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Kevin Croxen December 4th 03 03:34 PM

Kaito WRX-911 quality control issues?
 
Anybody else had a quality control problem with those new Kaito WRX-911
models?

I just wanted something small, inexpensive, and light that I could carry in
my jacket pocket and listen to while walking to and from work, and picked a
Kaito WRX-911 in preference to a Grundig Mini-World 100 PE for this purpose
based on the comparative review on radiointel.com

But the Kaito arrived partly DOA, with some sort of intermittent connection
problem in the RF circuitry for AM MW that renders that one band unusable.
Worse, since I bought it from radios4you.com, who do not accept returns under
any circumstances, the brand-new radio, after its initial inspection and
before being used, needs to be launched directly at the warranty service
department at kaitousa.com

So now I'm just curious. Anyone else had troubles with these new Kaito
WRX-911's? Conversely, has anyone had problems out-of-the-box with the
equivalent Grundig Min-World 100 PE's ?

Regards,

--Kevin

Kevin Croxen December 4th 03 05:11 PM

In article , Kevin Croxen wrote:
Anybody else had a quality control problem with those new Kaito WRX-911
models?

I just wanted something small, inexpensive, and light that I could carry in
my jacket pocket and listen to while walking to and from work, and picked a
Kaito WRX-911 in preference to a Grundig Mini-World 100 PE for this purpose
based on the comparative review on radiointel.com

But the Kaito arrived partly DOA, with some sort of intermittent connection
problem in the RF circuitry for AM MW that renders that one band unusable.
Worse, since I bought it from radios4you.com, who do not accept returns under
any circumstances, the brand-new radio, after its initial inspection and
before being used, needs to be launched directly at the warranty service
department at kaitousa.com

So now I'm just curious. Anyone else had troubles with these new Kaito
WRX-911's? Conversely, has anyone had problems out-of-the-box with the
equivalent Grundig Min-World 100 PE's ?

Regards,

--Kevin


As a correction to the preceding, I have just been sternly informed over the
phone that I misinterpreted the paragraph on the web page
http://www.radios4you.com/payment.html that begins "All Sales Final. Sorry we
do not offer a satisfaction warranty and do not accept returns." I am
informed that my statement that radios4you.com does not accept returns "under
any circumstances" is incorrect, and that they will in fact accept a return
of the particular radio I purchased for a refund.

I apologize for the "under any circumstances" that I evidently incorrectly
adduced from the information on http://www.radios4you.com/payment.htm and
thank radios4you.com for their willingness to accept the return of this
particular Kaito-WRX-911 for a refund at the loss to the merchant of the
original $4.00 priority mail fee for shipping.


But now that all that is done, to return to the original query: has anyone
else had particular quality control problems with the Kaito WRX-911, and are
the equivalent Grundig Mini World 100 PE's known to have any particular
quality-control issues?

--Kevin

reliccastiron December 4th 03 07:34 PM


"Kevin Croxen" wrote in message
u...
Anybody else had a quality control problem with those new Kaito WRX-911
models?


First one question: Do the words "Made in China" appear anywhere
on this radio? If the product does have those '3 words' imprinted
anyplace on it, then quality control is out the window. The purpose of
Chinese electronics factories is to mass produce consumer goods
for the lowest cost on the planet. As a result, and as the old sage
goes: "You get exactly what you pay for". Remember when the
words "Made in Japan" and "Made in Hong Kong" was a subliminal
warning that the product so marked was of shoddy and/or cheap
manufacturer? This is what "Made in China" represents today.

Perhaps in a few Years with the importation of better tooling
materials, procedures, facilities this will go away. For now I would
avoid ANYTHING that runs off of electricity and comes from the PRC.
Take a look for example at all the product recalls listed at www.cpsc.gov
You will see that 70% of the items listed for recall came from China.

This should tell everyone something. Check those labels folks before
you trade your money for "new-in-the-box-JUNK".


tommyknocker December 4th 03 11:01 PM

reliccastiron wrote:


"Kevin Croxen" wrote in message
u...
Anybody else had a quality control problem with those new Kaito WRX-911
models?


First one question: Do the words "Made in China" appear anywhere
on this radio? If the product does have those '3 words' imprinted
anyplace on it, then quality control is out the window. The purpose of
Chinese electronics factories is to mass produce consumer goods
for the lowest cost on the planet. As a result, and as the old sage
goes: "You get exactly what you pay for". Remember when the
words "Made in Japan" and "Made in Hong Kong" was a subliminal
warning that the product so marked was of shoddy and/or cheap
manufacturer? This is what "Made in China" represents today.

Perhaps in a few Years with the importation of better tooling
materials, procedures, facilities this will go away. For now I would
avoid ANYTHING that runs off of electricity and comes from the PRC.
Take a look for example at all the product recalls listed at www.cpsc.gov
You will see that 70% of the items listed for recall came from China.

This should tell everyone something. Check those labels folks before
you trade your money for "new-in-the-box-JUNK".


Yes, Kaito is one of a number of Chinese companies that have entered the
SW radio market in the past year. If the quality control curve of the
Grundig Satellit 800 (aka Tecsun Ham 2000) is any indication, it'll take
a few years to iron out all the QC bugs.



WShoots1 December 5th 03 05:38 AM

All three $20 AM/FM/SW jWINs I bought worked fine out of the box -- and are
still working.

Bill, K5BY

Diverd4777 December 5th 03 12:27 PM

Have a Jwin JX - M-14;

It's so good on batteries I use it as an FM radio
running the signal through spare computer speakers.
The Plastic square covering the Digital Display is not crystal clear;
- however, aside from a bit of overload occasionally
( Expected in a $15 radio)
I have no complaints

Dan


In article ,
(WShoots1) writes:

All three $20 AM/FM/SW jWINs I bought worked fine out of the box -- and are
still working.

Bill, K5BY




EdT December 5th 03 03:41 PM

My WRX911 worked fine out of the box, but then again a sign of poor quality
control is that occasionally a good one gets through!
"Diverd4777" wrote in message
...
Have a Jwin JX - M-14;

It's so good on batteries I use it as an FM radio
running the signal through spare computer speakers.
The Plastic square covering the Digital Display is not crystal clear;
- however, aside from a bit of overload occasionally
( Expected in a $15 radio)
I have no complaints

Dan


In article ,


(WShoots1) writes:

All three $20 AM/FM/SW jWINs I bought worked fine out of the box -- and

are
still working.

Bill, K5BY






Kevin Croxen December 5th 03 04:50 PM



An interesting possibility that hadn't occurred to me. But I notice that the
radiointel.com review underlines the JX-M14's selectivity issues, while in
size (I can't find its precise dimensions) it would appear and in the review
is described to be perhaps even a bit larger than the heavy-ish '80s-vintage
Emerson PSW4010 mini-portable that I have continued to carry around in my
briefcase for use at work. Is the JX-M14 beyond shirt or jacket pocket size
for the outdoor walking commute?

--Kevin

In article , Diverd4777 wrote:
Have a Jwin JX - M-14;

It's so good on batteries I use it as an FM radio
running the signal through spare computer speakers.
The Plastic square covering the Digital Display is not crystal clear;
- however, aside from a bit of overload occasionally
( Expected in a $15 radio)
I have no complaints

Dan


In article ,
(WShoots1) writes:

All three $20 AM/FM/SW jWINs I bought worked fine out of the box -- and are
still working.

Bill, K5BY




Diverd4777 December 5th 03 06:16 PM

In article , Kevin Croxen
writes:

. Is the JX-M14 beyond shirt or jacket pocket size
for the outdoor walking commute?

--Kevin


Yep! I
put it in my shirt pocket & take it walking, bicycling, etc...

4 1/2 X ~3 X 1

I actually got a bunch of shirts with Two pockets sos I can trek it around,..
It is NOT ( I repeat, NOT) as good a radio as the
Sangean 606A;
- But it's lighter & smaller !!
Probaly work in Damp weather in a Ziplock Baggie
It's Digital tuning display is Very Useful..


Kevin Croxen December 5th 03 08:20 PM

In article , Diverd4777 wrote:
In article , Kevin Croxen
writes:

. Is the JX-M14 beyond shirt or jacket pocket size
for the outdoor walking commute?

--Kevin


Yep! I
put it in my shirt pocket & take it walking, bicycling, etc...

4 1/2 X ~3 X 1

I actually got a bunch of shirts with Two pockets sos I can trek it around,..
It is NOT ( I repeat, NOT) as good a radio as the
Sangean 606A;
- But it's lighter & smaller !!
Probaly work in Damp weather in a Ziplock Baggie
It's Digital tuning display is Very Useful..


Ah! About an inch and a half shorter than little old Emerson. And probably
about a third of the weight. Thanks for the information!

Regards,

--Kevin

WShoots1 December 6th 03 04:34 AM

It's so good on batteries I use it as an FM radio

Me, too. I carry mine around the house and yard, when I'm busy with this and
that. Also, I use for batteries those that no longer work in my memory-equipped
radios. G

I have no problem, though, reading the digital dispplay, although I see its
transparent covering is becoming slightly discolored.

The other two I gave to my local teenage grandson and the teenage girl next
door, along with a huge notebook, each, of organized SWL and SW station info.

Bill, K5BY

WShoots1 December 6th 03 04:42 AM

I wrote that Intel piece, Kevin. I'd already made one revision to it. I noticed
later, though, that the physical description I gave was a poor guesstimate.

One thing I've noticed about mine now is that the tuning is getting a little
sloppy mechanically. But I've done a lot of surfing and band switching since
I'd had it. It's almost become my prime radio. Someday, I'll look inside and
see if there is just something loose that can be tightened. Electrically it's
still good. The tuning almost seems like backlash.

My favorite pocket portable, though, is my Grundig eTR7.

Bill, K5BY

Altawaowr December 6th 03 07:10 AM

I have a blue WRX911 and it's a great radio. It's very sensitive. I
could get all kinds of stations with it when I took it camping last
summer. The quality seemed really high to me, it's solid. It is
better than the little sangean portable they had a few years back that
was fragile like a wine glass. The speaker is really good too with
audible speech.


On 4 Dec 2003 15:34:02 GMT, Kevin Croxen
wrote:

Anybody else had a quality control problem with those new Kaito WRX-911
models?

I just wanted something small, inexpensive, and light that I could carry in
my jacket pocket and listen to while walking to and from work, and picked a
Kaito WRX-911 in preference to a Grundig Mini-World 100 PE for this purpose
based on the comparative review on radiointel.com

But the Kaito arrived partly DOA, with some sort of intermittent connection
problem in the RF circuitry for AM MW that renders that one band unusable.
Worse, since I bought it from radios4you.com, who do not accept returns under
any circumstances, the brand-new radio, after its initial inspection and
before being used, needs to be launched directly at the warranty service
department at kaitousa.com

So now I'm just curious. Anyone else had troubles with these new Kaito
WRX-911's? Conversely, has anyone had problems out-of-the-box with the
equivalent Grundig Min-World 100 PE's ?

Regards,

--Kevin



Diverd4777 December 6th 03 01:31 PM

In article ,
(WShoots1) writes:


The other two I gave to my local teenage grandson and the teenage girl next
door, along with a huge notebook, each, of organized SWL and SW station info.

Bill, K5BY


AHA! Great Present for the kid who has everything . .. !

WShoots1 December 7th 03 04:53 AM

AHA! Great Present for the kid who has everything . .. !

That, too. G

Bill, K5BY

Kevin Croxen December 9th 03 04:08 PM

In article , WShoots1 wrote:
I wrote that Intel piece, Kevin. I'd already made one revision to it. I noticed
later, though, that the physical description I gave was a poor guesstimate.

One thing I've noticed about mine now is that the tuning is getting a little
sloppy mechanically. But I've done a lot of surfing and band switching since
I'd had it. It's almost become my prime radio. Someday, I'll look inside and
see if there is just something loose that can be tightened. Electrically it's
still good. The tuning almost seems like backlash.

My favorite pocket portable, though, is my Grundig eTR7.

Bill, K5BY


A nice and informative review.

Been doing very little other than shovelling snow the last 3 days. Even got
to help hand-shovel out a stuck snowplow --gosh I love New England! But, when
the sidewalks are walkable again this week I'll make a side-trip to the local
RadioShack, brave the swarm of cellular service salesmen, who at least don't
yell in my ear over the phone, and check out the low-end pocket-size
Grundigs.

The goal remains a reasonable and inexpensive shortwave-capable receiver in
my pocket for the daily walk to work and back. My '80s vintage Emerson, and
equally old Soviet-made Rossiia 303 are not small or light enough to fill the
bill for a walking commute. Back at home, I just tend to listen to whichever
old Halli I've most recently restored or been working on. Nowadays it's the
SX-96.


Best,

--Kevin

Kevin Croxen December 9th 03 04:13 PM

In article , Altawaowr wrote:
I have a blue WRX911 and it's a great radio. It's very sensitive. I
could get all kinds of stations with it when I took it camping last
summer. The quality seemed really high to me, it's solid. It is
better than the little sangean portable they had a few years back that
was fragile like a wine glass. The speaker is really good too with
audible speech.


Thanks for the information. I'm glad to hear that problems similar to the one
I experienced with the WRX-911 do not appear to be endemic.

Cheers,

--Kevin


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