"Frank" wrote in message
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Jack ...

^ CW is an unmodulated transmission ...

^ Radioteletype (RTTY and AFSK) also use unmodulated carriers. On HF
^ bands, most use unmodulated Lower Sideband. As with CW, the receiver
^ reinserts the carrier, causing the AF-shifted beat note.

And CW requires only the transceiver and key while the other data types
require another, often more expensive, piece of hardware.


So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a

- Narrower bandwidth. The bandwidth is effectively even narrower because
overlapping adjacent signals can still be distinguished by the human ear.

- Greater effective range.

- Less equipment than other data types, which also have greater
bandwidth.

- Can be used without a microphone and without a key. Just open the box
and
short a couple of contacts.

Frank


Pretty close. Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you
state, you need more hardware such as a computer. In addition each of the
other digital modes has its own unique set of advantages and disadvantages
in on air operation.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 17:05:38 -0400, GeorgeF in rec.radio.scanner -
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wrote:


Well, considering McDonalds isn't set up for paper & pen transactions I would
say that is understandable. How does your ebay business do when your computer
takes a ****?

I do very well because I still (and always will) do a consider amount of
business and sales via more traditional marketing means such as mail and
newspaper/magzine advertising.

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholesaler.com (since edna so badly wants to bring it up)

Blah blah blah, that is all we ever hear from you.

LMAO@U HAhaHAAHAH

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Haw haw haw, sell alot of them there grandfather clocks on ebay?
Only $20 to join your program. I'd be surprised if you have even sold
the first 'dealership".
You are a joke little man. Thanks for the laugh!

So you're a snail mail spammer. An honorable profession. Right up there with
lawyers.


"GeorgeF" wrote in message
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I do very well because I still (and always will) do a consider amount of
business and sales via more traditional marketing means such as mail and
newspaper/magzine advertising.

George
http://www.MilAirComms.com
http://www.AuctionWholesaler.com (since edna so badly wants to bring it
up)

Dee D. Flint ...

^ "Frank" news:01c3873d$fff5f5d0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. .
^ So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a
^ - Narrower bandwidth....
^ - Greater effective range.
^ - Less equipment than other data types, which also
^ have greater bandwidth.
^ - Can be used without a microphone and without a key....

^ Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you
^ state, you need more hardware such as a computer.

That surprises me.

Frank

So what? If all these countires jumped off bridges would that mean we
would be nuts for not jump too?

Spurious analogy.
There is no correlation between the subject of morse code testing
and suicide.



Oh I hope not, I hope the USA never joins the rest of the world. We
don't need a 80, 40, 20, and 15 meter CB bands.

(1) what will you say after 6 months or a year, and the nations you
listed have seen no such degredation in band quality after dropping
the code requirement?

(2) the majority of hams making ham radio code violations on the
HF bands are hams that have had the morse code testing, high
speed testing at that as they are older hams that were tested many
many years ago.

(3) with the rest of the world dropping it, do you really think that
the ham community, with it's growing number of members itching
to ditch the code, WON'T start increasing pressure to the breaking
point to finally ditch the irrelavent and outdated code test
requirement?

The tide's pretty much against you.

God forbid that we have
something happen here far worse than 9/11 which renders Voice
communications useless and we need to go back to basices.

Ah, but the liberals are saying that no such thing will ever happen, that
the REAL threat is the republicans decreasing civil liberty and
crushing freedom here and that terrorism isn't a real threat.

Are you saying they are *wrong*?

Clint

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
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Pretty close. Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you
state, you need more hardware such as a computer. In addition each of the
other digital modes has its own unique set of advantages and disadvantages
in on air operation.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


All good reasons to preform morse code voluntarily.

It's just that it no longer needs to be forced down people's throats
*involuntarily*

Clint
KB5ZHT

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Clint ...

^ (1) what will you say after 6 months or a year, and the
^ nations you listed have seen no such degredation in band
^ quality after dropping the code requirement?

What is their population compared to the U.S.? Do those other countries have
the trouble on the 11 meter band that the U.S. has?

If the code requirement is unnecessary then what about the electronics
knowledge requirement? Is it necessary to know how a transistor functions in
order to operate a two-meter radio? Should we also drop that from testing?
Should the exam be nothing more than a test of the FCC rules? Can you come up
with reasons to drop that also? Someone will, eventually, if we continue to
drop knowledge and ability requirements.


Clint ...
^ It's just that it no longer needs to be forced down
^ people's throats *involuntarily*

But it isn't forced and it isn't involuntary. An Amateur license is something
that is voluntarily sought.

Frank

"Frank" wrote in message
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Dee D. Flint ...

^ "Frank" news:01c3873d$fff5f5d0$0125250a@preimuffyaouanyy.. .
^ So am I still correct that the advantages of CW a
^ - Narrower bandwidth....
^ - Greater effective range.
^ - Less equipment than other data types, which also
^ have greater bandwidth.
^ - Can be used without a microphone and without a key....

^ Some of the other digital modes are narrower but as you
^ state, you need more hardware such as a computer.

That surprises me.

Frank


Well PSK31 is narrower than morse code but the problem with it (according to
our local PSK31 guru) is that because it is narrower, it is hard to find the
PSK31 signals unless you know exactly where to look. I.e. just dialing
around, you easily zoom right past them without ever knowing they are there.
For that reason, I believe they have established calling frequencies in each
band so they can find each other. Plus they use some type of software to
scan and show peaks. I'm not into myself but we have several in the local
club who are.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Edna, you seem to delight in attacking George, a person who has done more
for the scanner hobby than 99% of the folks on here.

What have you done except drop in your vitriolic comments in a "drive by" of
words.

Get a life, and come back when you have contributed something positive to
the hobby!

wrote in message
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Blah blah blah, that is all we ever hear from you.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 12:38:24 -0400, "w4jle" W4JLE(remove this to in rec.radio.scanner - :

Edna, you seem to delight in attacking George, a person who has done more
for the scanner hobby than 99% of the folks on here.

LOL, I see how he helps here. You a big milair fan are ya?

What have you done except drop in your vitriolic comments in a "drive by" of
words.

Made you mad?

Get a life, and come back when you have contributed something positive to
the hobby!

Will do!


wrote in message
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Blah blah blah, that is all we ever hear from you.