Jeff Renkin wrote:

Funny, but most people I hear complaining about the requirement already
learned and passed
the morse code test and are General and Extra license holders.


Strange. That flies in the face of all the available surveys. The General
and higher class operators heavily favor keeping it.

Surveys are never accurate with reality. That is just how unemployed mall
rats who actually talk to telemarketer and clip board survey takers feel.

Of the 15 - 20 ham friends I have, we are all Generals

Are you a General or Extra? I don't see a Jeff Renkin or a Jeffrey Renkin listed at
QRZ. What is your call OM?

Gee, how did I know not to use my real name because some wacko like you would be
looking me up on QRZ to get my address and whatnot. Why were you trying to look me
up? So you could put me on all sorts of mailing lists or come visit my house and
throw eggs at it? Grow up!

Hey, Butthead, I looked you up because you claimed to be either a General or an Extra...
you are neither. So why don't you grow up? As someone else said, if you'd put *half* the
effort into learning the code that you do into whining about it you might actually get
somewhere.

Steve, N8KDV, General Class... look it up Butthead!



We may be forced to give out our callsigns on the ham frequencies but anyone that does
it here is just asking for trouble. Might just as well post your real email
addresses here too while you are at it so you can get lots of spam.

Now instead of trying to find my address so you can pull your pranks, why not read the
rest and learn....

and Extras and ALL
against the morse code requirement. Half of us also hold the GROL commercial
licenses with radar endorsement.

If you know of anyone who is a General or Extra who is for keeping the
requirement, that is because they feel that since they had to do it, everyone
else should have to too. A very childish and selfish emotional reason that is
not based on logic or common sense.

Everyone I know had to take the code test, but we still have sense to know it
was wrong and understood it was only because of the stupid world agreement that
we had to endure it. Now that that excuse no longer applies, everyone is
dropping it. So will the US, but they always have to go through their long
drawn out political ways to make a simple decision take months and years to
finally get something done, even when it is as simple as this. Look how
FAST other governments were able to drop this. Very impressive!

Hey, our ancestors had to own slaves and not allow blacks to use the same rest
rooms and water fountains as whites, so everyone else should have to continue
by those requirements too, right? When we dropped the slavery thing, that
was because people were too lazy to beat slaves and now the world is like
citizens band because we don't have slavery in the US anymore, right?

Yeah, we all had to take the stupid code test. And most of us ended up
forgetting it right after the test because we never used it. We never
intended to use it, but we wanted to use microphones on HF frequencies, so we
had to learn it because of a world agreement. The military dropped code
because there was no world agreement forcing them to keep an outdated
antiquated worthless mode. (the microphone and speaker were since invented,
thus we have telephones in our homes and not telegraphs)

Well, the world finally agreed that the code requirement is silly and dropped
it. But now each country has to do the paperwork to drop it from their
respective country's law books and it is a quick process in efficiently run
countries, but will take months and years in governments like the one in the
USA.

In case you are too slow mentally to realize it, the debates here now are no
longer about if we should keep or drop the requirement, that debate is now over
for good. The new argument is why it is taking the US government so long to
change the wording and text in our laws to reflect the change.

Keeping the requirement when no other country in the world has the requirement
would be even more idiotic than the whole requirement was in the first
place! Surely if you sit and think about that for a while you can see
something as obvious as this.

Then again, you don't even know what the argument is about. You still
think it is about if or not to have the requirement still. It is about the
slowness of the US to change the text of the law.

Obviously it is fact that the requirement will be dropped in the US and every
country in the world (it already has been) it is just a matter of watching
how fast or slow each country's government can rewrite a law if they put effort
into it.

Look how fast the US government could act to change the name of french fries to
freedom fries. They can do it for silly things, why not when it comes to
serious issues?

Billions every month for war against a country that didn't have any WMD just
like they kept saying they didn't, yet not one dollar available for health care
and now more US citizens are without health care and insurance than ever
before.

Yet, knowing and learning morse code is your priority in life. How pathetic.

The last time I used morse code, was decades ago when I had to pass the test at
the FCC field offices a long time ago, never used it once after that. Talk
about lazy, YOU probably only had to receive and recognize a few words and
select a multiple choice answer. We didn't have it that easy, but we don't
start whining that all of you should have to do it the hard way just because we
had to, we realize it is a silly and ridiculous requirement and NO one should
have to take it unless they intend to USE morse code on the bands.

In the later case, even those using 2-meters should have to learn it if they
intend to use it there.
Only makes sense. Something many of you know nothing about.

Steve, N8KDV, General Class... look it up Butthead!

Yeah, we all are supposed to believe that a 50 year old man is going to use phrases like
"butthead" and call names like a school child. Next time steal an identity that is closer
to your age.

It also loses credibility for you to tell other people to learn code, when you pose as a
General who is too lazy to learn and get his Extra class license.

Now that you only have to know 5 wpm to upgrade to Extra which a General would already have
credit for, what is keeping you from upgrading?? Perhaps the questions are too hard for
you. Those are things you should know before operating a transmitter, not morse code.

Hey, if I go find someone else's call sign like you did and post under that, will I then
have the great credibility that you have on this newsgroup to all those gullible enough to
believe that a 50 year old is going to use phrases like "butthead"?

Jeff Renkin wrote:

Steve, N8KDV, General Class... look it up Butthead!

Yeah, we all are supposed to believe that a 50 year old man is going to use phrases like
"butthead" and call names like a school child. Next time steal an identity that is closer
to your age.

It also loses credibility for you to tell other people to learn code, when you pose as a
General who is too lazy to learn and get his Extra class license.

Now that you only have to know 5 wpm to upgrade to Extra which a General would already have
credit for, what is keeping you from upgrading?? Perhaps the questions are too hard for
you. Those are things you should know before operating a transmitter, not morse code.

Hey, if I go find someone else's call sign like you did and post under that, will I then
have the great credibility that you have on this newsgroup to all those gullible enough to
believe that a 50 year old is going to use phrases like "butthead"?

Yep, I'm 50 years young Butthead. Nice try. I guess I could upgrade, but why? I rarely get on
the air. But if I did, I'd be operating some CW. You on the other hand don't even have the
opportunity, why?, because you're to damn busy shooting off your mouth. Get to studying!

Jeff Renkin wrote:

Steve, N8KDV, General Class... look it up Butthead!

Yeah, we all are supposed to believe that a 50 year old man is going to use phrases like
"butthead" and call names like a school child. Next time steal an identity that is closer
to your age.

It also loses credibility for you to tell other people to learn code, when you pose as a
General who is too lazy to learn and get his Extra class license.

Pose? Come on Butthead, you can do better than that. If I'm 'posing' (as you are), then someone
better do the right thing and contact the 'real' N8KDV as sonn as possible. LMAO



Now that you only have to know 5 wpm to upgrade to Extra which a General would already have
credit for, what is keeping you from upgrading?? Perhaps the questions are too hard for
you. Those are things you should know before operating a transmitter, not morse code.

Hey, if I go find someone else's call sign like you did and post under that, will I then
have the great credibility that you have on this newsgroup to all those gullible enough to
believe that a 50 year old is going to use phrases like "butthead"?