Romans 9:11-13

(for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or
evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not
of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her, "The older shall
serve the younger." As it is written, "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I
have hated."


Romans 9:17-22

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have
raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may
be declared in all the earth." Therefore He has mercy on whom He
wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, "Why
does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?" But indeed,
O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to
him who formed it, "Why have you made me like this?" Does not the
potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel
for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His
wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the
vessels of wrath prepared for destruction...

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:30:04 -0500, Preacher wrote
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Romans 9:11-13

(for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or
evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not
of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her, "The older shall
serve the younger." As it is written, "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I
have hated."


This so-called god of you and yourin doesn't seem very mature. Was this
verse, perhaps, mutated by those folks who spoke Latin. Ya know, like "Romans
911". You do your own translations from the Hebrew (and that god) and the
Greek (and that god)?




Romans 9:17-22

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have
raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may
be declared in all the earth."

Ah, yes, "pride". There has been a lot of problems with those gods who came
from the Near and Middle East and Northern Africa. The ones from Italy and
Greece have been, especially, a mite bit too arrogant. Did you know that the
Governor-Elect of California used to be Hercules? I know it's true because I
saw it on teevee and read it on the Internet.


Therefore He has mercy on whom He
wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, "Why
does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?" But indeed,
O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to
him who formed it, "Why have you made me like this?" Does not the
potter

As in "Harry Potter"?

have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel
for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His
wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the
vessels of wrath prepared for destruction...


Then I'd give him a C+ for patience but a F- for creating such a screwy world
with cancer and religious wars and an overall, general run of the mill nasty
business.

All in all, not much improvement over the Latin gods, the Greek gods, the
Norse gods and the large number of other gods filed under "miscellaneous".


Gray
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Who doesn't have a contender.

"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies." (Friedrich
Wilhelm Nietzsche, Human, All-too-Human)

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Date: 14 Oct 2003 16:30:04 -0700
Subject: Will God Have Mercy On You?

Romans 9:11-13

(for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or
evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not
of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her, "The older shall
serve the younger." As it is written, "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I
have hated."


Romans 9:17-22

For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have
raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may
be declared in all the earth." Therefore He has mercy on whom He
wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, "Why
does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?" But indeed,
O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to
him who formed it, "Why have you made me like this?" Does not the
potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel
for honor and another for dishonor? What if God, wanting to show His
wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the
vessels of wrath prepared for destruction...