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Old September 30th 03, 02:21 PM
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FCC COMMISSIONER KATHLEEN Q. ABERNATHY SEES BROADBAND-OVER-
POWERLINE TECHNOLOGY AS A COMPONENT OF "BROADBAND NIRVANA"


On September 22, 2003, FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy
delivered a speech to the United PowerLine Council's Annual
Conference in which she heavily promoted broadband-over-powerline
("BPL") technology. Rarely has an FCC Commissioner presented
such a one-sided address, not mentioning the likelihood that BPL
will cause massive interference to licensed radio services.
Ms. Abernathy's entire speech (as prepared for delivery) and a
summary of the response of one organization are posted at:


http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc
and
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/09/25/100/?nc=1


A BBC R&D White Paper entitled, "The Effects of Power-Line
Telecommunications on Broadcast Reception: Brief Trial in Crieff"
is available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp067.html.

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Old September 30th 03, 04:35 PM
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She needs some major mental ex-lax to clear her mind.
"David" wrote in message
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FCC COMMISSIONER KATHLEEN Q. ABERNATHY SEES BROADBAND-OVER-
POWERLINE TECHNOLOGY AS A COMPONENT OF "BROADBAND NIRVANA"


On September 22, 2003, FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy
delivered a speech to the United PowerLine Council's Annual
Conference in which she heavily promoted broadband-over-powerline
("BPL") technology. Rarely has an FCC Commissioner presented
such a one-sided address, not mentioning the likelihood that BPL
will cause massive interference to licensed radio services.
Ms. Abernathy's entire speech (as prepared for delivery) and a
summary of the response of one organization are posted at:


http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc
and
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/09/25/100/?nc=1


A BBC R&D White Paper entitled, "The Effects of Power-Line
Telecommunications on Broadcast Reception: Brief Trial in Crieff"
is available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp067.html.

(CGC Communicator articles may be reproduced in any form
provided they are unaltered and credit is given to the CGC
Communicator and the originating authors, when named. Past
issues may be viewed and searched at http://www.bext.com/_CGC/
courtesy of Bext Corporation. )



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Old September 30th 03, 06:43 PM
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"David" wrote in message
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FCC COMMISSIONER KATHLEEN Q. ABERNATHY SEES BROADBAND-OVER-
POWERLINE TECHNOLOGY AS A COMPONENT OF "BROADBAND NIRVANA"


On September 22, 2003, FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy
delivered a speech to the United PowerLine Council's Annual
Conference in which she heavily promoted broadband-over-powerline
("BPL") technology. Rarely has an FCC Commissioner presented
such a one-sided address, not mentioning the likelihood that BPL
will cause massive interference to licensed radio services.
Ms. Abernathy's entire speech (as prepared for delivery) and a
summary of the response of one organization are posted at:


http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc
and
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/09/25/100/?nc=1


[snip]

Is broadband itself worth gushing over? Around here, broadband is supposed
to be 10 times faster at maybe twice the price. On paper, broadband looks
like a pretty good deal compared to two line setup in which one line is used
mostly for dial-up. Still, dial-up is doing quite well. Dial-up suits me
fine, at least for now.

So, just what is broadband nirvana?

Frank Dresser





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Old September 30th 03, 06:58 PM
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Ain't that the self-service robbery ? Just walk up, stuff wheel barrow loads
of money in it and go back to get some more ...


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Old September 30th 03, 11:28 PM
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http://www.fcc.gov/commissioners/abernathy/mail.html


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David wrote:

FCC COMMISSIONER KATHLEEN Q. ABERNATHY SEES BROADBAND-OVER-
POWERLINE TECHNOLOGY AS A COMPONENT OF "BROADBAND NIRVANA"


Anyone got her ( personal on the job) e-mail address ? ;')
.
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Old October 1st 03, 12:08 AM
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:43:12 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


So, just what is broadband nirvana?


It's appeal is mostly for high graphics content websites (porn) and
newsgroup binaries (porn, Software, MP3's) which BTW have all largely
fueled the growth of the Internet.

This is not to say broadband is its own right is a bad thing. In some
areas such as Vermont, local calls are expensive. Here broadband
widely apeals because it costs the same as dialup when you add in
local call charges to link to the ISP.

mike
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Old October 1st 03, 01:39 AM
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Frank Dresser wrote:


"David" wrote in message
...
FCC COMMISSIONER KATHLEEN Q. ABERNATHY SEES BROADBAND-OVER-
POWERLINE TECHNOLOGY AS A COMPONENT OF "BROADBAND NIRVANA"


On September 22, 2003, FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy
delivered a speech to the United PowerLine Council's Annual
Conference in which she heavily promoted broadband-over-powerline
("BPL") technology. Rarely has an FCC Commissioner presented
such a one-sided address, not mentioning the likelihood that BPL
will cause massive interference to licensed radio services.
Ms. Abernathy's entire speech (as prepared for delivery) and a
summary of the response of one organization are posted at:


http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc
and
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/09/25/100/?nc=1


[snip]

Is broadband itself worth gushing over? Around here, broadband is supposed
to be 10 times faster at maybe twice the price. On paper, broadband looks
like a pretty good deal compared to two line setup in which one line is used
mostly for dial-up. Still, dial-up is doing quite well. Dial-up suits me
fine, at least for now.

So, just what is broadband nirvana?


Hollywood sewage at 5 times its current speed into every room of your
home 24/7! Profitable yes, but desirable? It reminds me of a cartoon of
a couple watching HDTV and the guy says "It's still 500 channels of
trash" and the woman responds "Yeah, but look at how well it comes in!".


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Old October 1st 03, 02:29 AM
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:39:06 -0500, tommyknocker wrote
(in message ):

Frank Dresser wrote:


"David" wrote in message
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FCC COMMISSIONER KATHLEEN Q. ABERNATHY SEES BROADBAND-OVER-
POWERLINE TECHNOLOGY AS A COMPONENT OF "BROADBAND NIRVANA"


On September 22, 2003, FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy
delivered a speech to the United PowerLine Council's Annual
Conference in which she heavily promoted broadband-over-powerline
("BPL") technology. Rarely has an FCC Commissioner presented
such a one-sided address, not mentioning the likelihood that BPL
will cause massive interference to licensed radio services.
Ms. Abernathy's entire speech (as prepared for delivery) and a
summary of the response of one organization are posted at:


http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc
and
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/09/25/100/?nc=1


[snip]

Is broadband itself worth gushing over? Around here, broadband is supposed
to be 10 times faster at maybe twice the price. On paper, broadband looks
like a pretty good deal compared to two line setup in which one line is
used
mostly for dial-up. Still, dial-up is doing quite well. Dial-up suits me
fine, at least for now.

So, just what is broadband nirvana?


Hollywood sewage at 5 times its current speed into every room of your
home 24/7! Profitable yes, but desirable? It reminds me of a cartoon of
a couple watching HDTV and the guy says "It's still 500 channels of
trash" and the woman responds "Yeah, but look at how well it comes in!".



That's an update on:

First Person: "The food here is so horrible."
Second Person: "And the portions are so small."



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"mike" wrote in message
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It's appeal is mostly for high graphics content websites (porn) and
newsgroup binaries (porn, Software, MP3's) which BTW have all largely
fueled the growth of the Internet.

This is not to say broadband is its own right is a bad thing. In some
areas such as Vermont, local calls are expensive. Here broadband
widely apeals because it costs the same as dialup when you add in
local call charges to link to the ISP.

mike



Yeah, right now, it seems broadband doesn't become really attractive until
it gets price competitive with dial-up.


The "Broadband Nirvana" comment reminded me of a silly article I read which
claimed the high tech recession was due to old fashioned regulation holding
back broadband access. Maybe regulation was holding back the manufacturers
and suppliers in the broadband industry, but, as I remember, he also implied
that the US economy really needed broadband somehow. He wasn't specific as
to how. It just did.

The FCC commissioners are taking that tone, as well. Broadband must be ten
times better than dial-up because -- well, just because. And the
commissioners won't be caught roadblocking the future.

But right now, for lots of people, the internet works just fine with
dial-up. They won't contribute ten times as much to the economy with
broadband. They won't be ten times as entertained. The connection sits
idle most of the time, anyway. Broadband won't be a necessity until there's
something better than the usual e-mail, chat rooms and lite internet surfing
people do.

In a way, it looks similiar to the way most of the new UHF TV and FM radio
stations struggled in the early 50s. There was a huge increase in
bandwidth, but there was little extra to fill it with. People got what they
wanted from their AM radios and VHF TVs. It took about 25 years before the
extra bandwidth was filled.

I was at the library and found a book called "SST here it comes - ready or
not!" So I checked it out. Figured it would be good for a laugh, at least.
Actually it was a pretty good book. The author was an avation writer who
gave a good accounting of the SST debate of 1969 or so. Of course, we
abandoned the American SST program, and it didn't matter much. Few
travellers wanted to pay the extra price to go faster.

Frank Dresser


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Dateline "rec.radio.shortwave", Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:43:12 GMT: As it
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"Frank Dresser" appears to have written
the following...


"David" wrote in message
...
FCC COMMISSIONER KATHLEEN Q. ABERNATHY SEES BROADBAND-OVER-
POWERLINE TECHNOLOGY AS A COMPONENT OF "BROADBAND NIRVANA"


On September 22, 2003, FCC Commissioner Kathleen Abernathy
delivered a speech to the United PowerLine Council's Annual
Conference in which she heavily promoted broadband-over-powerline
("BPL") technology. Rarely has an FCC Commissioner presented
such a one-sided address, not mentioning the likelihood that BPL
will cause massive interference to licensed radio services.
Ms. Abernathy's entire speech (as prepared for delivery) and a
summary of the response of one organization are posted at:


http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-239079A1.doc
and
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/09/25/100/?nc=1


[snip]

Is broadband itself worth gushing over? Around here, broadband is
supposed to be 10 times faster at maybe twice the price. On paper,
broadband looks like a pretty good deal compared to two line setup in
which one line is used mostly for dial-up. Still, dial-up is doing
quite well. Dial-up suits me fine, at least for now.

So, just what is broadband nirvana?

Frank Dresser


Being able to telecommute from home without your connection to a
development server or database timing-out. I actually require it in
order to do what I need to do.

I get cable broadband access for $20/month. Normally, it's $25, but I
have my own cable modem and don't pay the monthly rental fee. Last time
I had dialup, $20/month would have been a competitive rate - I'm not
sure what the average dial-up rate is today.

I would also feel quite safe in guessing that, for the vast majority of
people, dial-up would suffice if you were talking about the minimum
bandwidth needed to perform the task (email, web-surfing, etc). The
problem is "impatience" on the part of he general public (they want that
page to open NOW!) and the desire for a more "content rich" internet
experience from those pushing content as well as those pulling content.
You could most likely define "content rich" as one or more of the
following:
- MP3 Sharing
- Multimedia
- Bigger/Better/Badder Ads
- Porn

Speaking of which, wasn't Porn attributed to having a large influence on
the success of VHS over Beta?

There's some interesting things that *could* be done with a decent
broadband connection (like smooth, undistorted voice and video "phone
calls" to family) except that broadband is never all it's cracked up to
be. It does no good to have a gigabit fiber-to-the-desktop connection if
somewhere between your PC and the other end is a 300 baud phone
coupler...

There's good and bad in most things...

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