Perhaps they need to unravel the mystery of the organism that causes the
problem so they can find a means of defeating it. Meanwhile, it needs to be
put in the laboratory and out of the political arena, because they will
otherwise make no progress against the disease. My father died from
complications of Parkinson's Disease. One of the causes that are suspected
in that disease are chemical exposure. I guess keeping things like steroids
and antibiotics and chemicals out of the food supply would be helpful, but
it is going to be an uphill battle as long as money plays such a prominent
role things. You are what you eat - I don't want to eat downer cows etc.

"JJ" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:

Soames 123,

Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease -=V=- "Mad Cow Disease"

These two Disease 'appear' to be Related in Form ONLY.
Note: They are NOT 'variations' of the same form of "Disease".

Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease occurs in about One-in-a-Million persons.

The distribution of Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease appears to be
evenly distributed throughout the World across all social strata,
ethnic groups and racial populations.
NOTE: This translates to about 300 Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
Patients in the USofA.

To talk about Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease and people who are victims
of it and then try and link "Mad Cow Disease" to it is Stupid,
Dumb and just plain Dishonest [.]

There are Medical Tests that can determine if an individual human
patient or animal has one or other of these two diseases.

My brother-in-law died last November of CJD. The symptoms began showing
up in early summer as trembling of his hands. The doctors diagnosed
everything from a small stroke to a brain tumor. Test ruled everything
out. By October he had double vision and mussle weakness. It progressed
very rapidly. Eventually a sample of spinal fluid provided the diagnoses
of CJD.
CJD, BSE, and CWD (chronic wasting disease) are very similar in that
they attack the brain and nervous system the same way.
Last year, my brother-in-law who was an avid hunter, was doing some
target practice on his farm. He set up a target in front of a bunch of
trees and bushes. When he shot, he though he saw something fall and went
to investigate and he had shot a deer that he could not see as it was
behing the target. He had the deer processed as he like venison, he did
not have it tested for CWD. I don't know and don't really think there is
a connection (these diseases usually take a long time to develop) and
the doctors said his CJD was not food related, but it does makes one
wonder.

"Maximus" wrote in
link.net:

Yes, but therein lies the rub, the causative agent isn't an organism, it
appears to be some form of deranged protein.

Apparently the cremation of the animal carcasses in England was
insufficient to render the protein safe for exposure. Cooking it out
will definitely not work.

Though I offer my condolence in the passing of your Father, I do not
believe that the two diseases should be compared.

As devastating as Parkinsons was to you, (and your Father), the
progression of the CJD is so rapid (after the latency period), the agent
is so little understood, and with the possibility of a multitude of
cases occurring simultaneously in the future, CJD deserves immediate
attention. I believe that the government will have us eating tainted
meat rather than risk the negative impact that Mad Cow Disease will have
on the economy. If CJD has an average latency period of 40 years, what
would the current politicians care, since they will likely have
naturally expired by the time the full impact of CJD would manifest.

Although we may be inconvenienced by higher meat prices, henceforth
higher McDonalds et al. prices, the salvation of people's lives and
health outweigh the need for an expedited economic recovery. The
assurance that the meat is genuinely free from the Prion said to cause
CJD is absolutely necessary, not an assurance based on speculation of
the cow's country of purchase. Behold your grandchildren, you would not
wish that fast food hamburger (or pepperoni, etc.) to be their death
warrant when they reach 40 years old.

Parkinsons needs federal money for medical research, CJD, at least at
this point, needs prevention through diligent processing of food.

Dr. Artaud



Perhaps they need to unravel the mystery of the organism that causes
the problem so they can find a means of defeating it. Meanwhile, it
needs to be put in the laboratory and out of the political arena,
because they will otherwise make no progress against the disease. My
father died from complications of Parkinson's Disease. One of the
causes that are suspected in that disease are chemical exposure. I
guess keeping things like steroids and antibiotics and chemicals out
of the food supply would be helpful, but it is going to be an uphill
battle as long as money plays such a prominent role things. You are
what you eat - I don't want to eat downer cows etc.


--
To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny
fist of the all or nothing."

"Doctor Artaud" wrote in message
...
"Maximus" wrote in
link.net:

Yes, but therein lies the rub, the causative agent isn't an organism, it
appears to be some form of deranged protein.

Apparently the cremation of the animal carcasses in England was
insufficient to render the protein safe for exposure. Cooking it out
will definitely not work.

Maybe too little, too late, or maybe salvation.. but I heard on the news a
while ago that the government has just placed a ban on all neural materials
in cattle, including brain, spinal cord, etc. as "unfit for human
consumption" and making it illegal to have even trace amounts of this in the
food supply.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in
:

Me thinkst that a deficit in neural materials is common in politics.

Chuck Harder, on the shortwave show "Power to the People" has a guest
tonight. His guest maintains a web site, www.madcowboy.com discussing
BSE from the cattle rancher perspective.

As the guest prepared for his discussion of "Mechanically Separated
Meat", the powers that be (nature) decided to largely nix my shortwave
reception. Anyway, this is a cattle rancher that doesn't eat meat.

Chuck asked him why people could eat "cannibal sandwiches" years ago,
but the idea of safe ground meat seems so distant now.

I remember eating small hand rolled pieces of ground raw meat when I was
young, something that today I don't believe I could do, even if it were
safe.

The guest also went on to say that in some analyzed hamburgers, it is
estimated that there are parts of meat from 400 to 1000 cows.

Nice.

Anyway, the idea of eating ground muscle tissue from animals is becoming
less palatable as I age. When I was younger, I never thought I'd tire of
hamburgers.

The guest also went on to warn that unsuitable meat can be consumed from
unexpected places, such as pepperoni and sausage on pizza.

Dr. Artaud





Maybe too little, too late, or maybe salvation.. but I heard on the
news a while ago that the government has just placed a ban on all
neural materials in cattle, including brain, spinal cord, etc. as
"unfit for human consumption" and making it illegal to have even trace
amounts of this in the food supply.



--
To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny
fist of the all or nothing."

I see that the Dept. of Agriculture just invoked new rules affecting beef
processing to address the "mad cow" disease problem.

No more "downer cows" (cows that can't make it to slaughter under their own
power due to injury or sickness), and no more processing brains, spinal
tissue, eyes, and intestines for use in food.

-- Stinger

"Doctor Artaud" wrote in message
...
"Maximus" wrote in
link.net:

Yes, but therein lies the rub, the causative agent isn't an organism, it
appears to be some form of deranged protein.

Apparently the cremation of the animal carcasses in England was
insufficient to render the protein safe for exposure. Cooking it out
will definitely not work.

Though I offer my condolence in the passing of your Father, I do not
believe that the two diseases should be compared.

As devastating as Parkinsons was to you, (and your Father), the
progression of the CJD is so rapid (after the latency period), the agent
is so little understood, and with the possibility of a multitude of
cases occurring simultaneously in the future, CJD deserves immediate
attention. I believe that the government will have us eating tainted
meat rather than risk the negative impact that Mad Cow Disease will have
on the economy. If CJD has an average latency period of 40 years, what
would the current politicians care, since they will likely have
naturally expired by the time the full impact of CJD would manifest.

Although we may be inconvenienced by higher meat prices, henceforth
higher McDonalds et al. prices, the salvation of people's lives and
health outweigh the need for an expedited economic recovery. The
assurance that the meat is genuinely free from the Prion said to cause
CJD is absolutely necessary, not an assurance based on speculation of
the cow's country of purchase. Behold your grandchildren, you would not
wish that fast food hamburger (or pepperoni, etc.) to be their death
warrant when they reach 40 years old.

Parkinsons needs federal money for medical research, CJD, at least at
this point, needs prevention through diligent processing of food.

Dr. Artaud



Perhaps they need to unravel the mystery of the organism that causes
the problem so they can find a means of defeating it. Meanwhile, it
needs to be put in the laboratory and out of the political arena,
because they will otherwise make no progress against the disease. My
father died from complications of Parkinson's Disease. One of the
causes that are suspected in that disease are chemical exposure. I
guess keeping things like steroids and antibiotics and chemicals out
of the food supply would be helpful, but it is going to be an uphill
battle as long as money plays such a prominent role things. You are
what you eat - I don't want to eat downer cows etc.


--
To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny
fist of the all or nothing."

Brenda Ann, we seem to have posted the same thing at the same time ;^)

-- Stinger

"Stinger" wrote in message
.. .
I see that the Dept. of Agriculture just invoked new rules affecting beef
processing to address the "mad cow" disease problem.

No more "downer cows" (cows that can't make it to slaughter under their
own
power due to injury or sickness), and no more processing brains, spinal
tissue, eyes, and intestines for use in food.

-- Stinger

"Doctor Artaud" wrote in message
...
"Maximus" wrote in
link.net:

Yes, but therein lies the rub, the causative agent isn't an organism, it
appears to be some form of deranged protein.

Apparently the cremation of the animal carcasses in England was
insufficient to render the protein safe for exposure. Cooking it out
will definitely not work.

Though I offer my condolence in the passing of your Father, I do not
believe that the two diseases should be compared.

As devastating as Parkinsons was to you, (and your Father), the
progression of the CJD is so rapid (after the latency period), the agent
is so little understood, and with the possibility of a multitude of
cases occurring simultaneously in the future, CJD deserves immediate
attention. I believe that the government will have us eating tainted
meat rather than risk the negative impact that Mad Cow Disease will have
on the economy. If CJD has an average latency period of 40 years, what
would the current politicians care, since they will likely have
naturally expired by the time the full impact of CJD would manifest.

Although we may be inconvenienced by higher meat prices, henceforth
higher McDonalds et al. prices, the salvation of people's lives and
health outweigh the need for an expedited economic recovery. The
assurance that the meat is genuinely free from the Prion said to cause
CJD is absolutely necessary, not an assurance based on speculation of
the cow's country of purchase. Behold your grandchildren, you would not
wish that fast food hamburger (or pepperoni, etc.) to be their death
warrant when they reach 40 years old.

Parkinsons needs federal money for medical research, CJD, at least at
this point, needs prevention through diligent processing of food.

Dr. Artaud



Perhaps they need to unravel the mystery of the organism that causes
the problem so they can find a means of defeating it. Meanwhile, it
needs to be put in the laboratory and out of the political arena,
because they will otherwise make no progress against the disease. My
father died from complications of Parkinson's Disease. One of the
causes that are suspected in that disease are chemical exposure. I
guess keeping things like steroids and antibiotics and chemicals out
of the food supply would be helpful, but it is going to be an uphill
battle as long as money plays such a prominent role things. You are
what you eat - I don't want to eat downer cows etc.


--
To know and to be, this is not even a question, there is no alternative.
You see it clearly in the loneliest little avenues between particles and
waves, shunned even by the gregarious quark and unknown by the various
strands of time, so big it cannot be seen, yet so little it is
immovable, lies the fabric of the ultimate reality gripped in the tiny
fist of the all or nothing."