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Old September 26th 03, 02:11 AM
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Unless the antenna is 1/2 wave above a prfectly conducting ground or
counterpoise, it really won't matter because it won't be directional.

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Gregg wrote:

Unless the antenna is 1/2 wave above a prfectly conducting ground or
counterpoise, it really won't matter because it won't be directional.


Could you direct me to a source for this theory?

Thanks,

Dale W4OP

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Old September 26th 03, 02:59 AM
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Many people will be real disapointed that their Beverage really doesn't work
after all, eh?
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Gregg wrote:

Unless the antenna is 1/2 wave above a prfectly conducting ground or
counterpoise, it really won't matter because it won't be directional.


Could you direct me to a source for this theory?

Thanks,

Dale W4OP



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Old September 26th 03, 05:38 AM
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Behold, CW signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Many people will be real disapointed that their Beverage really doesn't
work after all, eh?


Let's let him have a wee frustration, then we'll tell him to terminate the
far end with a 600 ohm resistor ;-)

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Behold, Dale Parfitt signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:



Gregg wrote:

Unless the antenna is 1/2 wave above a prfectly conducting ground or
counterpoise, it really won't matter because it won't be directional.


Could you direct me to a source for this theory?

Thanks,

Dale W4OP


ARRL Antenna Anthology.

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For fractional wavelength antennas, directionality will be lost at low
heights. At one wavelength or longer, they become directioal at any height.
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Behold, Dale Parfitt signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:



Gregg wrote:

Unless the antenna is 1/2 wave above a prfectly conducting ground or
counterpoise, it really won't matter because it won't be directional.


Could you direct me to a source for this theory?

Thanks,

Dale W4OP


ARRL Antenna Anthology.

--
Gregg
*It's probably useful, even if it can't be SPICE'd*
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca



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Gregg wrote:

Behold, Dale Parfitt signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Gregg wrote:

Unless the antenna is 1/2 wave above a prfectly conducting ground or
counterpoise, it really won't matter because it won't be directional.

Antenna theory, and NEC modeling radically disagree with this- How many

antennas do you want to see that are not 1/2 wave above a perfect ground
and yet show outstanding directionality?


W4OP

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Old September 26th 03, 07:32 PM
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Behold, Dale Parfitt signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Antenna theory, and NEC modeling radically disagree with this- How
many

antennas do you want to see that are not 1/2 wave above a perfect
ground and yet show outstanding directionality?


W4OP


Phased arrays can be made directional. We are talking longwires here.

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Old September 26th 03, 10:32 PM
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Gregg wrote:

Behold, Dale Parfitt signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Antenna theory, and NEC modeling radically disagree with this- How
many
antennas do you want to see that are not 1/2 wave above a perfect
ground and yet show outstanding directionality?


W4OP


Phased arrays can be made directional. We are talking longwires here.


So am I. The higher a longwire antenna is in terms of wavelength, the
better defined the nulls become; i.e. its directional characteristics are
enhanced. Nothing magical about 1/2 wave above perfectly conducting
ground.
If you can read AO files, I'll be happy to send a file demonstrating this.

W4OP

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Old September 27th 03, 01:24 AM
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Behold, Dale Parfitt signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:



Gregg wrote:

Behold, Dale Parfitt signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:

Antenna theory, and NEC modeling radically disagree with this- How
many
antennas do you want to see that are not 1/2 wave above a perfect
ground and yet show outstanding directionality?

W4OP


Phased arrays can be made directional. We are talking longwires here.


So am I. The higher a longwire antenna is in terms of wavelength, the
better defined the nulls become; i.e. its directional characteristics
are enhanced. Nothing magical about 1/2 wave above perfectly conducting
ground.
If you can read AO files, I'll be happy to send a file demonstrating
this.

W4OP


Great! I learn something new every day :-)

AO file? I'm sure I can apt-get something to read them (I run Linux).
Fire away!

geek at scorpiorising dot ca

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