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Sara January 5th 04 02:15 AM

Icom IC-R75 Question
 
I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.

Telamon January 5th 04 03:45 AM

In article ,
(Sara) wrote:

I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.


If you have Kiwa do the work you don't have to solder.

As you have discovered the R75 is a capable SSB receiver but not so
good for AM broadcasts. There are several modifications you can pay
Kiwa to make on the radio so it will perform better on AM broadcasts.
Here is the link
http://www.kiwa.com/R75.html

Here are some of the upgrades you might consider:

Synchronous Detector Upgrade $45.00 Audio Upgrade $35.00 High Fidelity
Audio Filter Upgrade $35.00

The filter issue is a little tricky with this radio. You will need to
maintain a filter ~ 2.4 to 2.8 KHz for average SSB conditions and you
will need to have one at ~ 4 to 6 KHz for AM high fidelity. In addition
you will need to adjust both pass-band controls so either the upper or
lower sideband is fully in the radios pass-band.

You will void the radios warranty by having it modified.

Get an external bookshelf speaker and / or headphones will also help
the audio fidelity.

There is a Yahoo news groups devoted to this topic by the way.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/messages

Good luck with the upgrades.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Soames123 January 5th 04 11:43 AM

Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??



I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.






Kenneth January 5th 04 02:33 PM

(Soames123) wrote in message ...
Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??



I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.

Ask the question in the R75 yahoo group.

Kenneth January 5th 04 02:55 PM

(Soames123) wrote in message ...
Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??


I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.

Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??

I have some more questions,What is the first letter of your little
brother name "S" or "L".Why you start a new tread with the same "Icom
R-75 question" name? Are you having problems with "programs in AM it
doesn't seem as listenable" hummmmmmm what programs, Just curiosity.

N8KDV January 5th 04 05:11 PM



Kenneth wrote:

(Soames123) wrote in message ...
Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??


I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.

Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??

I have some more questions,What is the first letter of your little
brother name "S" or "L".Why you start a new tread


It's called a 're-tread' Kenneth. ;-)

with the same "Icom
R-75 question" name? Are you having problems with "programs in AM it
doesn't seem as listenable" hummmmmmm what programs, Just curiosity.



RHF January 5th 04 10:08 PM

SFA,

Go to the Icom IC-R75 eGroup on YAHOO!
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/

There you will get some Helpful Advise and Useful Information
from other Icom IC-R75 Owners.

Half of what you get here will be digs and put downs from those
NewGroup Members who DO NOT LIKE the Icom IC-R75 Receiver.

FWIW: The Kiwa Mods are very good and make the Icom IC-R75 a better
Receiver.
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/files/R75%20mods/
Eleven separate Files of specific Modifications for the Icom IC-R75.

IMHO: An using an External Speaker with the Icom IC-R75 is a MUST !
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/message/4360
The Most Often Recommended External Speakers for the Icom IC-R75. That
were Suggested as working well with the Icom IC-R75 by the Members of
the eGroup.

TIP: Check-Out "Phil's R75 Cookbook" [PhilCook.pdf]
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr7...l%27s%20Shack/
In Phil's R75 Cookbook you will find many Helpful Hints on
"How To Get The Best Out Of Your Icom IC-R75".


tMr ~ RHF
= = = Thats "MY" Radio! - The Icom IC-R75.
..
..
= = =
= = = (Sara) wrote in message . com...

I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.

..

Kenneth January 5th 04 11:50 PM

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:

(Soames123) wrote in message ...
Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??


I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.
Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?

- Try some external PC speakers;

Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??

I have some more questions,What is the first letter of your little
brother name "S" or "L".Why you start a new tread


It's called a 're-tread' Kenneth. ;-)

Thanks for the clarification, Steve.

N8KDV January 5th 04 11:57 PM



Kenneth wrote:

I have some more questions,What is the first letter of your little
brother name "S" or "L".Why you start a new tread


It's called a 're-tread' Kenneth. ;-)

Thanks for the clarification, Steve.


No problem, my ICOM loving fellow listener.



Sara January 6th 04 05:41 AM

I have not installed the DSP yet. Will the DSP make much difference
for AM listening?

Sara

(Sara) wrote in message . com...
I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.


GrtPmpkin32 January 6th 04 06:20 AM

I have not installed the DSP yet. Will the DSP make much difference
for AM listening?


Maybe. For my use, when listening to the AM band, most of the time a good loop
antenna or a phased array of antennas does far more for killing noise and
nulling unwanted stations than any DSP could hope to do... BUT... sometimes the
mild (conservative) use of the DSP noise reduction CAN help get rid of the last
bits of unwanted noise after I've done what I can with the antenna and other
settings.
Icom's DSP unit (UT106) also has an automatic notch filter which works very
well, killing whistling and whining which comes from two or more stations
bashing into each other on the same frequency. Without the UT106, the notch
feature is inoperable. But that notch filter on the DSP unit does WONDERS on
crowded amateur and int'l broadcast bands. I use that feature quite a bit, and
it's only available with the UT106 installed.
Bottom line is, if you already have the DSP unit, it's easy to install (no
soldering, just a few turns with a screwdriver) and you might as well have it
there, ready for those times when you DO need it. If you don't already have it
at hand, you may wish to do a good bit of AM listening first, to see if you
need anything more. I'd say install it, or if you're not comfortable doing it
yourself, find someone you trust to do it for you.


Soliloquy January 8th 04 09:12 PM

(Sara) wrote in
om:

Refer to
http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/icr75.html and read closely. The
review is actually 3 links long (see the "continue reading" at the bottom
of each page) and would actually consist of:

http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/icr75.html
http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/icr75a.html
http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/icr75b.html

I have the R-75 and the Yaesu FRG-100. Both are very admirable receivers.

Regards.

Article excerpts.


"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode, we note instances on weaker signals where the noise
reduction works to some degree in the AM mode."

"Spot the Difference with the Sync

What is the singular failing of this receiver? In our opinion, there is
virtually no difference between synchronous AM and AM reception. The
synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband. The Lowe HF-150 synchronous modes and
performance are far superior. We urge that ICOM correct the synchronous
performance in future models and make available a retrofit ROM available
to current customers.

Fortunately all is not lost here. As the receiver's SSB reception is
quite good, in difficult or crowded band conditions, we simply tune in
the appropriate sideband of the desired signal and, if necessary, adjust
the PBT controls."



I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.




--
Never say never.
Nothing is absolute.

Sara January 14th 04 09:15 AM

Sara:

- What shortwave Programs on AM
( frequencies & times) are hard to hear?


Actually I like to tune around to see what I can hear. No real
favorites yet. Nothing seems to come in real good.


- Try some external PC speakers;


Will do.

Sara


Harvey

- PS: Does your little brother have trouble at school or has he changed his
name ??



I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.




Sara January 14th 04 09:27 AM

Go to the Icom IC-R75 eGroup on YAHOO!
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/



FWIW: The Kiwa Mods are very good and make the Icom IC-R75 a better
Receiver.


Ok, I guess it's Kiwa not Kiwi. Should I just get all the Kiwa mods? I
listen to 7150 - 7300 in daytime lsb. I want to hear BBC, Radio
Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, maybe some Africans.

GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/files/R75%20mods/
Eleven separate Files of specific Modifications for the Icom IC-R75.

IMHO: An using an External Speaker with the Icom IC-R75 is a MUST !


I have a cheap Radio Shack speaker hooked up and that helped A LOT! I
haven't installed the DSP yet. My Icom sounds good in lsb but AM is
just not as clear. Perhaps I don't have something set right? Filter
settings?

GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/message/4360
The Most Often Recommended External Speakers for the Icom IC-R75. That
were Suggested as working well with the Icom IC-R75 by the Members of
the eGroup.

TIP: Check-Out "Phil's R75 Cookbook" [PhilCook.pdf]
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr7...l%27s%20Shack/
In Phil's R75 Cookbook you will find many Helpful Hints on
"How To Get The Best Out Of Your Icom IC-R75".


Yes, I've been reading it. Thank you so much for helping.

Sara



tMr ~ RHF
= = = Thats "MY" Radio! - The Icom IC-R75.


Sara January 14th 04 09:41 AM

(GrtPmpkin32) wrote in message ...
I have not installed the DSP yet. Will the DSP make much difference
for AM listening?


Maybe. For my use, when listening to the AM band, most of the time a good loop
antenna or a phased array of antennas does far more for killing noise and
nulling unwanted stations than any DSP could hope to do... BUT... sometimes the


I live in an apartment complex and am using a wire to the red antenna
jack, I think. I thought about connecting it to my rain gutter
somehow.

Sara

mild (conservative) use of the DSP noise reduction CAN help get rid of the last
bits of unwanted noise after I've done what I can with the antenna and other
settings.
Icom's DSP unit (UT106) also has an automatic notch filter which works very
well, killing whistling and whining which comes from two or more stations
bashing into each other on the same frequency. Without the UT106, the notch
feature is inoperable. But that notch filter on the DSP unit does WONDERS on
crowded amateur and int'l broadcast bands. I use that feature quite a bit, and
it's only available with the UT106 installed.
Bottom line is, if you already have the DSP unit, it's easy to install (no
soldering, just a few turns with a screwdriver) and you might as well have it
there, ready for those times when you DO need it. If you don't already have it
at hand, you may wish to do a good bit of AM listening first, to see if you
need anything more. I'd say install it, or if you're not comfortable doing it
yourself, find someone you trust to do it for you.


starman January 14th 04 12:44 PM

Sara wrote:

Go to the Icom IC-R75 eGroup on YAHOO!
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/



FWIW: The Kiwa Mods are very good and make the Icom IC-R75 a better
Receiver.


Ok, I guess it's Kiwa not Kiwi. Should I just get all the Kiwa mods? I
listen to 7150 - 7300 in daytime lsb. I want to hear BBC, Radio
Netherlands, Australia, New Zealand, maybe some Africans.

GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/files/R75%20mods/
Eleven separate Files of specific Modifications for the Icom IC-R75.

IMHO: An using an External Speaker with the Icom IC-R75 is a MUST !


I have a cheap Radio Shack speaker hooked up and that helped A LOT! I
haven't installed the DSP yet. My Icom sounds good in lsb but AM is
just not as clear. Perhaps I don't have something set right? Filter
settings?

GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr75/message/4360
The Most Often Recommended External Speakers for the Icom IC-R75. That
were Suggested as working well with the Icom IC-R75 by the Members of
the eGroup.

TIP: Check-Out "Phil's R75 Cookbook" [PhilCook.pdf]
GoTo= http://groups.yahoo.com/group/icomr7...l%27s%20Shack/
In Phil's R75 Cookbook you will find many Helpful Hints on
"How To Get The Best Out Of Your Icom IC-R75".


Yes, I've been reading it. Thank you so much for helping.

Sara


Hi,

The Yahoo-R75 group are the experts on mod's for your radio. They can
advise you on what mod's are most important. I would suggest the AGC and
sync' detector mod's.
BTW- Soldering is easy to learn and it allows you to do all kinds of
things with electronics. You can get a low power soldering kit at Radio
Shack for about $15.00 If you also buy some componants such as an
assortment of resistors (about $3.00) and a basic printed circuit board
kit, you can practice soldering. You should also learn how to -unsolder-
parts for doing a mod'. This requires a few more tools which RS also
has. If you get really good at it, you might be able to do some of the
mod's on your R75! Have fun.


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GrtPmpkin32 January 14th 04 04:32 PM

I live in an apartment complex and am using a wire to the red antenna
jack, I think. I thought about connecting it to my rain gutter
somehow.


Hehe, just make sure you remove that antenna from the radio when lightning
approaches!
I only mentioned the larger antenna system/phasing as a personal comparison in
my listening experience, please don't think it was a suggestion for you to go
to the trouble to do the same. The DSP function becomes more attractive when
you are using less of an antenna and have more home/apartment/building 'noise'
than other folks. In your case, you should see more help from the DSP's noise
reduction (if used conservatively) than I do, given our differing antenna
set-ups.
Just take a length of wire, attach a little, metal alligator clip to the
outside end, and clip it to your rain gutter wherever it is the closest or most
convenient. The other end of the wire goes into your red clip input on the
radio. Undo that clip connection if there's any lightning, and throw the lead
outside the window (making sure it's retrievable later, of course).
Linus

Kenneth January 15th 04 04:09 PM

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode, we note instances on weaker signals where the noise
reduction works to some degree in the AM mode."

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync

What is the singular failing of this receiver? In our opinion, there is
virtually no difference between synchronous AM and AM reception. The
synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband. This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the 2.4 stock filter and the PBT.

Ken
I just bought a new Icom radio. It seems to be awesome for tuning
around the ham bands in LSB. But when tuning for Shortwave broadcast
programs in AM it doesn't seem as listenable. Do I need to have my
Icom modified? Kiwi mods? Any help appreciated. Please keep it simple.

Sara

PS: I don't solder.


Kenneth January 16th 04 12:08 AM

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode,

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync


synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband.

This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you
can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the
2.4 stock filter and the PBT.

N8KDV January 16th 04 12:42 AM



Kenneth wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode,

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync


synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband.

This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you
can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the
2.4 stock filter and the PBT.


But hey! You can accomplish this in a much handier fashion with the R8B! With a
better sync detector! Plus, you can use any darn filter you want! Just a button
push away! Simplicity!

No mods required! (can you imagine?)

By golly!

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Kenneth January 16th 04 01:11 PM

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode,

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync


synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband.

This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you
can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the
2.4 stock filter and the PBT.


But hey! You can accomplish this in a much handier fashion with the R8B! With a
better sync detector! Plus, you can use any darn filter you want! Just a button
push away! Simplicity!

No mods required! (can you imagine?)

By golly!

Hi Steve:Yes with the R8B is like having a pinto with an automatic
transmission.My toyota [Icom R75]have a manual transmission [339
comparator sync det AGC mod] but with a holley carburator [DSP]and two
reinforcements [2 pre-amps]and an alterated motor with [Pete's MW
attenuator removal mod] 2.4,3.3,4,6khz filters,and pro mechanic Phil,
phidelity mod.An oustanding toyota that surpassed an automatic
pinto[drake R8B]in hard core dxing sometime ago in a "simplicity" way.

N8KDV January 16th 04 01:19 PM



Kenneth wrote:

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode,

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync


synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband.
This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you
can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the
2.4 stock filter and the PBT.


But hey! You can accomplish this in a much handier fashion with the R8B! With a
better sync detector! Plus, you can use any darn filter you want! Just a button
push away! Simplicity!

No mods required! (can you imagine?)

By golly!

Hi Steve:Yes with the R8B is like having a pinto with an automatic
transmission.My toyota [Icom R75]have a manual transmission [339
comparator sync det AGC mod] but with a holley carburator [DSP]and two
reinforcements [2 pre-amps]and an alterated motor with [Pete's MW
attenuator removal mod] 2.4,3.3,4,6khz filters,and pro mechanic Phil,
phidelity mod.An oustanding toyota that surpassed an automatic
pinto[drake R8B]in hard core dxing sometime ago in a "simplicity" way.


LOL... Thanks for getting my day off to a start with a good laugh!

Steve
Holland, MI
Dake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Kenneth January 16th 04 10:44 PM

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode,

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync


synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband.
This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you
can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the
2.4 stock filter and the PBT.

But hey! You can accomplish this in a much handier fashion with the R8B! With a
better sync detector! Plus, you can use any darn filter you want! Just a button
push away! Simplicity!

No mods required! (can you imagine?)

By golly!

Hi Steve:Yes with the R8B is like having a pinto with an automatic
transmission.My toyota [Icom R75]have a manual transmission [339
comparator sync det AGC mod] but with a holley carburator [DSP]and two
reinforcements [2 pre-amps]and an alterated motor with [Pete's MW
attenuator removal mod] 2.4,3.3,4,6khz filters,and pro mechanic Phil,
phidelity mod.An oustanding toyota that surpassed an automatic
pinto[drake R8B]in hard core dxing sometime ago in a "simplicity" way.


LOL... Thanks for getting my day off to a start with a good laugh!

Steve

Hi Steve:Thanks for you nice and friendly [not belligerent
response].In the 2004 you seem to be in good shape with a nice site
and giving good advice to the inexperienced and not quarreling with
anybody [until now].If we don't start a new 2004 radios war again
maybe we can make an arrangement to have a "car race" [hard core live
dxing competition] between my toyota R75 vs pinto R8B soon. For race
judges my recommendations are Starman and Les [from the R8B group] and
Phil and M2 [from the Icom R75 gang. Ken

N8KDV January 16th 04 10:56 PM



Kenneth wrote:

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:

N8KDV wrote in message ...
Kenneth wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work only
in the SSB mode,

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync


synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to choose
the lower or upper sideband.
This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you
can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the
2.4 stock filter and the PBT.

But hey! You can accomplish this in a much handier fashion with the R8B! With a
better sync detector! Plus, you can use any darn filter you want! Just a button
push away! Simplicity!

No mods required! (can you imagine?)

By golly!
Hi Steve:Yes with the R8B is like having a pinto with an automatic
transmission.My toyota [Icom R75]have a manual transmission [339
comparator sync det AGC mod] but with a holley carburator [DSP]and two
reinforcements [2 pre-amps]and an alterated motor with [Pete's MW
attenuator removal mod] 2.4,3.3,4,6khz filters,and pro mechanic Phil,
phidelity mod.An oustanding toyota that surpassed an automatic
pinto[drake R8B]in hard core dxing sometime ago in a "simplicity" way.


LOL... Thanks for getting my day off to a start with a good laugh!

Steve

Hi Steve:Thanks for you nice and friendly [not belligerent
response].In the 2004 you seem to be in good shape with a nice site
and giving good advice to the inexperienced and not quarreling with
anybody [until now].If we don't start a new 2004 radios war again
maybe we can make an arrangement to have a "car race" [hard core live
dxing competition] between my toyota R75 vs pinto R8B soon. For race
judges my recommendations are Starman and Les [from the R8B group] and
Phil and M2 [from the Icom R75 gang. Ken


You don't understand my linguistically challenged friend! You've already lost! No rematches! Thanks
again for the humour!

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm



Telamon January 17th 04 02:44 AM

In article ,
(Kenneth) wrote:

N8KDV wrote in message
...
Kenneth wrote:

Soliloquy wrote in message
"Although the manual clearly states the DSP and ANF functions work
only
in the SSB mode,

The Owners Manual is wrong the DSP and ANF work ok in the AM mode.
"Spot the Difference with the Sync


synchronous mode includes both sidebands; there is no option to
choose
the lower or upper sideband.
This is true in the stock unit but with the kiwa sync det mod you
can chose between lower or sideband in sync AM mode manually using the
2.4 stock filter and the PBT.


But hey! You can accomplish this in a much handier fashion with the R8B!
With a
better sync detector! Plus, you can use any darn filter you want! Just a
button
push away! Simplicity!

No mods required! (can you imagine?)

By golly!

Hi Steve:Yes with the R8B is like having a pinto with an automatic
transmission.My toyota [Icom R75]have a manual transmission [339
comparator sync det AGC mod] but with a holley carburator [DSP]and two
reinforcements [2 pre-amps]and an alterated motor with [Pete's MW
attenuator removal mod] 2.4,3.3,4,6khz filters,and pro mechanic Phil,
phidelity mod.An oustanding toyota that surpassed an automatic
pinto[drake R8B]in hard core dxing sometime ago in a "simplicity" way.


Do you never tire of looking foolish?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

DeWayne January 17th 04 06:05 AM


"Kenneth" wrote in message
om...

LOL... Thanks for getting my day off to a start with a good laugh!

Steve

Hi Steve:Thanks for you nice and friendly [not belligerent
response].In the 2004 you seem to be in good shape with a nice site
and giving good advice to the inexperienced and not quarreling with
anybody [until now].If we don't start a new 2004 radios war again
maybe we can make an arrangement to have a "car race" [hard core live
dxing competition] between my toyota R75 vs pinto R8B soon. For race
judges my recommendations are Starman and Les [from the R8B group] and
Phil and M2 [from the Icom R75 gang. Ken


Phil??????? NO FAIR : )

DeWayne




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