In rec.radio.scanner Dee D. Flint wrote:

: Contact the ARRL. They have data that shows that antennas have NO impact on
: property values. They also have data showing that, in general, property
: values are rising faster in areas without CCRs & HOAs than in areas with
: them.

I find that hard to believe. Do you really mean to say that a ham with 15
or 20 different antennas and two towers does *nothing* to the property
values of the houses next door?

Richard in Boston, MA, USA
N1JDU

Richard G Amirault wrote:

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I find that hard to believe. Do you really mean to say that a ham with 15
or 20 different antennas and two towers does *nothing* to the property
values of the houses next door?

Richard in Boston, MA, USA
N1JDU

Yep! He's right!

Go to city hall and ask Mayor Menino if you can get an abatement based
on depeciated value caused by your neighbor's ham antennas. After he
stops laughing ... [you fill in the rest].

I sold my home in Danvers [a Boston suburb for non Bostonians] for $20K
above real estate appraised market evaluation/value of $270K while I had
a Tennadyne T8 [8 element log periodic --- 13 to 33 MHz], a center fed
doublet with open wire feeders, and a 2 meter vertical on top of a 45
foot tower in the back yard. The house sold on first day on market. [The
Danvers Ham community, W1ZH, K1LQX and others, will gladly confirm the
antenna farm].

The buyer's requested assurance that the antenna and tower would be
removed prior to passing papers. My response "Of course!"

Deacon Dave, W1MCE

"Dave Shrader" wrote in message
news:m9wyb.372045$Tr4.1101837@attbi_s03...

The buyer's requested assurance that the antenna and tower would be
removed prior to passing papers. My response "Of course!"

So here we have:

1: The people did not want the antennas.

2: It's more like "**** my neighbor. If he is selling his home and can't
get a buyer due to my antennas, that's his problem."

Midwest Kid wrote:
"Dave Shrader" wrote in message
news:m9wyb.372045$Tr4.1101837@attbi_s03...

The buyer's requested assurance that the antenna and tower would be
removed prior to passing papers. My response "Of course!"


So here we have:

1: The people did not want the antennas.

Stop taking a position OUT of Context. The new owners were/are not hams.
But the tower and antennas are in my new backyard.

Restated, the tower had NO IMPACT on the selling price of the property!
The property sold based on LOCATION. I had lived there for 38+ years
prior to sale. BTW, the home across the street and the home next door
also sold for above market value.


2: It's more like "**** my neighbor.

Your vulgarisms are not appreciated in my house and hopefully other
homes. Get the emotion out of your argument and please present your case
on facts using civil language. Remember this group is read by men,
women, and possibly children.

Deacon Dave [Reverend], W1MCE

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"Richard G Amirault" wrote in message
...

I find that hard to believe. Do you really mean to say that a ham with 15
or 20 different antennas and two towers does *nothing* to the property
values of the houses next door?

That's what hams want you to believe. They are right of course. Lets say
your home is worth $175K before the tower. Then you try to sell your home.
You get no _offers_ because of that antenna field next door. Therefore you
cannot _prove_ that the value of your home went down. Hams are an elite
group of people like others. I find it hard to believe that a ham selling
their home would leave the antennas up while showing the home. Even if they
are going to toss them, any realtor is going to tell the person to take them
down.

NO the realtor did not make any recommendation regarding the antennas at
my home. [See previous posts same subject]. The antennas were up and
operating until 1 week before the movers came and bank closing.

You are still making generalizations that are not factual. Please give
the name, city and circumstances of those realtors who say 'take them
down prior to sale'.

You persist in making generalizations that are not supported by facts.

W1MCE

Midwest Kid wrote:

"Richard G Amirault" wrote in message
...

I find that hard to believe. Do you really mean to say that a ham with 15
or 20 different antennas and two towers does *nothing* to the property
values of the houses next door?


That's what hams want you to believe. They are right of course. Lets say
your home is worth $175K before the tower. Then you try to sell your home.
You get no _offers_ because of that antenna field next door. Therefore you
cannot _prove_ that the value of your home went down. Hams are an elite
group of people like others. I find it hard to believe that a ham selling
their home would leave the antennas up while showing the home. Even if they
are going to toss them, any realtor is going to tell the person to take them
down.

"Midwest Kid" wrote in message
news:XJAyb.270855$275.965396@attbi_s53...

"Richard G Amirault" wrote in message
...

I find that hard to believe. Do you really mean to say that a ham with
15
or 20 different antennas and two towers does *nothing* to the property
values of the houses next door?

That's what hams want you to believe. They are right of course. Lets say
your home is worth $175K before the tower. Then you try to sell your
home.
You get no _offers_ because of that antenna field next door. Therefore
you
cannot _prove_ that the value of your home went down. Hams are an elite
group of people like others. I find it hard to believe that a ham selling
their home would leave the antennas up while showing the home. Even if
they
are going to toss them, any realtor is going to tell the person to take
them
down.


He didn't when I showed my other house prior to buying
this one.


Jerry

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 00:21:24 +0000 (UTC), Richard G Amirault
wrote:

In rec.radio.scanner Dee D. Flint wrote:

: Contact the ARRL. They have data that shows that antennas have NO impact on
: property values. They also have data showing that, in general, property
: values are rising faster in areas without CCRs & HOAs than in areas with
: them.

I find that hard to believe. Do you really mean to say that a ham with 15
or 20 different antennas and two towers does *nothing* to the property
values of the houses next door?

Now that is one of those open ended questions and gets an "it all
depends" for an answer.

If you mean an installation such as
http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/Tower30.htm
The answer is no. In the photo there are beams for 20, 15, 10(1),
6(1), 2(2), and 440(2) for a total of 6. plus two verticals for 144
and 440 and a multi band vertical on a 32 foot tower for 9. Then
wire antennas for 75 (2) and 40 (1) for 12. Then three dishes for
satellite and microwave for 15 and two UHF TV antennas for a total of
17. It's not figured in the evaluation of our property as either a
plus or minus.

It's a rural subdivision that is heavily wooded. Except for a couple
of back yards and a corner lot the system is not readily visible. Yet
from half a mile away it stands out readily, being well above the tree
line. The house to the south just sold with nary a question as to the
antennas.

When I first installed the top mast one neighbor asked about it
falling over. We measured the distance and he was well outside the
radius. Plus they now call it the neighbor hood lightening rod as they
have seen it get hit at least twice while they were sitting in their
family room watching a storm. They also watch to see what we do when
the weather gets bad and have the local repeater on their scanner.

Nothing else in the neighborhood has been struck since I put it up.

You'll have to fix the return add due to dumb virus checkers, not spam
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair?)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Richard in Boston, MA, USA
N1JDU