FWIW, I think they are quoting scripture accurately, except for the part
about the kid that I never heard. There are all kinds and degrees of views,
and a lot needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Smeter wrote:
FWIW, I think they are quoting scripture accurately, except for the part
about the kid that I never heard. There are all kinds and degrees of views,
and a lot needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

HAHAHAHAHA!! I get it! Lot...salt...

Good one!

This is all Biblically accurate.

Matthew 5
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust
after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from
thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should
perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from
thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should
perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


courtesy of http://www.gospelcom.net/

Naturally the point here is its better to go to heaven missing body
parts than to go to hell in whole.

And I believe the earlier posted section was saying its not such a hot
idea for a seasoned Christian to say something to a new Christiain
which may result in that person loosing faith and fall away. Many
times its better just to hold the tongue than criticise or confuse a
new Christian. And from what Mathew is saying to the offender:

It is better to place a millstone around that persons neck and toss
them into the sea. Than for them to cause a new Christian to stumble.

The nature of Christianity is such that the Holy Spirit gradually
convicts each person of the sins in their life. Others don't usually
need to do it for them. Exceptions (IMHO) are your pastor preaching to
the whole church and not singling anyone out.


Mike

On 10 Sep 2003 11:33:00 -0700, (Randy Padawer)
wrote:

Today I scanned across 19m and heard some really scary evanglist types
on 15.385 MHz -- it was just after 1800 GMT, Wednesday, September 10,
2003. Here's an excerpt:

"If your hand or foot causes you to sin,
cut it off and throw it away.
It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled
than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire."

"And if your eye causes you to sin,
gouge it out and throw it away.
It is better for you to enter into life with one eye
than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell."

Another verse I don't even want to directly quote -- the gist of it
was that it would be better for a child to have a millstone put around
his neck and drowned than to witness someone else sinning. I sure
hope we don't hear about these people on CNN one day, but I imagine
nevertheless that some of the religious-based murders we sometimes
hear are grounded in beliefs like this.

Anybody know what group originates this incredible doggerel?

Randy (WA4FJF)

Thanks, all. Well, I've certainly revealed my scriptural ignorance
today, LOL. That just sounded so extreme to me, and when chanted
(responsive reading group-style) sounded really way out. Thanks for
clarifying and for the information.

Randy (WA4FJF)

If I followed their Biblical advice, then I'd probably enter heaven as a
eunuch.

Note that the entity's president is a Jesuit. I understand the Jesuits were
finally kicked out of the RCC for their extremist actions. Certainly they were
the ones who accompanied the Spanish explorers 500 years ago and did bad things
to Mesoamerican societies and burned their books.

Bill, K5BY

"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
If I followed their Biblical advice, then I'd probably enter heaven as a
eunuch.

Note that the entity's president is a Jesuit. I understand the Jesuits
were
finally kicked out of the RCC for their extremist actions. Certainly they
were
the ones who accompanied the Spanish explorers 500 years ago and did bad
things
to Mesoamerican societies and burned their books.

Bill, K5BY

As far as I know, the Jesuits are in good standing with the Catholic Church.
I believe the Pope has disciplined a Bishop in France, but that was a few
years ago, and I don't follow that stuff closely.

Some SW broadcaster claimed the Jesuits are a CIA-like orginization who
will, or already have, engineered either the Antichrist or the False Prophet
into the Papacy. Sounds like something James Lloyd would say, but if the
story has been floating around the usual credulous sources, it could have
been any of several.

Frank Dresser

"Randy Padawer" wrote in message
m...
Thanks, all. Well, I've certainly revealed my scriptural ignorance
today, LOL. That just sounded so extreme to me, and when chanted
(responsive reading group-style) sounded really way out. Thanks for
clarifying and for the information.

Randy (WA4FJF)

Considering the strangeness we've seen attributed to the Talmud on this
group, Biblical trolling was the first thing that popped in my mind. Sorry
'bout that!

Frank Dresse

Sigh...another human who cannot accept the preachings from the
bible....There are verses in the King James Bible that preach similar
things. If you don't like it, that is your problem...


Clete





Randy Padawer wrote in message ...
Today I scanned across 19m and heard some really scary evanglist types
on 15.385 MHz -- it was just after 1800 GMT, Wednesday, September 10,
2003. Here's an excerpt:

"If your hand or foot causes you to sin,
cut it off and throw it away.
It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled
than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire."

"And if your eye causes you to sin,
gouge it out and throw it away.
It is better for you to enter into life with one eye
than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell."

Another verse I don't even want to directly quote -- the gist of it
was that it would be better for a child to have a millstone put around
his neck and drowned than to witness someone else sinning. I sure
hope we don't hear about these people on CNN one day, but I imagine
nevertheless that some of the religious-based murders we sometimes
hear are grounded in beliefs like this.

Anybody know what group originates this incredible doggerel?

Randy (WA4FJF)

Sigh, Clete... I'm not against the Bible and neither am I
adverse from learning, I just didn't realize I was quoting
from the Bible. I apologize for my ignorance -- I honestly
thought what I was hearing was pretty unusual. By the way,
is ridicule and third-person contempt the usual way you
attempt to reach people like me who don't know this
stuff? I'm glad they never treated me this way when I
studied for my ham license -- I can hear it now... "Sigh...
another human who cannot accept the supremacy of
Morse code... Sigh... another human who can't understand
inductive reactance even after the tenth explanation...
Sigh... another human who failed his General written
portion because he didn't study hard enough (back in
1977 when the tests were still administered at the FCC
field office, and the questions weren't distributed in
advance)... Sigh..."

Sigh,

Randy (WA4FJF)


"Clete" wrote in message ...
Sigh...another human who cannot accept the preachings from the
bible....There are verses in the King James Bible that preach similar
things. If you don't like it, that is your problem...
Clete

Well stated Randy. You are correct in your observations.

mike



On 11 Sep 2003 12:20:42 -0700, (Randy Padawer)
wrote:

By the way,
is ridicule and third-person contempt the usual way you
attempt to reach people like me who don't know this
stuff?