Shortwave will be more interesting as the high powers close, more lower
power dx.

Mike

On 19 Dec 2003 04:32:14 -0800
(Vijay) wrote:

Hi everyone:

Newbie to this group.


I decided to listen to the SW relay from CBC Early in the morning
today. Heard DW and Radio Poland. It was great.

For now I don't feel I will listen to SW consistently. Hence, I
have decided to listen in on the Net as well as on the relay.
Doesn't matter thru what device I get the programs, as long as I
can listen to them.

In the long term future, when I feel that I will listen to SW a
lot, I might go ahead and get a SW Radio. In the meantime, I can
also look for good deals in pawn shops.

Vijay :)

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:25:34 +0000 (UTC)
"Mike Terry" wrote:

Shortwave will be more interesting as the high powers close,
more lower power dx.

Mike



True, but one will need a lot better equipment. Besides, without
standard, regular broadcasts, most average listeners will vanish.

Vijay

In article ,
R Vijay wrote:

On 19 Dec 2003 04:32:14 -0800 (Vijay) wrote:

Hi everyone:

Newbie to this group.


I decided to listen to the SW relay from CBC Early in the morning
today. Heard DW and Radio Poland. It was great.

For now I don't feel I will listen to SW consistently. Hence, I have
decided to listen in on the Net as well as on the relay. Doesn't
matter thru what device I get the programs, as long as I can listen
to them.

In the long term future, when I feel that I will listen to SW a lot,
I might go ahead and get a SW Radio. In the meantime, I can also look
for good deals in pawn shops.

Well this is where we part company. It matters to me how I get the
programming. I won't listen to Internet broadcasts as long as SW is
around. I don't care for the SW relays either. I'm interested in hearing
broadcasts with my radio from the country of origin directly with only
the ionosphere in between.

What I want to hear is programming from a foreign transmitter to my
radio with no mitigating infrastructure (including DRM) in between.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

What I want to hear is programming from a foreign transmitter to my
radio with no mitigating infrastructure (including DRM) in between.


I don't know.... I listen to DRM broadcasts directly from
Junglinster, Luxembourg (there's no "mitigating infrastructure") here
in Detroit. DRM enticed RTL back onto shortwave when they had
previously abandoned it. Same with BBC to North America, Deutsche
Welle to North America, and Radio Sweden.


Unfortunately, relay stations will now be a part of shortwave
broadcasting due to financial constraints and the high cost of land
for the antenna site. Just because a station uses a relay
transmitter doesn't mean that the editorial comment will be affected.

However, it's your choice as to whether you want to listen or not.
You can certainly boycott Radio Sweden or China Radio and listen
exclusively to the huckster Gene Scott since there's no "mitigating
technology" such as relay stations or DRM involved.

In article m,
Fredric J. Einstein wrote:

What I want to hear is programming from a foreign transmitter to my
radio with no mitigating infrastructure (including DRM) in between.


I don't know.... I listen to DRM broadcasts directly from
Junglinster, Luxembourg (there's no "mitigating infrastructure") here
in Detroit. DRM enticed RTL back onto shortwave when they had
previously abandoned it. Same with BBC to North America, Deutsche
Welle to North America, and Radio Sweden.


Unfortunately, relay stations will now be a part of shortwave
broadcasting due to financial constraints and the high cost of land
for the antenna site. Just because a station uses a relay
transmitter doesn't mean that the editorial comment will be affected.

However, it's your choice as to whether you want to listen or not.
You can certainly boycott Radio Sweden or China Radio and listen
exclusively to the huckster Gene Scott since there's no "mitigating
technology" such as relay stations or DRM involved.

DRM uses proprietary codex's, which afford the broadcaster control of
who can listen. There is plenty to listen to on SW without relays. The
Gene Scott comment was stupid.

Strike 1
So lets see you purport to be intelligent enough to put together a setup
that lets you decode DRM but you are totally ignorant of the social
ramifications of this type of system.

Strike 2
Then you make asinine comments about relays.

Strike 3
I was replying to posters preferences in relation my own. You decided to
chine in making fun of my choices. This does not endear you to me and
relegates you to bafoon status.

Do you have any idea what I do about obnoxious people I run into on
Usenet? I ignore them.

Plonk

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 19:30:58 GMT
Telamon wrote:

Well this is where we part company. It matters to me how I get
the programming.


Given my present personal
situation, I feel that something is better than nothing. By using
the Internet Broadcast and relay atleast I hear some SW Radio.

However, I agree with you that the real SW Radio broadcast is a
great pleasure and unique experience. Should my circumstances
change, certainly I will opt for it.

Vijay

"starman" wrote in message
...
"When television came roaring in after the war (World War II) they did
a
little school survey asking children which they preferred and why -
television or radio. And there was this 7-year-old boy who said he
preferred radio because the pictures were better."

Alistair Cooke- BBC radio
'Letter from America'



Stan Freiberg likes that story, too. Now I'm trying to picture Fred
Allen passing himself off as a 7 year old.

I don't want to imply imagination is a universal attribute of radio
listeners. Consider the small subset who consider the entertaining
radio talk show blowhards to be some kind of great modern philosophers.
Sheesh. Better to learn physics from Warner Brothers cartoons.

Frank Dresser

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:20:05 GMT, Telamon
wrote:

Just because someone disagrees with you and presents intelligent and
realistic reasoning, you lash out with uncontrollable rage and
insults. Control your rage! UseNet is a forum where people are
allowed freedom to strongly disagree.

Listen to whatever you wish. DRM doesn't restrict any editorial
opinoins and uses MPEG-4 compression scheme which is totally
non-proprietary. DRM brought several long-lost broadcasters back to
shortwave and will be the salvation of the medium. Your
pseudo-intellectual arrogance doesn't change that fact.

"Fredric J. Einstein" wrote in message
s.com...

[snip]


Listen to whatever you wish. DRM doesn't restrict any editorial
opinoins and uses MPEG-4 compression scheme which is totally
non-proprietary. DRM brought several long-lost broadcasters back to
shortwave and will be the salvation of the medium. Your
pseudo-intellectual arrogance doesn't change that fact.

Salvation from what?

Frank Dresser