FO&A,

Update for both these "On-the-Ground" and "Near-the-Ground" type of
Antennas it is better to use a "Heavy" Insulated Wire like Landscaping
Lighting Cable.

Landscaping Lighting Cable is a type of Heavy Duty Electical "Zip
Cord" (two conductors) has a thicker and stronger black rubberized
plastic insulation that is designed to be used outside in the weather
and/or on/under the ground.

It can be simply used as is in: parallel (dual) antenna elements;
series folded
single antenna elements.

The two conductors can be separate into two single wires and
configured into any shape or form of ground level antenna that fits
your needs.
- - - A 200 Foot Loop Antenna on the Fence ?

Landscaping Lighting Cable is available at Home Depot, Lowes, ACE,
etc.

Landscaping Lighting Cable comes in 50Ft and 100Ft lengths.

Landscaping Lighting Cable also Works for Hidden "On-the-Fence"
Antennas Too !
- - - Where this heavier wire can be supported.

Landscaping Lighting Cable is NOT recommended where the the Antenna
Wire is going to be suspended up in the air due to its heavier weight.

iane ~ RHF
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Pierre,

Here are two Ground Level (Hidden) Antennas to consider.

* * * SNAKE ANTENNA:

Here is a short sample "Snake Antenna" Reading List:
http://www.kc7nod.20m.com/snake.htm
http://lists.contesting.com/_topband.../msg00302.html
http://atanasoff.rf.org/pipermail/ta...99/001042.html
http://dayton.akorn.net/pipermail/cq...ry/001596.html
http://www.qsl.net/ve3mcf/elecraft_r...enna_Snake.txt

Down To Earth Antennas = Outdoor Antennas Forbidden? Go for the Snake
!
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...al/swlant.html
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...ial/snake1.gif
http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx...ial/snake2.gif

* * * GRASSWIRE ANTENNA:
The GRASSWIRE another approach to hidden HF antennas by K3MT
http://users.erols.com/k3mt/graswire/graswire.htm
- - - This is a 'shorter' length antenna element with counterpoises to
give it some directivity.


OBTW: A 'copy' of the original Message and this Reply will be posted
on the "SWL Antennas and AM & FM Antennas" eGroup on YAHOO !
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM-FM-Antenna/


iane ~ RHF
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Will a shortwave longwire antenna work if it is laid on the ground or does
it have to be hung in the air from a tree or something similar?

Thanks for your input.

Pierre