"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
The reason for the ban on domestic broadcasting in the United States
is that the feds tend to be afraid of the attributes of shortwave and
the ability to transmit across an entire nation. They want Clear
Channel to own all the domestic broadcasters so they can broadcast
what they "approve of"

The ban on domestic shortwave dates back to the 30's, and was based on the
FCC belief that the country was best served by the 1-A and 1-B clear channel
stations (you are right... it has to do with clear channels) and that
domestic short wave was not needed and would be an impediment to the growth
of the clear channel service.

That's crap and you know it. Some are already suspecting that you're an
idiot. I would think you would try not to prove them right.

"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
The reason for the ban on domestic broadcasting in the United States
is that the feds tend to be afraid of the attributes of shortwave and
the ability to transmit across an entire nation. They want Clear
Channel to own all the domestic broadcasters so they can broadcast
what they "approve of"

Even though WBCQ isn't transmitting "domestically," it's still mostly
listened to by people in the US.

"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
The reason for the ban on domestic broadcasting in the United States
is that the feds tend to be afraid of the attributes of shortwave and
the ability to transmit across an entire nation. They want Clear
Channel to own all the domestic broadcasters so they can broadcast
what they "approve of"

That's interesting. I figured neither the FCC nor Clear Channel had
much interest in shortwave. As far as I know, the FCC isn't doing
anything about SW programming content. And Clear Channel hasn't started
up any of the SW stations.


Even though WBCQ isn't transmitting "domestically," it's still mostly
listened to by people in the US.

That makes sense.

Frank Dresser

JW,

While GM could promote its Cars and Trucks "Nation Wide" on 'one'
Single Powerful Shortwave Station. (NOTE: It does not.)

GM does promote its Cars and Trucks "Nation Wide" on hundreds
of 'local' AM/FM Stations. Plus 'local' GM Dealers also use
local AM/FM Stations to promote GM Cars and Trucks.

The current AM/FM/TV Station Broadcast Model helps to build
local business and churn more money within the local economy.

All Politics are Local and our US Representatives and US Senators
plus our State and Local Elected Representatives are interested
in a thriving "Local Economy." The FCC Does What Congress Permits.

The National Economy is actual Hundreds of Regional Economies
make up of Hundreds of 'local' Economies.

WHATS GOOD FOR BUSINESS IS GOOD FOR AM/FM/TV BROADCASTING IN THE USA [.]

Non-Domestic [Nation Wide] Shortwave Broadcasting 'exists' to
fill a limited business (social) need.

If the FCC did not WANT (allow) [Nation Wide] Non-Domestic Shortwave
Broadcasting then Dr Gene Scott and many others would be off the air.

With the Advent of Domestic XM and Sirius 'direct' Satellite Radio
Broadcasting; over time more domestic "Nation Wide" Broadcasting
will develop for that media.

TBL: Non-Domestic [Nation Wide] Shortwave Broadcasting in Ten (10)
to Fifty (50) Years will be what it is Today a Business Operating
within its Limited Market.


~ RHF
..
..
= = = "Jeff Wilson"
= = = wrote in message . com...
What do yout hink is the future of shortwave and amateur radio in 10, 50,
100 years? Honestly, it's not as necessary as it used to be, but the ARRL is
right, "When all else fails" shortwave and amateur radio will be there.

I think 3-30mhz is of limited use to corporations and other powerful
interests. It's just not very attractive to them, and the regulatory bodies
around the world respect it. So I think it's here to stay for a good long
time.

But the question is, in 100 years, who's going to use it? Will it be a
vacant frequency spread? I sure hope not. It's a great hobby. Yet, I can't
help but feel that the glory days of shortwave listening has passed me by.

Thoughts?

-------------
Jeff Wilson
KG6RIF
Los Angeles, California

To the liberal left it sounds like crap, since they promote
censorship, and have no concept of free airwaves.

You sound like a troll, calling me an "idiot" What have I written here
that is wrong? It is true that the feds are afraid of someone using
shortwave to spread beyond-the-fringe politics to a mass audience
around the country.

And also, they want Clear Channel to run American airwaves and only
promote "governmentally approved" politics.


"CW" wrote in message ...
That's crap and you know it. Some are already suspecting that you're an
idiot. I would think you would try not to prove them right.

"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
The reason for the ban on domestic broadcasting in the United States
is that the feds tend to be afraid of the attributes of shortwave and
the ability to transmit across an entire nation. They want Clear
Channel to own all the domestic broadcasters so they can broadcast
what they "approve of"

Even though WBCQ isn't transmitting "domestically," it's still mostly
listened to by people in the US.

There you go again, proving your idiocy.
"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
To the liberal left it sounds like crap, since they promote
censorship, and have no concept of free airwaves.

You sound like a troll, calling me an "idiot" What have I written here
that is wrong? It is true that the feds are afraid of someone using
shortwave to spread beyond-the-fringe politics to a mass audience
around the country.

And also, they want Clear Channel to run American airwaves and only
promote "governmentally approved" politics.


"CW" wrote in message
...
That's crap and you know it. Some are already suspecting that you're an
idiot. I would think you would try not to prove them right.

"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
The reason for the ban on domestic broadcasting in the United States
is that the feds tend to be afraid of the attributes of shortwave and
the ability to transmit across an entire nation. They want Clear
Channel to own all the domestic broadcasters so they can broadcast
what they "approve of"

Even though WBCQ isn't transmitting "domestically," it's still mostly
listened to by people in the US.

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
JW,

While GM could promote its Cars and Trucks "Nation Wide" on 'one'
Single Powerful Shortwave Station. (NOTE: It does not.)

GM does promote its Cars and Trucks "Nation Wide" on hundreds
of 'local' AM/FM Stations. Plus 'local' GM Dealers also use
local AM/FM Stations to promote GM Cars and Trucks.

The current AM/FM/TV Station Broadcast Model helps to build
local business and churn more money within the local economy.

All Politics are Local and our US Representatives and US Senators
plus our State and Local Elected Representatives are interested
in a thriving "Local Economy." The FCC Does What Congress Permits.

The National Economy is actual Hundreds of Regional Economies
make up of Hundreds of 'local' Economies.

WHATS GOOD FOR BUSINESS IS GOOD FOR AM/FM/TV BROADCASTING IN THE USA
[.]

Non-Domestic [Nation Wide] Shortwave Broadcasting 'exists' to
fill a limited business (social) need.

If the FCC did not WANT (allow) [Nation Wide] Non-Domestic Shortwave
Broadcasting then Dr Gene Scott and many others would be off the air.

With the Advent of Domestic XM and Sirius 'direct' Satellite Radio
Broadcasting; over time more domestic "Nation Wide" Broadcasting
will develop for that media.

TBL: Non-Domestic [Nation Wide] Shortwave Broadcasting in Ten (10)
to Fifty (50) Years will be what it is Today a Business Operating
within its Limited Market.


~ RHF
.
GM promotes it's cars nationwide on nationwide TV programming.

Car ads on radio are usually sponsored by a dealer or a dealer's
association.

There isn't much nationwide programming on radio anymore. When there
was, there was also nationwide radio advertising.

I don't see how much of this resulted from any deliberate government
policy.

Frank Dresser

"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
To the liberal left it sounds like crap, since they promote
censorship, and have no concept of free airwaves.

You sound like a troll, calling me an "idiot" What have I written here
that is wrong? It is true that the feds are afraid of someone using
shortwave to spread beyond-the-fringe politics to a mass audience
around the country.

What's the evidence of that?


And also, they want Clear Channel to run American airwaves and only
promote "governmentally approved" politics.


Will the government force NPR to sell out to Clear Channel?

Frank Dresser

He has no evidence. It is a product of his mind. It has always been
government policy to prevent any one, or only a few, entities from
controlling the majority of the media. That includes newspapers, TV and
radio. The reason for that was to ensure variety of opinion. We had a case
here locally a year of so ago where, one of the two largest newspapers in
the area wanted to buy the other. They had to get government permission to
do so. They were denied. If it had been two bicycle factories, the
government would have no say about it. The deregulation and buy up of radio
stations is due to greed helped along by a president (passed) that had the
motto "Morals? We don't need no stinkin' morals".

"Frank Dresser" wrote in message
...

"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
To the liberal left it sounds like crap, since they promote
censorship, and have no concept of free airwaves.

You sound like a troll, calling me an "idiot" What have I written here
that is wrong? It is true that the feds are afraid of someone using
shortwave to spread beyond-the-fringe politics to a mass audience
around the country.

What's the evidence of that?


And also, they want Clear Channel to run American airwaves and only
promote "governmentally approved" politics.


Will the government force NPR to sell out to Clear Channel?

Frank Dresser

But of course... your one of those "government is so nice and does
everything in the favor of the people.. awwwwwwww"

Wake up. The government would never allow a WBCQ type station to get
on regualr AM/FM radio, this is why you only find these silly neo-con
"buy my book buy my tape type" You have some of these neo-cons who one
day say "Bush is god" then another day "Bush sucks" These guys aren't
really doing anything but spewing crap. But.. this is acceptable by
the government. Anyone talking the realities would be quickly called a
racist and booted off the air.

"CW" wrote in message ...
There you go again, proving your idiocy.
"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
To the liberal left it sounds like crap, since they promote
censorship, and have no concept of free airwaves.

You sound like a troll, calling me an "idiot" What have I written here
that is wrong? It is true that the feds are afraid of someone using
shortwave to spread beyond-the-fringe politics to a mass audience
around the country.

And also, they want Clear Channel to run American airwaves and only
promote "governmentally approved" politics.


"CW" wrote in message
...
That's crap and you know it. Some are already suspecting that you're an
idiot. I would think you would try not to prove them right.

"RedOctober90" wrote in message
om...
The reason for the ban on domestic broadcasting in the United States
is that the feds tend to be afraid of the attributes of shortwave and
the ability to transmit across an entire nation. They want Clear
Channel to own all the domestic broadcasters so they can broadcast
what they "approve of"

Even though WBCQ isn't transmitting "domestically," it's still mostly
listened to by people in the US.