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J. Tozzo December 20th 03 08:21 PM

Shortwave through a Stereo
 
I hooked up a DJ mixer to my stereo yesterday so i could listen to
vinyl & cds on it. I plugged my ICOM R75 into one of the unused
channels (via LINE OUT) and brought it up & it sounds great! (in that
shortwavy noisy way) It seems like both the audio frequency response &
dynamic range are greatly increased compared to headphones(good sonys)
and especially the internal speaker. The stereo is a Technics SU-V26
& Cerwin Vega E310's if that matters to anyone. So if your radio is
near your stereo give it a go. Now i need a good recorder (& the other
turntable). I cant wait to hear some good music on the pirate
stations.... we'll see tonight hopefully. ok folks bye
-Justin keepin it cloudy in SW
Fla.......

CrewL December 21st 03 02:16 AM

I have a Sony FM/AM tuner in my stereo and it also has SW bands in it. I've
had it since 1986. Don't know if you can still get them. Quite decent for
loud broadcasters (BBC, etc), but no SSB of course).

C.


"J. Tozzo" wrote in message
om...
I hooked up a DJ mixer to my stereo yesterday so i could listen to
vinyl & cds on it. I plugged my ICOM R75 into one of the unused
channels (via LINE OUT) and brought it up & it sounds great! (in that
shortwavy noisy way) It seems like both the audio frequency response &
dynamic range are greatly increased compared to headphones(good sonys)
and especially the internal speaker. The stereo is a Technics SU-V26
& Cerwin Vega E310's if that matters to anyone. So if your radio is
near your stereo give it a go. Now i need a good recorder (& the other
turntable). I cant wait to hear some good music on the pirate
stations.... we'll see tonight hopefully. ok folks bye
-Justin keepin it cloudy in SW
Fla.......




SW Broadcasting Service December 21st 03 08:49 AM

Yes, i also often listen to sw that way, some sw radios have that beefie
sound you are talking about. often old tube ones, but puting it tru the
stereo is far the best way..

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om...
I hooked up a DJ mixer to my stereo yesterday so i could listen to
vinyl & cds on it. I plugged my ICOM R75 into one of the unused
channels (via LINE OUT) and brought it up & it sounds great! (in that
shortwavy noisy way) It seems like both the audio frequency response &
dynamic range are greatly increased compared to headphones(good sonys)
and especially the internal speaker. The stereo is a Technics SU-V26
& Cerwin Vega E310's if that matters to anyone. So if your radio is
near your stereo give it a go. Now i need a good recorder (& the other
turntable). I cant wait to hear some good music on the pirate
stations.... we'll see tonight hopefully. ok folks bye
-Justin keepin it cloudy in SW
Fla.......




starman December 21st 03 08:46 PM

"J. Tozzo" wrote:

I hooked up a DJ mixer to my stereo yesterday so i could listen to
vinyl & cds on it. I plugged my ICOM R75 into one of the unused
channels (via LINE OUT) and brought it up & it sounds great! (in that
shortwavy noisy way) It seems like both the audio frequency response &
dynamic range are greatly increased compared to headphones(good sonys)
and especially the internal speaker. The stereo is a Technics SU-V26
& Cerwin Vega E310's if that matters to anyone. So if your radio is
near your stereo give it a go. Now i need a good recorder (& the other
turntable). I cant wait to hear some good music on the pirate
stations.... we'll see tonight hopefully. ok folks bye
-Justin keepin it cloudy in SW
Fla.......


It works particularly well if the stereo has an equalizer (instead of
tone controls) so you can tailor the sound across the audio spectrum for
shortwave reception.


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Mark Keith December 22nd 03 08:12 AM

(J. Tozzo) wrote in message . com...
I hooked up a DJ mixer to my stereo yesterday so i could listen to
vinyl & cds on it. I plugged my ICOM R75 into one of the unused
channels (via LINE OUT) and brought it up & it sounds great! (in that
shortwavy noisy way) It seems like both the audio frequency response &
dynamic range are greatly increased compared to headphones(good sonys)
and especially the internal speaker. The stereo is a Technics SU-V26
& Cerwin Vega E310's if that matters to anyone. So if your radio is
near your stereo give it a go. Now i need a good recorder (& the other
turntable). I cant wait to hear some good music on the pirate
stations.... we'll see tonight hopefully. ok folks bye
-Justin keepin it cloudy in SW
Fla.......


Can help plenty with the dinky speakers most radios have these days. I
run my IC-706mk2g into my puter sound card. From there I run it to a
kenwood integrated audio amp. That goes to two speakers normally.
Makes my little 706 sound like a big radio. Going through the puter
gives me initial volume and tone control. Also DSP, and all the other
stuff like SSTV, and the digi modes, spectrum analysers, etc..I can
also easily record using the puter. I have a program that will even
cut it off and on with squelch operation. Good for scanning obscure
VHF/UHF, etc..And the audio quality is the same as what I hear
originally. Being it's all direct, there is little degradation of the
audio on playback. If I use a high sample rate, it's dang near
memorex.
The kenwood amp has some EQ built in, and also loudness. In
comparison, the little dinky speaker in the icom sounds like a fart
box.
BTW, speaking of manly SW and MW audio...I still hope to get my old
1948 RCA Victor console fired up B4 too long. I think I have it all
working, but the speaker output tranny is fried. Gotta get another
one, and I think it will be working...That thing has a dual 6v6 audio
amp and a 12 inch speaker. Covers MW and some SW bands. Should sound
fairly robust compared to many of these modern boxes with 3-4 inch
speakers. Those old radios are pretty wide too as far as bandwidth.
Should have pretty good audio quality for AM. Might even end up being
preferable to my old trusty zenith TO. The RCA has a bigger badder MW
loop than the TO also.. :) MK

elg110254 December 22nd 03 06:10 PM

Have run a succession of shortwave rigs through various hi-fi units for well
over three decades! Yaesu's FRG-7 is the Marantz of solid-state units,
emulating that auld Hammarlund thermionic tone! Really excels on those
Wednesday evening A.M.I. Net broadcasts on 3.870 mhz! Great for Lucky Ocean's
"Planet" via Radio Australia also; as well as Auntie Beeb's musical
presentations! An audio-modded ICOM R-75 produces a nice fat midrange which
sounds luxurious during sports broadcasts! Sony's 2010, through a decent
microphone pre-amp, has a scintilatin' retro-vibe as well !

starman December 23rd 03 09:41 AM

elg110254 wrote:

Have run a succession of shortwave rigs through various hi-fi units for well
over three decades! Yaesu's FRG-7 is the Marantz of solid-state units,
emulating that auld Hammarlund thermionic tone! Really excels on those
Wednesday evening A.M.I. Net broadcasts on 3.870 mhz! Great for Lucky Ocean's
"Planet" via Radio Australia also; as well as Auntie Beeb's musical
presentations! An audio-modded ICOM R-75 produces a nice fat midrange which
sounds luxurious during sports broadcasts! Sony's 2010, through a decent
microphone pre-amp, has a scintilatin' retro-vibe as well !


The Drake-R8B audio would be a Harmon-Kardon vacuum tube model. :-)


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Jmpngtiger December 25th 03 12:25 AM

My Dx-398 sounds a lot better through my set of Sony powered speakers(intended
for a walkman cd player).

I can imagine a good hi-fi stereo would be even better.

jt

Have run a succession of shortwave rigs through various hi-fi units for

well
over three decades! Yaesu's FRG-7 is the Marantz of solid-state units,
emulating that auld Hammarlund thermionic tone! Really excels on those
Wednesday evening A.M.I. Net broadcasts on 3.870 mhz! Great for Lucky

Ocean's
"Planet" via Radio Australia also; as well as Auntie Beeb's musical
presentations! An audio-modded ICOM R-75 produces a nice fat midrange which
sounds luxurious during sports broadcasts! Sony's 2010, through a decent
microphone pre-amp, has a scintilatin' retro-vibe as well !


The Drake-R8B audio would be a Harmon-Kardon vacuum tube model. :-)


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Ken Thomas December 25th 03 01:31 AM

my DX398 has a lot of hiss through the headphones and line out.
Compare it to say, a Walkman - Sony is clear as a bell. My opinion,
and think about this for a second - any radio that has a speaker has
hiss on the line out or phones - without a speaker - like a Walkman or
IPOD, etc.. no hiss and sounds beautiful.

Regards

On 25 Dec 2003 00:25:59 GMT, ospam (Jmpngtiger)
wrote:

My Dx-398 sounds a lot better through my set of Sony powered speakers(intended
for a walkman cd player).

I can imagine a good hi-fi stereo would be even better.

jt

Have run a succession of shortwave rigs through various hi-fi units for

well
over three decades! Yaesu's FRG-7 is the Marantz of solid-state units,
emulating that auld Hammarlund thermionic tone! Really excels on those
Wednesday evening A.M.I. Net broadcasts on 3.870 mhz! Great for Lucky

Ocean's
"Planet" via Radio Australia also; as well as Auntie Beeb's musical
presentations! An audio-modded ICOM R-75 produces a nice fat midrange which
sounds luxurious during sports broadcasts! Sony's 2010, through a decent
microphone pre-amp, has a scintilatin' retro-vibe as well !


The Drake-R8B audio would be a Harmon-Kardon vacuum tube model. :-)


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Mike W December 25th 03 03:40 PM

Along the same lines, I have a Sangean RS-330 (formerly Proton clock radio)
that has a lot of hiss noticeable when using headphones also. This a fairly
expensive radio, and works very well but I have noticed the hiss issue. If
I'm not mistaken, you can hear the hiss even before you turn on the radio if
you plug in the headphones and listen! On the other hand I have a Sangean
DT110 pocket radio that has virtually no backround hiss in the phones.

- mike w

"Ken Thomas" wrote in message
...
my DX398 has a lot of hiss through the headphones and line out.
Compare it to say, a Walkman - Sony is clear as a bell. My opinion,
and think about this for a second - any radio that has a speaker has
hiss on the line out or phones - without a speaker - like a Walkman or
IPOD, etc.. no hiss and sounds beautiful.

Regards

On 25 Dec 2003 00:25:59 GMT, ospam (Jmpngtiger)
wrote:

My Dx-398 sounds a lot better through my set of Sony powered

speakers(intended
for a walkman cd player).

I can imagine a good hi-fi stereo would be even better.

jt

Have run a succession of shortwave rigs through various hi-fi units

for
well
over three decades! Yaesu's FRG-7 is the Marantz of solid-state units,
emulating that auld Hammarlund thermionic tone! Really excels on those
Wednesday evening A.M.I. Net broadcasts on 3.870 mhz! Great for Lucky
Ocean's
"Planet" via Radio Australia also; as well as Auntie Beeb's musical
presentations! An audio-modded ICOM R-75 produces a nice fat midrange

which
sounds luxurious during sports broadcasts! Sony's 2010, through a

decent
microphone pre-amp, has a scintilatin' retro-vibe as well !

The Drake-R8B audio would be a Harmon-Kardon vacuum tube model. :-)


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Mark Keith December 26th 03 09:46 AM

Ken Thomas wrote in message . ..
my DX398 has a lot of hiss through the headphones and line out.
Compare it to say, a Walkman - Sony is clear as a bell. My opinion,
and think about this for a second - any radio that has a speaker has
hiss on the line out or phones - without a speaker - like a Walkman or
IPOD, etc.. no hiss and sounds beautiful.



Must be a design problem with that particular radio. All my radio's
have both speakers and headphone jacks. Well....Let me take that back,
the drake R4 uses an outboard speaker, but it still uses a speaker
out, and also a headphone jack.
Most of mine have no real hiss at all. My older tube types probably
have the most, but it's not enough to override the audio once it's
turned up to a usable level. My newer solid state radios have very
little. At the moment, I have two radios on. A IC-706mk2g, and a
TS-830. I just did a test using the phones. I could detect no
noticable hiss whatsoever. Having a speaker will not effect whether a
radio has hiss in the audio circuit. This is a audio circuit design
problem. Probably stemming from cutting corners to make a lower price
radio. You gets whats ya pay for....Also, comparing walkmans and ipods
to a shortwave radio is kind of like apples and oranges. The walkmans
have cleaner audio designs because they are designed for music and
they know music listeners are very picky. Requires a clean, wide range
amp. The lower priced shortwave radios don't have near the quality of
audio amps the walkmans do. They recognise that most "average" users
wouldn't hear the difference anyway when listening to broadcasts that
barely even utilize half the audio spectrum a walkman does. "20-20,000
hz" or whatever...As far as your "hiss", it's likely just the results
of a fairly cheap and simple audio amp, or poor circuit layout,
decoupling, design, whatever.... Common in many portables. If they put
more money in the audio amp, they would have to cut something else to
keep the same price..IE: BFO, digital readout, or whatever. My radios
don't hiss cuz they cost quite a bit more than a dx-398, and have
better and quieter audio circuit designs. Maybe blunt, but tis the
real reason...:/ You gets whats ya pay for. MK

RHF January 3rd 04 02:11 PM

JT,

Getting the "Best Sound" out of your World-Band Radio
GoTo= http://www.redbird.net/n8ku/sound.htm

Some Highlights on this webpage by N8KU :

* Luckily, AM (SW) Radio is by nature not too demanding in
the areas of low bass or high treble.

* The AM (SW) Frequency Spectrum that you are likely to coax
out of even the best shortwave receivers extends only
from about 100 Hz to perhaps 5 or 6 KHz.

* What you will get from AM (SW) is the "slam" of realistic
dynamic range.

* Musical programs on the stronger stations such as the
BBC or Radio Nederland sound just incredible.

* Talk about "feeling the music!"

* And as a bonus, I can listen to local AM Stations for
more consistent musical programming.

* But even for news and talk shows, a professional 12" Woofer
raises the intelligibility to a level you won't believe.


hsts ~ RHF
= = = How Sweet the Sound! joy, Joy. JOY !
..
..
= = = (J. Tozzo)
= = = wrote in message . com...

I hooked up a DJ mixer to my stereo yesterday so i could listen
to vinyl & cds on it. I plugged my ICOM R75 into one of the
unused channels (via LINE OUT) and brought it up & it sounds great!
(in that shortwavy noisy way) It seems like both the audio frequency
response & dynamic range are greatly increased compared to headphones
(good sonys) and especially the internal speaker. The stereo is
a Technics SU-V26 & Cerwin Vega E310's if that matters to anyone.
So if your radio is near your stereo give it a go. Now i need a
good recorder (& the other turntable). I cant wait to hear some
good music on the pirate stations.... we'll see tonight hopefully.
ok folks bye
- - - Justin keepin it cloudy in SW Fla.......

..

Zackie Liang January 4th 04 09:43 PM

I have tested several radios i have:

MY portable radios get nice signals but with high background noises
-Two of them (Chibo 999) with broad pasband gete a nice audio .
-One fully trransistorized BOLONG gets also marvelous FM audio to very
pealsant near 'HiFI' audio
-ICOM R75 goes well , Not a so gerat sound as form its speaker
-Lowe HF150 gets beter audio

You can read reviewsof several KChibo radios and Bolong in this file in
my web page
www.geocities.com/zliangas/kchibo.pdf

Zacharias Liangas


-----------
JT,

Getting the "Best Sound" out of your World-Band Radio
GoTo= http://www.redbird.net/n8ku/sound.htm

Some Highlights on this webpage by N8KU :

* Luckily, AM (SW) Radio is by nature not too demanding in the areas of low
bass or high treble.

* The AM (SW) Frequency Spectrum that you are likely to coax
out of even the best shortwave receivers extends only
from about 100 Hz to perhaps 5 or 6 KHz.

* What you will get from AM (SW) is the "slam" of realistic
dynamic range.

* Musical programs on the stronger stations such as the
BBC or Radio Nederland sound just incredible.

* Talk about "feeling the music!"

* And as a bonus, I can listen to local AM Stations for
more consistent musical programming.

* But even for news and talk shows, a professional 12" Woofer
raises the intelligibility to a level you won't believe.


hsts ~ RHF
= = = How Sweet the Sound! joy, Joy. JOY !
..
..
= = = (J. Tozzo)
= = = wrote in message
. com...

I hooked up a DJ mixer to my stereo yesterday so i could listen
to vinyl & cds on it. I plugged my ICOM R75 into one of the
unused channels (via LINE OUT) and brought it up & it sounds great!
(in that shortwavy noisy way) It seems like both the audio frequency
response & dynamic range are greatly increased compared to headphones
(good sonys) and especially the internal speaker. The stereo is
a Technics SU-V26 & Cerwin Vega E310's if that matters to anyone.
So if your radio is near your stereo give it a go. Now i need a
good recorder (& the other turntable). I cant wait to hear some
good music on the pirate stations.... we'll see tonight hopefully.
ok folks bye
- - - Justin keepin it cloudy in SW Fla.......

..






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