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Old September 26th 03, 05:58 PM
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive.

Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will
trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra
delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station.

Dan/W4NTI



OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?

Frank Dresser


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Old September 26th 03, 07:55 PM
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OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?



Hmmm. That would be real interesting. The FCC restricting the use of
lawfully licensed transmitters in order to accomodate Part15 unlicensed
operations of incidental radiators.....


Ed WB6SAT

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Old September 26th 03, 08:04 PM
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Ed G. wrote:

OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?




Hmmm. That would be real interesting. The FCC restricting the use of
lawfully licensed transmitters in order to accomodate Part15 unlicensed
operations of incidental radiators.....


Ed WB6SAT

They'll modify the rules so it fits their agenda. remember, the FCC
will do anything that can make them $$$$ for the US Treasury.

73

Frank K3EKO

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Old September 26th 03, 08:38 PM
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Hmmm. That would be real interesting. The FCC restricting the use of
lawfully licensed transmitters in order to accomodate Part15 unlicensed
operations of incidental radiators.....


Ed WB6SAT


Uh huh. The BPL folk have important freinds at the FCC. Do the hams? If
so, why has this BPL thing gone this far?

Frank Dresser


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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive.

Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will
trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra
delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station.

Dan/W4NTI



OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?

Frank Dresser



Well, hopefully, they can still read their own rules and regulations there
at the FCC. You see we are the authorized legal service. And BPL is the
unlicensed part 15 activity. Part 15 devices must accept interference from
the licensed users. Hams.

Course again, we are dealing with lawyers. So anything goes.

Dan/W4NTI




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Well, hopefully, they can still read their own rules and regulations there
at the FCC. You see we are the authorized legal service. And BPL is the
unlicensed part 15 activity. Part 15 devices must accept interference

from
the licensed users. Hams.

Course again, we are dealing with lawyers. So anything goes.

Dan/W4NTI



If they don't like what they read, they'll write new ones.

Frank Dresser


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"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
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"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
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The transmission lines are radiators. As such they will also receive.

Power lines are right up next to the rigs. The RF from the radios will
trash the BPL. Probably by causing drop outs and adding lots of extra
delays. Basically it will make BPL useless anywhere near a ham station.

Dan/W4NTI



OK, let's say it does slow or even stop BPL near a ham station. Why
wouldn't the FCC restrict amatuer operations around BPL areas?

Frank Dresser



Because we are a licensed service and BPL is not ...

Carl - wk3c

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Because we are a licensed service and BPL is not ...

Carl - wk3c


Oh. Who writes the licensing rules? Would it be the same politicians and
bureaucrats who think BPL is just fine and dandy?

Frank Dresser


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In article k.net,
Dan/W4NTI w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote:
Well, hopefully, they can still read their own rules and regulations there
at the FCC. You see we are the authorized legal service.


THEY are the law. If they decide the public need for this kind of
broadband internet access outweighs the need of a few hams to
chit-chat...well...

Politics is quite an interesting thing. What's Right isn't always
clear-cut, and doesn't always go, even if it is.

We're probably talking about a majority of lawmakers who neither
understand radio nor the internet. They're likely to see, "guy with
freaky-ass radio equipment is stopping hundreds of my voters from
getting internet access, and this should be illegal." Or, worse, "Guy
who is giving me no money is interfering with organization that is
laying on the dough."

A united voice speaks better to the government, which is why ARRL is
asking for backing.

-Beej

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What have you done for Amateur Radio today?
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The question is what has the ARRL done to the future of Ham Radio
by hanging on to the Morse Code Requirement? It has killed it.


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