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(OT) Poor Gore
Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades
in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
Hey Cuss, you come from the Democrat side of the family, FOOL
N8KDV wrote: Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
Burr wrote: Hey Cuss, you come from the Democrat side of the family, FOOL Cousin, how did my post imply I was a Democrat? You've been in the sun and heat to long today! N8KDV wrote: Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
You been hanging out on their site
N8KDV wrote: Burr wrote: Hey Cuss, you come from the Democrat side of the family, FOOL Cousin, how did my post imply I was a Democrat? You've been in the sun and heat to long today! N8KDV wrote: Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
Did you know GW=Global Warming g ?
"Burr" wrote in message ... You been hanging out on their site N8KDV wrote: Burr wrote: Hey Cuss, you come from the Democrat side of the family, FOOL Cousin, how did my post imply I was a Democrat? You've been in the sun and heat to long today! N8KDV wrote: Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
Hi Frank, do you remember the old rumors about the russians experimenting
with moving air masses using Haarp type stuff S. Maybe someone IS ... I remember one coldspell where the battery in my camera quit working and the light meter in the camera wouldn't work LOL. |
N8KDV,
Great Picture of Aldrok Goreski with the Fully Spread Fingers "WIW" (We are {I am} the World Posturing before a Map of the World like Stalin on May Day in Red Square. Hey may be "Super Al" should run for the Secretary General of the UN. I Vote For That :o) When it comes to Global Warming... Maybe Mother Nature is trying to tell Al to Chill Out Dude ! Big Time ! Al Gore the 'prototype' "Metrosexual" (Hell He Invented Himself :o) http://www.wordspy.com/words/metrosexual.asp ~ RHF .. .. = = = N8KDV = = = wrote in message ... Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B .. |
Sure. I make ice cubes in my oven all the time. Also boil water in my
freezer. "Frank White" wrote in message ... Actually, you could make a convincing argument that it IS because of global warming, and the shifting in weather patterns (especially the artic jet stream) that people are freezing body parts off in the northeast right now. You start mucking with the environment, you're going to get ALL sort of interesting effects... And, just to stay on topic: Shortwave. FW |
"CW" wrote in message
... Sure. I make ice cubes in my oven all the time. Also boil water in my freezer. Then you'll know that fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland is less dense than warm seawater coming up to Europe from the Carribbean. Consequently, it is possible for global warming to cut off the "Gulf Stream" and plunge western Europe into an ice age. There are all sorts of counter-intuitive possibilities caused by global warming. Anyway, shortwave. Ian, Renfrew, Scotland. |
There is a theory ( I believe) relating to melting of the Artic ice caps,
and the cold mel****er from that changing the gulf stream moving it to the south resulting in colder weather for the Northeast.. Big Complicated System we're dealing with I think I see a Wooly Mammoth out there ! Sharpening up my Spear Tips.. Dan In article , (Frank White) writes: Actually, you could make a convincing argument that it IS because of global warming, and the shifting in weather patterns (especially the artic jet stream) that people are freezing body parts off in the northeast right now. You start mucking with the environment, you're going to get ALL sort of interesting effects... And, just to stay on topic: Shortwave. |
Right:
This is what I was talking about..fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland being lighter than warm seawater coming up from the Carribbean. possibly cutting off the "Gulf Stream" and plungeing western Europe into an ice age.. among other things.. Dan ( Listening to radio canada 9.515) In article , "Ian Smith" writes: Then you'll know that fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland is less dense than warm seawater coming up to Europe from the Carribbean. Consequently, it is possible for global warming to cut off the "Gulf Stream" and plunge western Europe into an ice age. There are all sorts of counter-intuitive possibilities caused by global warming. Anyway, shortwave. Ian, Renfrew, Scotland. |
Diverd4777 wrote: Right: This is what I was talking about..fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland being lighter than warm seawater coming up from the Carribbean. possibly cutting off the "Gulf Stream" and plungeing western Europe into an ice age.. among other things.. Dan ( Listening to radio canada 9.515) One thing is for sure, there is no such thing as 'Global Warming' , at least anything caused by man. Al wasn't wearing his tin-foil hat yesterday, I wonder why? In article , "Ian Smith" writes: Then you'll know that fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland is less dense than warm seawater coming up to Europe from the Carribbean. Consequently, it is possible for global warming to cut off the "Gulf Stream" and plunge western Europe into an ice age. There are all sorts of counter-intuitive possibilities caused by global warming. Anyway, shortwave. Ian, Renfrew, Scotland. |
In article , N8KDV
writes: One thing is for sure, there is no such thing as 'Global Warming' , at least anything caused by man. I believe, even the Bush White House has conceded that man has had an effect on the earths overall climate; the exact repercussions to be seen as they happen, or are happening now it is a very complicated problem. It is cold out, we agree on that at least.. |
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Burr wrote: You been hanging out on their site So, you think the Drudge Report is a Democratic site? N8KDV wrote: Burr wrote: Hey Cuss, you come from the Democrat side of the family, FOOL Cousin, how did my post imply I was a Democrat? You've been in the sun and heat to long today! N8KDV wrote: Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
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Diverd4777 wrote: In article , N8KDV writes: One thing is for sure, there is no such thing as 'Global Warming' , at least anything caused by man. I believe, even the Bush White House has conceded that man has had an effect on the earths overall climate; the exact repercussions to be seen as they happen, or are happening now it is a very complicated problem. It is cold out, we agree on that at least.. Yes, it is cold. 11 degrees here, but I guess you got it worse farther east. Only thing keeping us a bit warmer here is Lake Michigan. It is much colder inland. |
Goofy Al strikes again!
"N8KDV" wrote in message ... Al Gore set to give speech on Global Warming on Coldest Day in Decades in New York City! http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm Gotta laugh! Even if you love Al Gore. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
I think the DNA is so degraded over all these years that they'd end up with
much more current day elephant than 10-20,000 year old Woolly Mammoth... if they even got that far.. - STILL.. It's worth a try . . . Weren't scientists going to try to resurrect the Mammoths by taking DNA from frozen Mammoths and using it to create clones? I thought I heard that. I wonder how they're doing. It'd be neat to see a live Wooly Mammoth... |
In article , N8KDV
writes: It is cold out, we agree on that at least.. Yes, it is cold. 11 degrees here, but I guess you got it worse farther east. Only thing keeping us a bit warmer here is Lake Michigan. It is much colder inland. Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... |
Diverd4777,
"large mass of mammoth fleas" How MAMMOTH are Mommoth Fleas - One Wonders :o) ~ RHF .. .. = = = (Diverd4777) = = = wrote in message ... In article , N8KDV writes: It is cold out, we agree on that at least.. Yes, it is cold. 11 degrees here, but I guess you got it worse farther east. Only thing keeping us a bit warmer here is Lake Michigan. It is much colder inland. Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... |
N8KDV,
"One thing is for sure, there is no such thing as 'Global Warming', at least anything caused by man." The Simply Fact is "Global Warming" is a Man Made Event [.] [The Reality is "Global Warming" is a Man Invented Event. ] Everytime a Politician Opens his/her Mouth We Get More "Global Warming" ! Therefore we must Reduce the Number of Politicians with Open Mouths. Reduce each Politicians Open Mouths Time. Require Politicians to Be Honest and Only Talk out of their A**Holes. { This Gas we Can Burn As Fuel. } Eliminate Politicians by the the Year 2020 so we can see straight. { Convert over to Senior Statespersons who don't say much at all. } jftfoi ~ RHF .. .. = = = N8KDV = = = wrote in message ... Diverd4777 wrote: Right: This is what I was talking about..fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland being lighter than warm seawater coming up from the Carribbean. possibly cutting off the "Gulf Stream" and plungeing western Europe into an ice age.. among other things.. Dan ( Listening to radio canada 9.515) One thing is for sure, there is no such thing as 'Global Warming' , at least anything caused by man. Al wasn't wearing his tin-foil hat yesterday, I wonder why? In article , "Ian Smith" writes: Then you'll know that fresh arctic mel****er from Greenland is less dense than warm seawater coming up to Europe from the Carribbean. Consequently, it is possible for global warming to cut off the "Gulf Stream" and plunge western Europe into an ice age. There are all sorts of counter-intuitive possibilities caused by global warming. Anyway, shortwave. Ian, Renfrew, Scotland. |
There was a state (don't remember which one) that, a few years ago, passed a
law that politicians could not lie. The supreme court overturned it saying that they had a constitutional right to lie. "RHF" wrote in message Require Politicians to Be Honest and Only Talk out of their A**Holes. |
IT's a MAMMOTH problem LOL.
V Solidarity "Diverd4777" wrote in message ... There is a theory ( I believe) relating to melting of the Artic ice caps, and the cold mel****er from that changing the gulf stream moving it to the south resulting in colder weather for the Northeast.. Big Complicated System we're dealing with I think I see a Wooly Mammoth out there ! Sharpening up my Spear Tips.. Dan In article , (Frank White) writes: Actually, you could make a convincing argument that it IS because of global warming, and the shifting in weather patterns (especially the artic jet stream) that people are freezing body parts off in the northeast right now. You start mucking with the environment, you're going to get ALL sort of interesting effects... And, just to stay on topic: Shortwave. |
Diverd4777 wrote:
Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it
right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling and we were heading for another ice age. "starman" wrote in message ... Diverd4777 wrote: Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm.
CW wrote: If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling and we were heading for another ice age. "starman" wrote in message ... Diverd4777 wrote: Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
Except economic. A lot of the proposed "fixes" are impractical.
"starman" wrote in message ... There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm. CW wrote: If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling and we were heading for another ice age. "starman" wrote in message ... Diverd4777 wrote: Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
That's the big question, whether we are willing to accept some negative
impacts on certain areas of the economy in the long term interest of the planet. The US is not known for doing particularly well in that regard. The long term interests of our corporations seldom extends beyond the next business quarter. CW wrote: Except economic. A lot of the proposed "fixes" are impractical. "starman" wrote in message ... There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm. CW wrote: If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling and we were heading for another ice age. "starman" wrote in message ... Diverd4777 wrote: Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
Prove that it is in the long term interest. That is all that anyone is
asking. No proof has been offered yet. Nothing but supposition. "starman" wrote in message ... That's the big question, whether we are willing to accept some negative impacts on certain areas of the economy in the long term interest of the planet. The US is not known for doing particularly well in that regard. The long term interests of our corporations seldom extends beyond the next business quarter. CW wrote: Except economic. A lot of the proposed "fixes" are impractical. "starman" wrote in message ... There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm. CW wrote: If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling and we were heading for another ice age. "starman" wrote in message ... Diverd4777 wrote: Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
And, of course, they will offer no proof. Just supposition the way they
always have. Brother stair has been predicting the end of the world. Do you believe that too? "Leonard Martin" wrote in message t... A major group scientific reports co-authored for the UN by many respected scientists asserted that global warming was occurring several years ago. Recently a large number of scientists from many disciplines signed onto a report to the same effect. It will be published in the magazine "Nature" soon I believe, or may already have been published there. Leonar In article , "CW" wrote: Prove that it is in the long term interest. That is all that anyone is asking. No proof has been offered yet. Nothing but supposition. "starman" wrote in message ... That's the big question, whether we are willing to accept some negative impacts on certain areas of the economy in the long term interest of the planet. The US is not known for doing particularly well in that regard. The long term interests of our corporations seldom extends beyond the next business quarter. CW wrote: Except economic. A lot of the proposed "fixes" are impractical. "starman" wrote in message ... There is a good chance we could at least do no more harm. CW wrote: If you don't know what you are doing, there is little chance you will do it right. When I was a teenager, they were saying that the planet was cooling and we were heading for another ice age. "starman" wrote in message ... Diverd4777 wrote: Got down to 1 at around midnight, then started to "warm up".. 14 degrees outside now. Big " Pack Ice " out on the Hudson River, all quite scenic With the increase in atmospheric Carbon Dioxide in the last 100 years, it's tempting to leap over & make direct assertions about what this, and other " greenhouse gas" is doing.. If We are like fleas on a mamoth, a few causes no disturbance, but if you get a large mass of mammoth fleas, they will cause some disturbance. where and when and how much is not readily predictable, but the mammoth will eventually react . Discerning signal to noise with C02 / Dust build up , etc. over the last 100 years ,is difficult... Of course the problem is by the time we figure it out it could be too late to do anything about it. We may have already reached the point of no return but we won't realize it for several more decades. That's why even the hardest skeptics are beginning to concede that we must err on the side of caution. The stakes are just too high to do otherwise. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- -- "Everything that rises must converge" --Flannery O'Connor |
From: "CW"
And, of course, they will offer no proof. Just supposition the way they always have. Brother stair has been predicting the end of the world. Do you believe that too? CW, If you really believe that global warming climate research is on par with one of Brother Stair's predictions you are ignoring the consensus of world scientists and the quiet admissions of your own right-wing administration: Consensus of world scientists support global warming http://www.law.pace.edu/env/energy/globalwarming.html Bush administration efforts recognize global warming http://www.globalchange.gov/ Global warming: Early warning signs http://www.climatehotmap.org/ Bush's EPA fact page on climate research http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...t/Climate.html Bush's State Dept: Co2 Control Helps Economy http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ceCenterPublic ationsUSClimateActionReport.html Most people would opt to be, at least, precautious. You really should stop basing your scientific conclusions on the babbling of right-wing AM talk show hosts. (Just to make this OT! ;-) I had a debate team win a national championship suggesting that using the marketplace to trade emission allottments would spur conservation and spur the economy. The evidence is strong. Please list your counter-URLs so we can compare the quality of opposing evidentiary sources. I have 1000s more URLs if you're interested... Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: "CW" And, of course, they will offer no proof. Just supposition the way they always have. Brother stair has been predicting the end of the world. Do you believe that too? CW, If you really believe that global warming climate research is on par with one of Brother Stair's predictions you are ignoring the consensus of world scientists and the quiet admissions of your own right-wing administration: Consensus of world scientists support global warming http://www.law.pace.edu/env/energy/globalwarming.html Bush administration efforts recognize global warming http://www.globalchange.gov/ Global warming: Early warning signs http://www.climatehotmap.org/ Bush's EPA fact page on climate research http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...t/Climate.html Bush's State Dept: Co2 Control Helps Economy http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ceCenterPublic ationsUSClimateActionReport.html Most people would opt to be, at least, precautious. You really should stop basing your scientific conclusions on the babbling of right-wing AM talk show hosts. (Just to make this OT! ;-) I had a debate team win a national championship suggesting that using the marketplace to trade emission allottments would spur conservation and spur the economy. The evidence is strong. Please list your counter-URLs so we can compare the quality of opposing evidentiary sources. I have 1000s more URLs if you're interested... Hmmm... there is no dispute that there is indeed global warming. The dispute arises when the tin-foil hat crowd suggests that it is manmade. The historical and geological record bear this out. Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Hmmm... there is no dispute that there is indeed global warming. The dispute arises when the tin-foil hat crowd suggests that it is manmade. The historical and geological record bear this out. Actually, Steve, if you had read the links I provided, you would have seen that there is a rather significant consensus of both scientists and policy-makers that man-made greenhouse gases are indeed one of the major contributors to global warming. This link has been recognized by both Bush's EPA and Dept of State. GW's objections to Kyoto were not based on indictments of any scientific linkages, but on the notion that the restrictions on CO2 emissions weren't applied equally to all nations. Calling the vast majority of scientists part of "tin foil hat crowd" is a technique that orininated with Rush Limbaugh. Do you also agree with him that there are no significant risks we face with the quickly accelerating pace of extinctions of animal species? If you do, that's your right, but ignoring the vast consensus of scientists across the planet makes you look a bit tin-foilish to me. Can you offer any URLs to support your counter-claims? A comparison of source qualifications would be VERY interesting. Well you see, I don't waste my time chasing down links to try and dis-prove something that is obviously false! To do so, would be, well, foolish! With all due respect, Mike Bryant Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: "CW" And, of course, they will offer no proof. Just supposition the way they always have. Brother stair has been predicting the end of the world. Do you believe that too? CW, If you really believe that global warming climate research is on par with one of Brother Stair's predictions you are ignoring the consensus of world scientists and the quiet admissions of your own right-wing administration: Consensus of world scientists support global warming http://www.law.pace.edu/env/energy/globalwarming.html Bush administration efforts recognize global warming http://www.globalchange.gov/ Global warming: Early warning signs http://www.climatehotmap.org/ Bush's EPA fact page on climate research http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...t/Climate.html Bush's State Dept: Co2 Control Helps Economy http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwa...ceCenterPublic ationsUSClimateActionReport.html Most people would opt to be, at least, precautious. You really should stop basing your scientific conclusions on the babbling of right-wing AM talk show hosts. (Just to make this OT! ;-) I had a debate team win a national championship suggesting that using the marketplace to trade emission allottments would spur conservation and spur the economy. What does that prove? That a bunch of other academic tin-foil hat wearers liked your story? Come on... It would in no way spur conservation, nor would it spur the economy (especially not ours). All it would do is facilitate the trading of another 'commodity', with the attendant money to be made by doing so. Tin-foil hat thinking indeed! The evidence is strong. Please list your counter-URLs so we can compare the quality of opposing evidentiary sources. I have 1000s more URLs if you're interested... Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL Louisville, KY R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K, DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76 (remove "nojunk" to reply) |
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Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Well you see, I don't waste my time chasing down links to try and dis-prove something that is obviously false! To do so, would be, well, foolish! Well, Steve, if it's so obviously false, a few questions seem clear: First, if there was counter-evidence on such a well-publicized issue, you'd think it would be easy to find. Ever wonder why it can't be found from reputable non-political sources? Second, why are the vast majority of scientists and policy-makers supporting such an obviously false bit of science? Remember, I provided URLs backing up my claims. Finally, why do GW Bush's EPA and State Departments recognize a strong link between man-made greenhouse gases and global warming? Have you ever heard GW Bush deny the connection? Could you provide any URLs at all? Or is argumentative support really an unfair request upon anyone branding most of the rest of the world as members of the "tin-foil hat crowd"? Sorry to be wasting your time! ;-) No problem, I'm used to you doing that! :-) Bryant |
Michael Bryant wrote: From: N8KDV Well you see, I don't waste my time chasing down links to try and dis-prove something that is obviously false! To do so, would be, well, foolish! Well, Steve, if it's so obviously false, a few questions seem clear: First, if there was counter-evidence on such a well-publicized issue, you'd think it would be easy to find. Ever wonder why it can't be found from reputable non-political sources? Second, why are the vast majority of scientists and policy-makers supporting such an obviously false bit of science? Remember, I provided URLs backing up my claims. Finally, why do GW Bush's EPA and State Departments recognize a strong link between man-made greenhouse gases and global warming? Have you ever heard GW Bush deny the connection? Could you provide any URLs at all? Or is argumentative support really an unfair request upon anyone branding most of the rest of the world Most of the rest of the world? That in and of itself is a tin-foil hat statement if I ever heard one... LOL You really think that 'most of the rest of the world' supports your way of thinking? Thanks for the great laugh to get my day started! as members of the "tin-foil hat crowd"? Sorry to be wasting your time! ;-) Bryant |
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