windshield wipers on on an assembly line). But I suppose some of you are too good and want to start right at the top as CEO's LOLOLOLOL!!!! Brenda Ann, CEO. Brian Denley, CEO. Has a funny ring to it, doesn't it. LOLOLOLOL!!! FYI, I wouldn't WANT to be a CEO.. I wouldn't want to have a reputation of being a crook, as is the case of so many such, at least in the public's perception lately.... I would rather keep my reputation for being an honest person who still cares about the customer.. |
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 18:26:50 -0500, mAximo wrote
(in message ): My teenager is going high tech: engineering. He works at a "burger joint" where he USED TO work minimum wage, but since he's proven to be a well rounded, dependable and hard working indiividual....he's now making almost TWICE the minimum wage. This violates the principle of equal pay for equal work, if he isn't 2x as productive. No, this is in the United States, not a domain of Max the Troubled. -------------------------------------------------------- Choosing Microsoft software for your computer is equivalent to choosing Dr. Kervorkian as your family doctor. - Gray Shockley |
Or The President..
The President IS outsourcing/offshoring his campaign fund soliciting. Bill, K5BY |
Jimmie James wrote in message ...
Again, I'm going to respond via my own message...cuz that little twit in Vermont is a LIAR!!!! I just visited your states website. According to your (Vermont's) July unemployment records, which are the latest available, (Ausgust isn't out yet.) Vermont is sitting at 4.1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JJ, The Good Old 4.1% "UE Rate" is for College Educated White Males ONLY ! So this Translates to: = 8.2% for White Females and Asian-Americans. = 12.3% for those who only made it through High School. = 16.4% for those who did NOT made it through High School. = 20.5% for Hispanic-Americans. = 24.9% for African-Americans. jftfoi ~ RHF .. .. Now think for a moment if the figure the twit in VT fabricated was actually 15%. The leading candidate on the Democratic ticket is from Vermont. And we're suppose to trust this bast-tard to run the nations economy with his states 15% unemployment????? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Jimmie |
The Labor Department said the number of jobs lost In August rose by a
surprising 93,000, compared with an expected gain of 18,000 jobs. In July, 44,000 jobs were reportedly lost. The news comes on the back of a report Thursday showing that jobless claims bumped above the key 400,000 mark, seen as a contraction in the labor market, in the week ended Aug. 30. Or The President.. The President IS outsourcing/offshoring his campaign fund soliciting. Bill, K5BY |
"Jimmie James" wrote in message ... | If you want a good job, get an education!! Times have changed. And changed again. High - tech jobs are being exported to India, and programmers there are working for $10K per year, as opposed to the programmers and analysts here, who work for $50K and up. While the CIOs and CEOs thump there chest like baboons and chatter about "RIO" and "Our dedication to the shareholders," highly - educated Americans eat rice and beans, and wonder how they'll pay their mortgage. So much for education. 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
Precisely....to India.
Just like the big stock companies: West, ADC Communications (here in the Twin Cities), American Express....etc....etc..... "WShoots1" wrote in message ... | Or The President.. | | The President IS outsourcing/offshoring his campaign fund soliciting. | | Bill, K5BY --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
"Increasing export of white-collar jobs is cause for concern "
http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08102...ness/82527.asp "Already call-center jobs have been affected, including jobs in Utah. Convergys Corp. a week ago confirmed plans to move at least 100 technical support jobs at its Taylorsville call center to an overseas center. Almost any professional job that can be done long-distance is suddenly up for grabs. Jobs done by financial analysts, architectural drafters, telemarketers, accountants, claims adjusters, home loan processors and others at higher levels of the labor food chain are being farmed out to workers in other countries" In article et, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" writes: "Jimmie James" wrote in message ... | If you want a good job, get an education!! Times have changed. And changed again. High - tech jobs are being exported to India, and programmers there are working for $10K per year, as opposed to the programmers and analysts here, who work for $50K and up. While the CIOs and CEOs thump there chest like baboons and chatter about "RIO" and "Our dedication to the shareholders," highly - educated Americans eat rice and beans, and wonder how they'll pay their mortgage. So much for education. 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 Subject: It's SO obvious! From: "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" Date: 9/6/2003 5:00 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: . net Precisely....to India. Just like the big stock companies: West, ADC Communications (here in the Twin Cities), American Express....etc....etc..... "WShoots1" wrote in message ... | Or The President.. | | The President IS outsourcing/offshoring his campaign fund soliciting. | | Bill, K5BY --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
White-collar jobs also going overseas
By RALPH NADER In the past four decades, many millions of manufacturing jobs in this country have been shipped overseas. This transfer was supposed to be part of the “win-win” process of free trade. But 27 straight years of growing trade deficits with the rest of the world makes one wonder: Who’s winning? Conventional economists and their Republican and Democratic converts try to cushion this job-export machine by saying that the large majority of jobs in this country are white collar, not blue collar. The implication is that white-collar jobs are not as easy to export. Well, welcome to the computerization age. U.S. companies are rushing headlong to export computer programming work to countries such as India and Malaysia and now China, where English-language proficiency and cheap labor cut costs by more than two-thirds. Payroll processing, airline passenger billings, insurance computer applications and new software designs are only some of the labor that is done in foreign countries for U.S. companies. Computerworld magazine calls “Offshore’s Rise” relentless. By next year, it reports 40 percent of U.S. companies will have completed some kind of pilot program or will be using nearshore or offshore services. It is difficult to find any estimates regarding the total number of American jobs displaced in this sector. But Gartner Inc. uses the jargon “human resources outsourcing services” and puts a $46 billion price tag on them for this year. Moreover, U.S. firms are opening subsidiaries in countries such as India to compete with Indian firms for outsourcing business. Accenture CEO Joe W. Forehand is reported by Computerworld as comparing the trend to the previous exodus from the United States of many manufacturing operations. “The way we look at it, the industrialization of IT (information technology) is a reality, and we have to embrace that,” he said. IT has been in a bit of a slump, not to mention the rest of the computer industry. So, when outsourcing is combined with massive layoffs in this country and the continuing inflow of lower-wage computer technology workers under H-1B and L-1 work visas, it is not surprising to see the gloom besetting American technology workers. Unlike H-1B visas, which are supposed to receive prevailing wages (but often do not), the L-1 does not oblige employers to pay workers prevailing wages, and there is no cap on the number of these visas that can be awarded foreign workers. With more than 500,000 workers in this country on “temporary” H-1B visas, supposedly meeting a domestic dearth of skills, the L-1 visa workers are supposed to be just transfers between subsidiaries and parent companies. In fact, reports The New York Times, “they are now routinely used by companies based in India and elsewhere to bring their workers into the United States and then contract them out to American companies – in many instances to be replacement for American workers.” The number of workers replaced is unknown, according to the Times. All this upsets the Organization of the Rights of American Workers, a nonprofit group based in Meriden, Conn. Its president, John Bauman, believes that a recovery in this industry will not bring back the American jobs due to both outsourcing and these special visa programs so strongly desired by Silicon Valley companies. When these concerns are raised to international economists, one of their replies is, “Don’t you know what an extraordinary job machine is the U.S. economy?” Well, it has lost 2.6 million jobs since February 2001. Someday the Pollyanna belief that the U.S. economy always replaces the jobs it loses overseas with new jobs here, as we keep racing ahead of other countries with modern technology and new or redundant services, may run into a contrary riptide that no set of spurious statistics can obscure. (Not endorsing the author: Harvey) http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/ne.../2003/08/18/10 61224067.00100.8024.1448.html Subject: It's SO obvious! From: (RHF) Date: 9/5/2003 2:58 AM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Jimmie James wrote in message ... Again, I'm going to respond via my own message...cuz that little twit in Vermont is a LIAR!!!! I just visited your states website. According to your (Vermont's) July unemployment records, which are the latest available, (Ausgust isn't out yet.) Vermont is sitting at 4.1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JJ, The Good Old 4.1% "UE Rate" is for College Educated White Males ONLY ! So this Translates to: = 8.2% for White Females and Asian-Americans. = 12.3% for those who only made it through High School. = 16.4% for those who did NOT made it through High School. = 20.5% for Hispanic-Americans. = 24.9% for African-Americans. jftfoi ~ RHF . . Now think for a moment if the figure the twit in VT fabricated was actually 15%. The leading candidate on the Democratic ticket is from Vermont. And we're suppose to trust this bast-tard to run the nations economy with his states 15% unemployment????? LOLOLOLOL!!!!!! Jimmie |
In article , soames123
@aol.com says... "Increasing export of white-collar jobs is cause for concern " http://www.sltrib.com/2003/Aug/08102...ness/82527.asp "Already call-center jobs have been affected, including jobs in Utah. Convergys Corp. a week ago confirmed plans to move at least 100 technical support jobs at its Taylorsville call center to an overseas center. Almost any professional job that can be done long-distance is suddenly up for grabs. Jobs done by financial analysts, architectural drafters, telemarketers, accountants, claims adjusters, home loan processors and others at higher levels of the labor food chain are being farmed out to workers in other countries" In article et, "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" writes: "Jimmie James" wrote in message ... | If you want a good job, get an education!! Times have changed. And changed again. High - tech jobs are being exported to India, and programmers there are working for $10K per year, as opposed to the programmers and analysts here, who work for $50K and up. While the CIOs and CEOs thump there chest like baboons and chatter about "RIO" and "Our dedication to the shareholders," highly - educated Americans eat rice and beans, and wonder how they'll pay their mortgage. So much for education. 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 Subject: It's SO obvious! From: "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" Date: 9/6/2003 5:00 PM Eastern Standard Time Message-id: . net Precisely....to India. Just like the big stock companies: West, ADC Communications (here in the Twin Cities), American Express....etc....etc..... "WShoots1" wrote in message ... | Or The President.. | | The President IS outsourcing/offshoring his campaign fund soliciting. | | Bill, K5BY --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 When the brain trusts running these companies figure out that sending all these jobs overseas: 1. Makes their own sales go down, since who will be able to afford their stuff if people here can't buy it? 2. ****es people off when they call Dell(for example) and get someone in India, who they can't understand. I know two people who are "done with Dell" since they started getting people in India answering CS and Tech Support calls. 3. Make people even more resentful of the insanely high pay some of these bigshots get after cutting lots of jobs. Maybe, they will have the sense to stop it. But I doubt it, most people in upper management have a totally warped view of how things really work, and how they should work.. BDK |
= = = "mike"
= = = wrote in message ... "Diverd4777 wrote Ditto the agreement. Here in Vermont, the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %. With a state population of about 750,000 each job posted to the newspaper gets over 500 resumes. Additionaly, Federal figures don't count those not collecting a check. (inelligible, unable to find work after benefits expiring, etc) mike mike, Mike. MIKE ! "the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %." * "effectively" = Are we talking reality here or some ones Imagination ? ? How do we get to an "effective" Unemployment Rate ? ? ? ? Do we start with the Actual Unemployed ? ? ? + Add-in the Long Term Unemployed ? + + Add-in the Under-Employed ? + + + Add-in the School Teachers during the Summer ? + + + Add-in the Disabled due to Work Injuries ? + + + + Add-in the Homeless ? + + + + Add-in those on Welfare/AFDC/SSI/SSDI ? + + + + + Add-in the Full & Part Time Students ? + + + + + + Add-in the Retired ? + + + + + + + Add-in Prisoners in Jails ? * "nearing" = 8 is nearer to 15 then 7 -and- 7 is nearer to 0 then 8 - Slip Sliding Away - - Slip Sliding Away - - - Slip Sliding Away . . .. * "15" = So is this a Real Number ? OR - Does it simply reflex your personal political {agenda} reality ? - Gloom and Doom - - Gloom and Doom - - - Gloom and Doom . . . * "%" = Percentage of What = "Able Body Workers" Only or Anyone and Everyone ? Please Enlighten Me ~ RHF OBTW: The best set of "srebmun" (numbers: spelled back-words :o) that I remember, and that were 'presented' as FACTS. Involved counting minority women twice as women and then minorities. But, for some reason minority males were not counted twice. Oh So Politically Correct ! .. .. |
FWIW file, he
When the Federal Gov. calculates unemployment figures, they do so by conducting a survey of 300 employers (businesses). If the business has changed its phone number and cannot be contacted, the Federal Government reports something to the effect that said business has not cut any jobs. I think the jobless problem is perhaps the biggest one we face as a nation....and, working as a Title Examiner/Manager/Insurance Agent, I can attest that waaaaay too many folks are getting fifth, sixth, and seventh refi's....just to pay the bills. I can also state with honesty that too many folks who have no business buying a home are doing precisely that. Hoping for a *real* recovery.... 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN (P.S., I was going to chide you about not including minorities (whose unemployment rate is way higher)....until I read the last paragraph) "RHF" wrote in message om... | = = = "mike" | = = = wrote in message ... | "Diverd4777 wrote | | Ditto the agreement. | | Here in Vermont, the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %. | With a state population of about 750,000 each job posted to the newspaper | gets over 500 resumes. | | Additionaly, Federal figures don't count those not collecting a check. | (inelligible, unable to find work after benefits expiring, etc) | | mike | | | | mike, Mike. MIKE ! | | | "the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %." | | | * "effectively" = Are we talking reality here or some ones Imagination | ? | ? How do we get to an "effective" Unemployment Rate ? | ? ? ? Do we start with the Actual Unemployed ? ? ? | + Add-in the Long Term Unemployed ? | + + Add-in the Under-Employed ? | + + + Add-in the School Teachers during the Summer ? | + + + Add-in the Disabled due to Work Injuries ? | + + + + Add-in the Homeless ? | + + + + Add-in those on Welfare/AFDC/SSI/SSDI ? | + + + + + Add-in the Full & Part Time Students ? | + + + + + + Add-in the Retired ? | + + + + + + + Add-in Prisoners in Jails ? | | | * "nearing" = 8 is nearer to 15 then 7 -and- 7 is nearer to 0 then 8 | - Slip Sliding Away - - Slip Sliding Away - - - Slip Sliding Away . . | . | | | * "15" = So is this a Real Number ? | OR - Does it simply reflex your personal political {agenda} reality ? | - Gloom and Doom - - Gloom and Doom - - - Gloom and Doom . . . | | * "%" = Percentage of What = "Able Body Workers" Only or Anyone and | Everyone ? | | | Please Enlighten Me ~ RHF | | | OBTW: The best set of "srebmun" (numbers: spelled back-words :o) that | I remember, and that were 'presented' as FACTS. Involved counting | minority women twice as women and then minorities. But, for some | reason minority males were not counted twice. Oh So Politically | Correct ! | | | . | | . --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
SMHL,
Already posted the Little 'm' Numbers: From: RHF ) Subject: It's SO obvious! Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: 2003-09-04 23:58:16 PST Jimmie James wrote in message ... Again, I'm going to respond via my own message...cuz that little twit in Vermont is a LIAR!!!! I just visited your states website. According to your (Vermont's) July unemployment records, which are the latest available, (Ausgust isn't out yet.) Vermont is sitting at 4.1%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JJ, The Good Old 4.1% "UE Rate" is for College Educated White Males ONLY ! So this Translates to: = 8.2% for White Females and Asian-Americans. = 12.3% for those who only made it through High School. = 16.4% for those who did NOT made it through High School. = 20.5% for Hispanic-Americans. = 24.9% for African-Americans. jftfoi ~ RHF .. .. = = = "Stephen M.H. Lawrence" = = = wrote in message nk.net... FWIW file, he When the Federal Gov. calculates unemployment figures, they do so by conducting a survey of 300 employers (businesses). If the business has changed its phone number and cannot be contacted, the Federal Government reports something to the effect that said business has not cut any jobs. I think the jobless problem is perhaps the biggest one we face as a nation....and, working as a Title Examiner/Manager/Insurance Agent, I can attest that waaaaay too many folks are getting fifth, sixth, and seventh refi's....just to pay the bills. I can also state with honesty that too many folks who have no business buying a home are doing precisely that. Hoping for a *real* recovery.... 73, Steve Lawrence Burnsville, MN (P.S., I was going to chide you about not including minorities (whose unemployment rate is way higher)....until I read the last paragraph) "RHF" wrote in message om... | = = = "mike" | = = = wrote in message ... | "Diverd4777 wrote | | Ditto the agreement. | | Here in Vermont, the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %. | With a state population of about 750,000 each job posted to the newspaper | gets over 500 resumes. | | Additionaly, Federal figures don't count those not collecting a check. | (inelligible, unable to find work after benefits expiring, etc) | | mike | | | | mike, Mike. MIKE ! | | | "the unemployment rate is effectively nearing 15 %." | | | * "effectively" = Are we talking reality here or some ones Imagination | ? | ? How do we get to an "effective" Unemployment Rate ? | ? ? ? Do we start with the Actual Unemployed ? ? ? | + Add-in the Long Term Unemployed ? | + + Add-in the Under-Employed ? | + + + Add-in the School Teachers during the Summer ? | + + + Add-in the Disabled due to Work Injuries ? | + + + + Add-in the Homeless ? | + + + + Add-in those on Welfare/AFDC/SSI/SSDI ? | + + + + + Add-in the Full & Part Time Students ? | + + + + + + Add-in the Retired ? | + + + + + + + Add-in Prisoners in Jails ? | | | * "nearing" = 8 is nearer to 15 then 7 -and- 7 is nearer to 0 then 8 | - Slip Sliding Away - - Slip Sliding Away - - - Slip Sliding Away . . | . | | | * "15" = So is this a Real Number ? | OR - Does it simply reflex your personal political {agenda} reality ? | - Gloom and Doom - - Gloom and Doom - - - Gloom and Doom . . . | | * "%" = Percentage of What = "Able Body Workers" Only or Anyone and | Everyone ? | | | Please Enlighten Me ~ RHF | | | OBTW: The best set of "srebmun" (numbers: spelled back-words :o) that | I remember, and that were 'presented' as FACTS. Involved counting | minority women twice as women and then minorities. But, for some | reason minority males were not counted twice. Oh So Politically | Correct ! | | | . | | . --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/03 |
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