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Dear Rush
It's payback time!
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"JC" wrote in :
Payback time for what, his opinions? My my, this is mighty liberal of you, you're concerned about revenge against a person that has done nothing against you other than to hold opinions that are judgmental. But you are willing to let the people that actually adversely impact your life to get away with it without a whimper. (let's see, Bill Clinton come to mind, as does a cavalcade of other corrupt politicians, lying broadcast show hosts, deceiving doctors, etc.) As the jobs flow overseas, (yes, yes, Mr. Bush is increasingly to blame for this as well), as your Rights ebb away under this Patriot act or the other, as your guns are confiscated, as your health care coverage lapses, we'll all know that you got your priorities straight because one of the few things that inspired you to action was taking delight in the destruction of Rush. I don't listen to Rush anymore, haven't for many years now. But, and I have a very big but, (From Pee Wee Herman's movie), if they apply undue attention to Rush, they need to revisit all of the other politicians, actors, and sports figures that have been caught up in similar misdoings. Merry Christmas It's payback time! -- Never say never. Nothing is absolute. |
"JC" wrote in message ... It's payback time! Hope he don't have any McBurgers !! You can get BSE/CJV from eating McBeef you know!!!! |
"JC" wrote ...
It's payback time! Soooo .. what did you have in mind? He admitted the problem .. he went through treatment .. his ratings are up a few points .. he's putting a few more million in the bank .. hasn't he suffered enough already? Come on JC it's Christmas .. try to have peace on earth and good will toward your fellow man just for a few days. OK? |
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= = = wrote in message ... It's payback time! One Mite Ask.... Rush Who ? Or are your talking about the Electronic Media Lynching for Rush Limbaugh by a DemoCratZy Political Cardre. SO WHY has Barry E. Krischer the State's Attorney for Palm Beach County changed the 'focus' of the Investigation from 'actual' Drug Dealers to the Conservative Talk Show Host Rush Limbaugh ? The original Drug Dealing and Drug Suppliers 'investigation' began as a probe into the illegal sale of prescription painkillers in South Florida area that targeted dealers and suppliers. But investigators came across Rush Limbaugh through clues gathered in a bust of a Drug Dealer in Palm Beach County this year, that revealed Rush Limbaugh's name as a possible drug buyer. During this investigation Rush Limbaugh's former housekeeper (Wilma Cline) was caught along with her husband (David Cline). After the Clines were caught, they then 'traded' audio tapes and eMails that they claimed were from Rush Limbaugh to the police and was "Granted Immunity from Prosecution". The Clines are/were in-fact Drug Dealers and evidently had kept records and evidence on their drug dealing business to 'trade' with the police, if and when they got caught. TBL: So now the Clines are FREE of All Drug Dealing Charges [.] * NOTE: The National Enquirer paid the Clines a six-figure fee for their story. * REVELATION: The Clines were Black Mailing Mr. Limbaugh but the Democrat Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office that Black Mail is not a Crime if Done for the Right Reasons. * PLUS: Certain individuals connected with the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office and the investigation, have been providing selected information to the National Enquirer and other friendly news organizations. ? So the "QUESTION" becomes: WHY did the the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office let Wilma and David Cline 'the Drug Dealers' go Free in exchange for Rush Limbaugh 'the Drug User' ? Has Barry E. Krischer the State's Attorney for Palm Beach County, choosen to Go After Rush Limbaugh as a high profile drug user simply for "Political" Reasons. * NOTE: Barry E. Krischer (Democrat) is the 'elected' State's Attorney for Palm Beach County, was a supporter of Bill Clinton's two presidential campaigns and of Al Gore's presidential run in 2000. I 'repeat' WHY has Barry E. Krischer the State's Attorney for Palm Beach County changed the 'focus' of the Investigation from 'actual' Drug Dealers to the Conservative Talk Show Host Rush Limbaugh ? The Seriousness of the Charges of "Political" Reasons for the selective 'naming' of Rush Limbaugh 'leaks' of information in this investigation by Barry E. Krischer the State's Attorney for Palm Beach County, demand an investigation by the Florida State Attorney General's Office. iwtk ~ RHF .. .. |
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writes: As the jobs flow overseas, (yes, yes, Mr. Bush is increasingly to blame for this as well), as your health care coverage lapses, - So , given the above, Stay Well & travel light Merry Christmas ! |
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= = = wrote in message news:99efd$3fe9a4b4$d1cc418b$22812@allthenewsgrou ps.com... "JC" wrote in message ... It's payback time! Hope he don't have any McBurgers !! You can get BSE/CJV from eating McBeef you know!!!! BBf75M, Oh... NO You Can't [.] Micky "D"s only uses Kangaroo Meat - And Thats A Fact Jack-O ! Why else do so many people say. Lets Hop Over to Micky "D"s and get something to Eat. - - -or- - - Lets Hop In To Micky "D"s and get something to Eat. jftfoi ~ RHF .. .. |
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First off, I really don't consider myself a republican, more of a
constructionist than anything. I really do believe that this whole thing is politically motivated. As an example, what happened to Brett Farve when he admitted to abusing prescription drugs? I don't remember anyone requesting his medical records? And I sure and the hell don't remember any presecutors even "beginning" and investigation. So Brett Farve along with millions of other people who are hooked on "scripts" get a pass. (sorry for the pun), but Rush gets leaks to tabloids, blackmail that is not prosecuted, complete reversal of investigations, and the special attention of states presecutors. Does not seem very fair to me. Hell It would be different if Rush was caught with a bag full of hundreds of pills. But he wasn't. Ant |
Very good points -- great post.
-- Stinger "ASW" wrote in message gy.com... First off, I really don't consider myself a republican, more of a constructionist than anything. I really do believe that this whole thing is politically motivated. As an example, what happened to Brett Farve when he admitted to abusing prescription drugs? I don't remember anyone requesting his medical records? And I sure and the hell don't remember any presecutors even "beginning" and investigation. So Brett Farve along with millions of other people who are hooked on "scripts" get a pass. (sorry for the pun), but Rush gets leaks to tabloids, blackmail that is not prosecuted, complete reversal of investigations, and the special attention of states presecutors. Does not seem very fair to me. Hell It would be different if Rush was caught with a bag full of hundreds of pills. But he wasn't. Ant |
Farve was an asshole for taking that sack so Strahan could get the
record... and Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it. On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:20:39 GMT, Gary Sanford wrote: On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:02:38 GMT, "ASW" wrote: First off, I really don't consider myself a republican, more of a constructionist than anything. I really do believe that this whole thing is politically motivated. As an example, what happened to Brett Farve when he admitted to abusing prescription drugs? I don't remember anyone requesting his medical records? And I sure and the hell don't remember any presecutors even "beginning" and investigation. So Brett Farve along with millions of other people who are hooked on "scripts" get a pass. (sorry for the pun), but Rush gets leaks to tabloids, blackmail that is not prosecuted, complete reversal of investigations, and the special attention of states presecutors. Does not seem very fair to me. Hell It would be different if Rush was caught with a bag full of hundreds of pills. But he wasn't. Ant But Farve is not an asshole....... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary Sanford |
Soliloquy wrote in message . 44...
"JC" wrote in : Payback time for what, his opinions? Ummm, yes. Rush is the moron who said that all drug abusers should be rounded up and thrown in prison. Are you saying this shouldn't apply to him? Why? Because he's a media hero and your guru? My my, this is mighty liberal of you, you're concerned about revenge against a person that has done nothing against you other than to hold opinions that are judgmental. Not just judgemental, absolutely stupid. And payback is a bitch, isn't it? But you are willing to let the people that actually adversely impact your life to get away with it without a whimper. (let's see, Bill Clinton come to mind, as does a cavalcade of other corrupt politicians, lying broadcast show hosts, deceiving doctors, etc.) Bill Clinton allegedly lied about a blow job. Rush Limbaugh DID lie about drug abuse. There is a difference, except in dumb conservative minds, I guess. As the jobs flow overseas, (yes, yes, Mr. Bush is increasingly to blame for this as well), as your Rights ebb away under this Patriot act or the other, as your guns are confiscated, as your health care coverage lapses, we'll all know that you got your priorities straight because one of the few things that inspired you to action was taking delight in the destruction of Rush. "W" is destroying himself through absolute stupidity. If you can't see that, you're a stupid as he is. I don't listen to Rush anymore, haven't for many years now. But, and I have a very big but, (From Pee Wee Herman's movie), if they apply undue attention to Rush, they need to revisit all of the other politicians, actors, and sports figures that have been caught up in similar misdoings. I never did, but I know he's a pompous jerk. And always was. But why would it be "undue" attention? If he's a fraud and a liar, it's certainly "due" attention. Unless you happen to be a dumbass "dittohead", of course. Then logic doesn't apply. Merry Christmas Merry pagan winter feast day to you, too. |
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Gary Sanford wrote: On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:02:38 GMT, "ASW" wrote: First off, I really don't consider myself a republican, more of a constructionist than anything. I really do believe that this whole thing is politically motivated. As an example, what happened to Brett Farve when he admitted to abusing prescription drugs? I don't remember anyone requesting his medical records? And I sure and the hell don't remember any presecutors even "beginning" and investigation. So Brett Farve along with millions of other people who are hooked on "scripts" get a pass. (sorry for the pun), but Rush gets leaks to tabloids, blackmail that is not prosecuted, complete reversal of investigations, and the special attention of states presecutors. Does not seem very fair to me. Hell It would be different if Rush was caught with a bag full of hundreds of pills. But he wasn't. Ant But Farve is not an asshole....... If being an asshole were sufficient grounds for incarceration, most the the current collection of nobodies trying for the Democratic nomination would be in jail. |
"nobody" wrote in message ... If being an asshole were sufficient grounds for incarceration, most the the current collection of nobodies trying for the Democratic nomination would be in jail. Let's not damn with faint praise here... so would most of the current administration.. but then, I figure that could easily be applied to nearly every politician on both sides of the spectrum... :) |
It is not whether the law was broken, it was.
In the case of Bill Clinton he obstructed justice, perjured himself, and tampered with witnesses. Rush obtained prescription drugs illegally, tampered with witnesses, and probably possesed enormous quantities of prescription drugs illegally. I am questioning the application of the law. Lets face it, anyone of us has broken a multitude of laws, some more serious than others. It just seems to me that there seems to be a special place in the heart of most liberals for Rush. My point was that if it were just about anyone else the prosecutor would have bailed on the case and forgot it. Your personal attacks against anyone that agrees with Rush just prove my point. Lets say that you are the states prosecutor. You would go after him with a vengeance. Well ok, so be it. How did you feel about Ken Star? Did you like that? Did you think that was fair? What I am talking about is the biased use of power. Anytime it used in this way it is bad. It makes a mockery out of our court systems and makes me rethink being politically or socially involved. I mean I could get a ticket for jaywalking because some police officer seen me in a social/public venue that he/she did not agree with. While at the same time a police man lets a guy off a speeding ticket because he is wearing a Mason's ring? Don't think it has happened? I know it has! (The Mason Ring example that is) Ant |
kt, Kt. KT !
"KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." OBTW: "KW" I like Your Style: AKA: th "-s" :o) IRT: Your Statement "KT" - Your NOSE is... G r o w i n g :o) "Wilma Cline, 42, says Limbaugh was Hooked on the Potent Prescription Drugs: OxyContin, Lorcet and Hydrocodone" Source= http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-110349c.html * Hydrocodone Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence, drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness. * Lorcet Brand Name for the combination of Tylenol and Hydrocodone, prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness, tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching. * OxyContin Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive. TBL: A Large Dose Can Be FATAL. "The RUSH on Drugs" http://www.seattleweekly.com/feature...s_limbaugh.php Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." I Have Thought About It "KT". Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.] Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive ! "Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998" Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html "Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in Prison" Source= http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm "America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, - - - Libertarians say" Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652 "Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories" Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6 "Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen" Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm ssi ~ RHF = = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.) .. .. = = = Ken Thomas = = = wrote in message . .. Farve was an asshole for taking that sack so Strahan could get the record... and Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it. .. - S N I P - .. |
nobody wrote in message ...
In article , (Richard Cranium) wrote: Soliloquy wrote in message . 44... "JC" wrote in : Payback time for what, his opinions? Ummm, yes. Rush is the moron who said that all drug abusers should be rounded up and thrown in prison. Are you saying this shouldn't apply to him? No, but the law is. Do you think he should be put in jail for his opinions? Since he's the one who said it, Yes, I think it should apply especially to him. |
Here's a topic for discussion; it's claimed that; Rush's houskeeper blackmailed him, threatening to tell of his addiction unless he paid her $$$$$. If you threaten to tell the truth about someone unless they pay you, is it blackmail ? Would it be a criminal offense ? How is it different from extortion ? If they can prove that she took money to keep quiet, has she committed a criminal offense ? further If she took the cash, then told anyway, would she be liable in civil court for "breach of contract" ? ???? ( it's a slow SW day..... ) rj |
Wow... "Law and Order" liberals!
And they said Rush was a hypocrite... This is just too damn funny. -- Stinger "Richard Cranium" wrote in message om... nobody wrote in message ... In article , (Richard Cranium) wrote: Soliloquy wrote in message . 44... "JC" wrote in : Payback time for what, his opinions? Ummm, yes. Rush is the moron who said that all drug abusers should be rounded up and thrown in prison. Are you saying this shouldn't apply to him? No, but the law is. Do you think he should be put in jail for his opinions? Since he's the one who said it, Yes, I think it should apply especially to him. |
RHF -- Excellent job identifying the latest "urban legend." Of course,
facts won't stop them from spreading this manure. Next thing the libs will find out that they don't get $5,000 for forwarding the Disney "e-mail test." Let them down gently. -- Stinger "RHF" wrote in message om... kt, Kt. KT ! "KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." OBTW: "KW" I like Your Style: AKA: th "-s" :o) IRT: Your Statement "KT" - Your NOSE is... G r o w i n g :o) "Wilma Cline, 42, says Limbaugh was Hooked on the Potent Prescription Drugs: OxyContin, Lorcet and Hydrocodone" Source= http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-110349c.html * Hydrocodone Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence, drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness. * Lorcet Brand Name for the combination of Tylenol and Hydrocodone, prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness, tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching. * OxyContin Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive. TBL: A Large Dose Can Be FATAL. "The RUSH on Drugs" http://www.seattleweekly.com/feature...s_limbaugh.php Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." I Have Thought About It "KT". Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.] Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive ! "Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998" Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html "Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in Prison" Source= http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm "America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, - - - Libertarians say" Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652 "Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories" Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6 "Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen" Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm ssi ~ RHF = = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.) . . = = = Ken Thomas = = = wrote in message . .. Farve was an asshole for taking that sack so Strahan could get the record... and Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it. . - S N I P - . |
How true. But their sold-out career politicians are worse than our our
sold-out career politicians ;^) The term-limit issue needs to be readdressed. They've swept it under the rug again. We need people that will have to go back to real life and work under the laws they created when in Congress. -- Stinger "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "nobody" wrote in message ... If being an asshole were sufficient grounds for incarceration, most the the current collection of nobodies trying for the Democratic nomination would be in jail. Let's not damn with faint praise here... so would most of the current administration.. but then, I figure that could easily be applied to nearly every politician on both sides of the spectrum... :) |
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"RHF" wrote in message om... [snip] Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." I Have Thought About It "KT". Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.] Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive ! It's probably not worth checking out, but I did anyway. I couldn't find the lethal dose of oxycodone, but I did find something on heroin. Just for the sake of arguement, let's say the lethal doses are similar: Depending on purity and the user, a lethal dose of heroin may range from 200 to 500mg, but hardened addicts have survived doses of 1800mg and over." This is from: http://www.drug-overdose.com/heroin.htm So how much oxycodone is in each oxycontin pill? "It is supplied in 10 mg, 20 mg, 40 mg, 80 mg, and 160 mg tablet strengths for oral administration." The website says the 40 mg pills are the most commonly abused. Oxycontin, unlike heroin, is a time release drug. "Taking broken, chewed, or crushed tablets could lead to the rapid release and absorption of a potentially toxic dose of oxycodone." These quotes are from: http://www.stopoxycontinaddiction.co...ontin-pill.htm I'll assume Rush wasn't chewing or grinding and snorting the pills. The original poster didn't support his claim, but hundreds of pills in a weekend aren't inconceiveable. It would take a fistful of 10 mg oxycontin pills to have the kick that one 160 mg pill has. I suppose Rush might have been managing the opiate side effects with other drugs. Elvis did. Rush might have been downing vitamins and minerals and other stuff the way bodybuilders and the health food crowd do. "Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998" Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html The TalkLeft site has the headline wrong. Rush wasn't supporting legalizing drugs: "Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs." Did Rush really want to "fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs" with drug tax money? Or was he illustrating the absurdity of the tabacco restrictions? "Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in Prison" Source= http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm There's actually a good point at the drugpolicy site. Prisions aren't drug treatment centers. Rush wasn't personally hijacking trucks or breaking into pharmacies. But he was throwing cash into the criminal culture. Maybe, after this case is worked out, he'll talk about such things as criminalizing drug abuse. I'd like to hear it. But that's not the sort of radio which has given him plenty of money to throw around. "America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, - - - Libertarians say" Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652 Very funny! To quote the Libertarian writer: "The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say, because his ordeal has exposed every drug warrior in America as a rank hypocrite." How true! To be fair to Rush, the drug war rarely came up on his show. So, on this issue, Rush is a low rank hypocrite. "Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories" Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6 "Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen" Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm That's an interesting cite. Among the things it says is: "With appalling chutzpa, the conservative choir has excused Limbaugh's hypocrisy while simultaneously accusing "liberals and the media" of either themselves doing drugs or defending those who do. Indeed, according to the warped logic of one of his most vocal supporters, Limbaugh's hypocrisy is acceptable in large part because of the media's hypocrisy." But to claim Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite one would have to believe the Rush Limbaugh radio character is the same as the real Rush Limbaugh. ssi ~ RHF = = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.) . . . Frank Dresser |
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(Richard Cranium) wrote: nobody wrote in message ... In article , (Richard Cranium) wrote: Soliloquy wrote in message . 44... "JC" wrote in : Payback time for what, his opinions? Ummm, yes. Rush is the moron who said that all drug abusers should be rounded up and thrown in prison. Are you saying this shouldn't apply to him? No, but the law is. Do you think he should be put in jail for his opinions? Since he's the one who said it, Yes, I think it should apply especially to him. OK, you're now on record for wanting to punish someone for expressing his opinion. How American of you. |
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"RJ" wrote: Here's a topic for discussion; it's claimed that; Rush's houskeeper blackmailed him, threatening to tell of his addiction unless he paid her $$$$$. If you threaten to tell the truth about someone unless they pay you, is it blackmail ? Yep. Would it be a criminal offense ? It is. How is it different from extortion ? They may be two different names for the same thing. If they can prove that she took money to keep quiet, has she committed a criminal offense ? Yep. further If she took the cash, then told anyway, would she be liable in civil court for "breach of contract" ? don't know. |
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"ASW" wrote: It is not whether the law was broken, it was. In the case of Bill Clinton he obstructed justice, perjured himself, and tampered with witnesses. Rush obtained prescription drugs illegally, tampered with witnesses,.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Can you expand on that last one? |
That's what was said in the thread by you and your buddies -- you moron.
Have someone read it to you. Merry Christmas! -- Stinger "Michael Bryant" wrote in message ... From: "Stinger" Wow... "Law and Order" liberals! Only a extremist would really believe that one's desire for law and order is determined by their political perspective. Stop trolling on Christmas, you moron. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
"JC" wrote in message ... It's payback time! A vindictive mentality just drags everybody down in the mud shouting and slugging it out. When a "winner" ultimately emerges, it won't settle which position is right or superior, just who has the bigger fists. That's fine for troops of baboons, but not so good for civilized humans. Yes, Rush's "get tough on drug users" stand is infinitely hypocritical, and speaks for itself. You want to harm Rush? Dig out those quotes and trot them out. However, aside from whatever damage this does to Rush's credibility, I thought the classic liberal position was that this drug addiction is a medical and rehabilitation problem, rather than a law enforcement one. Do I misunderstand? Is there any value in jailing someone for becoming addicted to pain medication, after he sought rehab? Any value at all??? I thought not. No deterrent value. No rehabilitation value. Huge negative costs. This whole business of digging into his medical records and violating his privacy rights disgusts me, and quite frankly, those who are driving this ought to be ashamed of themselves if they're acting this way out of political motives. I sickens me to see this kind of mentality amongst supposedly evolved people. I'm not just saying this. You guys - get a grip and play the game by the rules. My 0.02. -- Ross |
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:57:16 GMT, "Ross Archer" wrote:
Do I misunderstand? Is there any value in jailing someone for becoming addicted to pain medication, after he sought rehab? Any value at all??? I thought not. No deterrent value. No rehabilitation value. Huge negative costs. Is there any value in throwing a confessed sex offender in jail? After they sought help a few times? Any value at all? Can't deter a sex offender right? Can they be rehabilitated? Costs? It's not a question of liberal/conservative values. Who could give a flying F about how those ideals apply to this argument. If a law was broken - pay the consequences. If not - no problem. If anything, he's not a victim of his politics - just a victim of being famous. Regards. |
RJ,
BASIC FACT: Rush Limbaugh 'abused' Prescription Drugs; has admitted being a Drug Addict; has sought Drug Treatment twice before; and recently completed a Drug Treatment Program. POLITICAL FACT: The Basic Facts are NOT Important [.] What Is Important is Rush Limbaugh is a Conservative Talk Show Host; and thus can be 'categorized' as "Social Deviant"; who requires Internment for his Out Spoken Right Wing Political Views. SIMPLE FACT: After she left Rush Limbaugh's employment; his former housekeeper (Wilma Cline) was caught along with her husband (David Cline) for Drug Dealing. LEGAL FACT: After the Clines were caught, they then 'traded' audio tapes and eMails that they claimed were from Rush Limbaugh to the police and was "Granted Immunity from Prosecution". = = = GET OUT OF JAIL FREE ! RECORDED FACT: The Clines are/were in-fact Drug Dealers and evidently had kept records and evidence on their drug dealing business to 'trade' with the police, if and when they got caught. NAKED FACT: Punishing Drug Dealers if NOT the Focus of the Current Criminal Investigation. Because the Drug Dealers are being Granted Immunity from Procsecution" for Information on the Right Wing Polictial Criminal who is called "Rush Limbaugh". PUBLIC FACT: Rush Limbaugh is widely known as a Major Leader of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. This has been publicly confirmed by President Bill Clinton. = = = We Can Trust Him At His Word :o) APPARENT FACT: Rush Limbaugh is a Criminal (or ought to be a criminal) for simply being Rush Limbaugh. UNDISPUTBLE FACT: Rush Limbaugh is Rush Limbaugh [.] ( Rush Limbaugh has Publicly Admitted to being Rush Limbaugh. ) Just "The FACTS" Man ~ RHF .. .. = = = "RJ" = = = wrote in message . .. Here's a topic for discussion; it's claimed that; Rush's houskeeper blackmailed him, threatening to tell of his addiction unless he paid her $$$$$. If you threaten to tell the truth about someone unless they pay you, is it blackmail ? Would it be a criminal offense ? How is it different from extortion ? If they can prove that she took money to keep quiet, has she committed a criminal offense ? further If she took the cash, then told anyway, would she be liable in civil court for "breach of contract" ? ???? ( it's a slow SW day..... ) rj .. |
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Lets Do The Math (LDTM): Most Common "Oxycodone" Dosage is 40 mg and taken 3-6 Times a Day. = = = Three to Six Pills a Day. (Maximum of Six Pills.) Maximum "Oxycodone" Dosage is 160 mg and taken 3-6 Times a Day. = = = Dosage Factor: 160 mg divided by 40 mg Equals Four Times (4X) Using your Heron Over Dose Numbers: = Base Dose 200 mg = OverDose 1800 mg = "OD" Factor: Nine Times (9X) Resulting Conclusion: 216 @ 40 mg Pills 1. Maximum of Six Pills 2. Dosage Factor Equals Four Times (4X) 3. "OD" Factor: Nine Times (9X) TBL: 6 X 4 X 9 = 216 Pills in a Day should produce an Over Dose. WOW... "RUSH" YOU DA MAN ! (He Is Still Alive - Wow !) waef... ~ RHF = When All Else Fails... = = Take Off Your Shoes = = = And Count Your Toes ! .. .. = = = "Frank Dresser" = = = wrote in message ... "RHF" wrote in message om... [snip] Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." I Have Thought About It "KT". Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.] Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive ! It's probably not worth checking out, but I did anyway. I couldn't find the lethal dose of oxycodone, but I did find something on heroin. Just for the sake of arguement, let's say the lethal doses are similar: Depending on purity and the user, a lethal dose of heroin may range from 200 to 500mg, but hardened addicts have survived doses of 1800mg and over." This is from: http://www.drug-overdose.com/heroin.htm So how much oxycodone is in each oxycontin pill? "It is supplied in 10 mg, 20 mg, 40 mg, 80 mg, and 160 mg tablet strengths for oral administration." The website says the 40 mg pills are the most commonly abused. Oxycontin, unlike heroin, is a time release drug. "Taking broken, chewed, or crushed tablets could lead to the rapid release and absorption of a potentially toxic dose of oxycodone." These quotes are from: http://www.stopoxycontinaddiction.co...ontin-pill.htm I'll assume Rush wasn't chewing or grinding and snorting the pills. The original poster didn't support his claim, but hundreds of pills in a weekend aren't inconceiveable. It would take a fistful of 10 mg oxycontin pills to have the kick that one 160 mg pill has. I suppose Rush might have been managing the opiate side effects with other drugs. Elvis did. Rush might have been downing vitamins and minerals and other stuff the way bodybuilders and the health food crowd do. "Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998" Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html The TalkLeft site has the headline wrong. Rush wasn't supporting legalizing drugs: "Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs." Did Rush really want to "fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs" with drug tax money? Or was he illustrating the absurdity of the tabacco restrictions? "Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in Prison" Source= http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm There's actually a good point at the drugpolicy site. Prisions aren't drug treatment centers. Rush wasn't personally hijacking trucks or breaking into pharmacies. But he was throwing cash into the criminal culture. Maybe, after this case is worked out, he'll talk about such things as criminalizing drug abuse. I'd like to hear it. But that's not the sort of radio which has given him plenty of money to throw around. "America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, - - - Libertarians say" Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652 Very funny! To quote the Libertarian writer: "The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say, because his ordeal has exposed every drug warrior in America as a rank hypocrite." How true! To be fair to Rush, the drug war rarely came up on his show. So, on this issue, Rush is a low rank hypocrite. "Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories" Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6 "Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen" Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm That's an interesting cite. Among the things it says is: "With appalling chutzpa, the conservative choir has excused Limbaugh's hypocrisy while simultaneously accusing "liberals and the media" of either themselves doing drugs or defending those who do. Indeed, according to the warped logic of one of his most vocal supporters, Limbaugh's hypocrisy is acceptable in large part because of the media's hypocrisy." But to claim Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite one would have to believe the Rush Limbaugh radio character is the same as the real Rush Limbaugh. ssi ~ RHF = = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.) . . . Frank Dresser |
RHF wrote: FD, Lets Do The Math (LDTM): Most Common "Oxycodone" Dosage is 40 mg and taken 3-6 Times a Day. = = = Three to Six Pills a Day. (Maximum of Six Pills.) Maximum "Oxycodone" Dosage is 160 mg and taken 3-6 Times a Day. = = = Dosage Factor: 160 mg divided by 40 mg Equals Four Times (4X) Using your Heron Over Dose Numbers: = Base Dose 200 mg = OverDose 1800 mg = "OD" Factor: Nine Times (9X) Resulting Conclusion: 216 @ 40 mg Pills 1. Maximum of Six Pills 2. Dosage Factor Equals Four Times (4X) 3. "OD" Factor: Nine Times (9X) TBL: 6 X 4 X 9 = 216 Pills in a Day should produce an Over Dose. WOW... "RUSH" YOU DA MAN ! (He Is Still Alive - Wow !) Are you factoring in increased tolerence over time?? waef... ~ RHF = When All Else Fails... = = Take Off Your Shoes = = = And Count Your Toes ! . . = = = "Frank Dresser" = = = wrote in message ... "RHF" wrote in message om... [snip] Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." I Have Thought About It "KT". Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.] Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive ! It's probably not worth checking out, but I did anyway. I couldn't find the lethal dose of oxycodone, but I did find something on heroin. Just for the sake of arguement, let's say the lethal doses are similar: Depending on purity and the user, a lethal dose of heroin may range from 200 to 500mg, but hardened addicts have survived doses of 1800mg and over." This is from: http://www.drug-overdose.com/heroin.htm So how much oxycodone is in each oxycontin pill? "It is supplied in 10 mg, 20 mg, 40 mg, 80 mg, and 160 mg tablet strengths for oral administration." The website says the 40 mg pills are the most commonly abused. Oxycontin, unlike heroin, is a time release drug. "Taking broken, chewed, or crushed tablets could lead to the rapid release and absorption of a potentially toxic dose of oxycodone." These quotes are from: http://www.stopoxycontinaddiction.co...ontin-pill.htm I'll assume Rush wasn't chewing or grinding and snorting the pills. The original poster didn't support his claim, but hundreds of pills in a weekend aren't inconceiveable. It would take a fistful of 10 mg oxycontin pills to have the kick that one 160 mg pill has. I suppose Rush might have been managing the opiate side effects with other drugs. Elvis did. Rush might have been downing vitamins and minerals and other stuff the way bodybuilders and the health food crowd do. "Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998" Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html The TalkLeft site has the headline wrong. Rush wasn't supporting legalizing drugs: "Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs." Did Rush really want to "fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs" with drug tax money? Or was he illustrating the absurdity of the tabacco restrictions? "Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in Prison" Source= http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm There's actually a good point at the drugpolicy site. Prisions aren't drug treatment centers. Rush wasn't personally hijacking trucks or breaking into pharmacies. But he was throwing cash into the criminal culture. Maybe, after this case is worked out, he'll talk about such things as criminalizing drug abuse. I'd like to hear it. But that's not the sort of radio which has given him plenty of money to throw around. "America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, - - - Libertarians say" Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652 Very funny! To quote the Libertarian writer: "The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say, because his ordeal has exposed every drug warrior in America as a rank hypocrite." How true! To be fair to Rush, the drug war rarely came up on his show. So, on this issue, Rush is a low rank hypocrite. "Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories" Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6 "Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen" Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm That's an interesting cite. Among the things it says is: "With appalling chutzpa, the conservative choir has excused Limbaugh's hypocrisy while simultaneously accusing "liberals and the media" of either themselves doing drugs or defending those who do. Indeed, according to the warped logic of one of his most vocal supporters, Limbaugh's hypocrisy is acceptable in large part because of the media's hypocrisy." But to claim Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite one would have to believe the Rush Limbaugh radio character is the same as the real Rush Limbaugh. ssi ~ RHF = = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.) . . . Frank Dresser |
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You're missing the point stupid. The sex offender part is not the key here. Substitute any crime you'd like. What I'm trying to get across is that a law is a law - the dude broke it whether he went to rehab or maybe it's not a deterrent, etc... Intentions don't mean a damn thing. On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:59:45 -0500, BDK wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:57:16 GMT, "Ross Archer" wrote: Do I misunderstand? Is there any value in jailing someone for becoming addicted to pain medication, after he sought rehab? Any value at all??? I thought not. No deterrent value. No rehabilitation value. Huge negative costs. Is there any value in throwing a confessed sex offender in jail? After they sought help a few times? Any value at all? Can't deter a sex offender right? Can they be rehabilitated? Costs? It's not a question of liberal/conservative values. Who could give a flying F about how those ideals apply to this argument. If a law was broken - pay the consequences. If not - no problem. If anything, he's not a victim of his politics - just a victim of being famous. Regards. Equating sex offenders with drug addiction is just plain nuts. The drug laws are totally out of whack. BDK |
N8KDV,
"Are you factoring in increased tolerence over time??" Oh No ! Now I have to take off my shoes again. jftfoi ~ RHF .. .. = = = N8KDV = = = wrote in message ... RHF wrote: FD, Lets Do The Math (LDTM): Most Common "Oxycodone" Dosage is 40 mg and taken 3-6 Times a Day. = = = Three to Six Pills a Day. (Maximum of Six Pills.) Maximum "Oxycodone" Dosage is 160 mg and taken 3-6 Times a Day. = = = Dosage Factor: 160 mg divided by 40 mg Equals Four Times (4X) Using your Heron Over Dose Numbers: = Base Dose 200 mg = OverDose 1800 mg = "OD" Factor: Nine Times (9X) Resulting Conclusion: 216 @ 40 mg Pills 1. Maximum of Six Pills 2. Dosage Factor Equals Four Times (4X) 3. "OD" Factor: Nine Times (9X) TBL: 6 X 4 X 9 = 216 Pills in a Day should produce an Over Dose. WOW... "RUSH" YOU DA MAN ! (He Is Still Alive - Wow !) Are you factoring in increased tolerence over time?? waef... ~ RHF = When All Else Fails... = = Take Off Your Shoes = = = And Count Your Toes ! . . = = = "Frank Dresser" = = = wrote in message ... "RHF" wrote in message om... [snip] Once again let us remember "KT" Says (Writes): "Rush would take several hundred pills on a weekend - several hundred - think about it." I Have Thought About It "KT". Lets get Real Here "KT" Several Hundred of Any One of these Pills would be a Death Sentence (Life Ending Drug Over Dose) for Anyone [.] Last Time I Checked: Rush Is Alive ! It's probably not worth checking out, but I did anyway. I couldn't find the lethal dose of oxycodone, but I did find something on heroin. Just for the sake of arguement, let's say the lethal doses are similar: Depending on purity and the user, a lethal dose of heroin may range from 200 to 500mg, but hardened addicts have survived doses of 1800mg and over." This is from: http://www.drug-overdose.com/heroin.htm So how much oxycodone is in each oxycontin pill? "It is supplied in 10 mg, 20 mg, 40 mg, 80 mg, and 160 mg tablet strengths for oral administration." The website says the 40 mg pills are the most commonly abused. Oxycontin, unlike heroin, is a time release drug. "Taking broken, chewed, or crushed tablets could lead to the rapid release and absorption of a potentially toxic dose of oxycodone." These quotes are from: http://www.stopoxycontinaddiction.co...ontin-pill.htm I'll assume Rush wasn't chewing or grinding and snorting the pills. The original poster didn't support his claim, but hundreds of pills in a weekend aren't inconceiveable. It would take a fistful of 10 mg oxycontin pills to have the kick that one 160 mg pill has. I suppose Rush might have been managing the opiate side effects with other drugs. Elvis did. Rush might have been downing vitamins and minerals and other stuff the way bodybuilders and the health food crowd do. "Rush Limbaugh Supported Legalizing Drugs in 12 March 1998" Source= http://www.talkleft.com/archives/004605.html The TalkLeft site has the headline wrong. Rush wasn't supporting legalizing drugs: "Raise the price sky high and fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs." Did Rush really want to "fund all sorts of other wonderful social programs" with drug tax money? Or was he illustrating the absurdity of the tabacco restrictions? "Drug Policy Alliance Urges Rush Limbaugh to Use Power and Influence to Benefit Hundreds of Thousands of Fellow Addicts Languishing in Prison" Source= http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/press.../pr1118b03.cfm There's actually a good point at the drugpolicy site. Prisions aren't drug treatment centers. Rush wasn't personally hijacking trucks or breaking into pharmacies. But he was throwing cash into the criminal culture. Maybe, after this case is worked out, he'll talk about such things as criminalizing drug abuse. I'd like to hear it. But that's not the sort of radio which has given him plenty of money to throw around. "America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, - - - Libertarians say" Source= http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php?...iew&record=652 Very funny! To quote the Libertarian writer: "The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say, because his ordeal has exposed every drug warrior in America as a rank hypocrite." How true! To be fair to Rush, the drug war rarely came up on his show. So, on this issue, Rush is a low rank hypocrite. "Rush Limbaugh Statement on Prescription Pain Medication Stories" Make-A-Shorter-Link URL-Key= http://makeashorterlink.com/?X48B313E6 "Rush Limbaugh and the Hypocrisy Smokescreen" Source= http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1018-04.htm That's an interesting cite. Among the things it says is: "With appalling chutzpa, the conservative choir has excused Limbaugh's hypocrisy while simultaneously accusing "liberals and the media" of either themselves doing drugs or defending those who do. Indeed, according to the warped logic of one of his most vocal supporters, Limbaugh's hypocrisy is acceptable in large part because of the media's hypocrisy." But to claim Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite one would have to believe the Rush Limbaugh radio character is the same as the real Rush Limbaugh. ssi ~ RHF = = = So Say I (My Personal Opinons and Beliefs Stated As Facts.) . . . Frank Dresser -- |
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