SAT800 Yahoo Group & Censorship
 

Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65, aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to stop his
off-topic political rants.

A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the audacity to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true loser...


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo
groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65,
aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to stop
his
off-topic political rants.

A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the audacity
to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true
loser...

There is no room for censorship of opinions from either the right or the
left. Our Constitution (for now) guarantees the right of freedom of speech
and freedom of expression to both conservatives and liberals (I realize that
not every netizen is a US citizen, but much of the world agrees on this
point, including the UN).

From: "Brenda Ann"

There is no room for censorship of opinions from either the right or the
left. Our Constitution (for now) guarantees the right of freedom of speech
and freedom of expression to both conservatives and liberals (I realize that
not every netizen is a US citizen, but much of the world agrees on this
point, including the UN).


I would agree to a point. I think we have the right to ask the moderator of a
moderated group not to censor people for asking him to refrain from censoring
people for simply asking him to stick to discussing the SAT800, or at least SW
radio. To censor those expressing the choice to stick to SW seems particularly
reprehensible.

He went crazy at me three or four times and at one of my friends also. I
dropped off two of his list.
I think his wife took him out of California because he was to nuts to
be even in this state, his wife works and he stays home I think.
I hope she gets him help before he hurts someone or himself. He is
truly a sick man!!!

That man sure needs help.

Burr

Michael Bryant wrote:
Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65, aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to stop his
off-topic political rants.

A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the audacity to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true loser...


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

Burr:

I remember the incident with you and JJ--and from what I hear from the
pirate faction, this joker has been on/off his meds again. He has a
penchant for attacking others...(like you didnt know this) I said FO to
that group some time ago...

I am and shall remain,
SYSYPHUS' SISTER
and you're not





Burr wrote:

He went crazy at me three or four times and at one of my friends also. I
dropped off two of his list.
I think his wife took him out of California because he was to nuts
to be even in this state, his wife works and he stays home I think.
I hope she gets him help before he hurts someone or himself. He is
truly a sick man!!!

That man sure needs help.

Burr

Michael Bryant wrote:

Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo
groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65,
aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to
stop his
off-topic political rants.
A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the
audacity to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true
loser...


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

BA,

In general "YES" in an 'Open' Public Forum like Rec.Radio.Shortwave.
{ You Have the Right to Yell Out in the Public Street All You Want. }
= = = Freedom of Speech = = =


But the YAHOO "Groups" are a [Closed] Private Club that is OWNED
by an Individual and "Membership is Required".
{ You Do NOT Have the Right to Come Into My House and Yell At Me. }
= = = The So-Called Right of Privacy = = =
Like any Club, Group or "Clique" - Fit In - Or Get Out.
[ I Would Not Belong To Any Club That Would Have ME ! ~ "GM" ]


An "IF" (Big If) We Truly have Freedom of Speech in the USofA.
Then why, Why. WHY! are Conservative Speakers Banned on Most Colleges ?
{ Talk About Lack of Diversity of Thought and Speech. }


yiaanah ~ RHF
= = = YES - I Am a Netizen at Heart.
..
[ When All Things Are Considered - All Things Are Done In Moderation ]
..
= = = "Brenda Ann"
= = = wrote in message ...
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo
groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65,
aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to stop
his
off-topic political rants.

A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the audacity
to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true
loser...

There is no room for censorship of opinions from either the right or the
left. Our Constitution (for now) guarantees the right of freedom of speech
and freedom of expression to both conservatives and liberals (I realize that
not every netizen is a US citizen, but much of the world agrees on this
point, including the UN).

..

"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo
groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group.

[snip]

Yes, but there are those with a high complaint to contribution ratio.
If we don't send them the Yahoo groups, where the hell can we tell them
to go?

Frank Dresser

In article .net, Burr
writes:



He went crazy at me three or four times and at one of my friends also. I
dropped off two of his list.
I think his wife took him out of California because he was to nuts to
be even in this state, his wife works and he stays home I think.
I hope she gets him help before he hurts someone or himself. He is
truly a sick man!!!

That man sure needs help.

Burr

- And if he ever wen't to get help they'd tell him to go out & get a Job ! !

What did old Bob Dylan say:
" Too Much of Nothing Makes a Feller Mean"..

From: (RHF)

{ You Do NOT Have the Right to Come Into My House and Yell At Me. }

You grow more offensive every single day, RHF. Even if I do come in your house,
that you've made open for the public, it would be RUDE of you to scream your
political perspectives at me when I came there to hear discussion on the
SAT800. I certainly was talking in a much lower voice than JJ was using to
trumpet his "patriotic" perspectives. JJ is a maniacal little tyrant.

From: "Frank Dresser"

Yes, but there are those with a high complaint to contribution ratio.
If we don't send them the Yahoo groups, where the hell can we tell them
to go?


That's the point, Frank. The Yahoo groups should stick to their topics so that
people can go there if they can't, or don't want, to deal with the discord that
characterizes RRS.

All I did was suggest that the group stay on topic instead of JJ shoving his
political perspectives. I made no counter political stance. Others made far
more direct and vicious attacks, but I got kicked because JJ seems to hold a
grudge against things I've said to other folks on RRS. That's wrong.

But don't worry, I don't want back on that group. JJ and RHF together is a
little too much to deal with.

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
BA,

In general "YES" in an 'Open' Public Forum like Rec.Radio.Shortwave.
{ You Have the Right to Yell Out in the Public Street All You Want. }
= = = Freedom of Speech = = =


But the YAHOO "Groups" are a [Closed] Private Club that is OWNED
by an Individual and "Membership is Required".
{ You Do NOT Have the Right to Come Into My House and Yell At Me. }
= = = The So-Called Right of Privacy = = =
Like any Club, Group or "Clique" - Fit In - Or Get Out.
[ I Would Not Belong To Any Club That Would Have ME ! ~ "GM" ]


An "IF" (Big If) We Truly have Freedom of Speech in the USofA.
Then why, Why. WHY! are Conservative Speakers Banned on Most Colleges ?
{ Talk About Lack of Diversity of Thought and Speech. }

Because freedom is only an illusion

DeWayne



yiaanah ~ RHF
= = = YES - I Am a Netizen at Heart.
.
[ When All Things Are Considered - All Things Are Done In Moderation ]
.
= = = "Brenda Ann"
= = = wrote in message ...
"Michael Bryant" wrote in message
...
Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo
groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65,
aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to
stop
his
off-topic political rants.

A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the
audacity
to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true
loser...

There is no room for censorship of opinions from either the right or the
left. Our Constitution (for now) guarantees the right of freedom of
speech
and freedom of expression to both conservatives and liberals (I realize
that
not every netizen is a US citizen, but much of the world agrees on this
point, including the UN).

.

Did you get "KICK" you off his list Michael????


I got off before he got me.


I'll bet anything he is reading this and,,, " I hope he doesn't know
where you Live"

Love ya man

Burr


Michael Bryant wrote:
From: "Frank Dresser"


Yes, but there are those with a high complaint to contribution ratio.
If we don't send them the Yahoo groups, where the hell can we tell them
to go?



That's the point, Frank. The Yahoo groups should stick to their topics so that
people can go there if they can't, or don't want, to deal with the discord that
characterizes RRS.

All I did was suggest that the group stay on topic instead of JJ shoving his
political perspectives. I made no counter political stance. Others made far
more direct and vicious attacks, but I got kicked because JJ seems to hold a
grudge against things I've said to other folks on RRS. That's wrong.

But don't worry, I don't want back on that group. JJ and RHF together is a
little too much to deal with.

RHF is correct, if you don't like
what's going on, start your own
****ing discussion group.

Tom Welch

are you his assmonkey?

Tracy


On 23 Jan 2004 14:48:48 -0800, (Tom Welch) wrote:

RHF is correct, if you don't like
what's going on, start your own
****ing discussion group.

Tom Welch

From: Burr

I got off before he got me.


I'll bet anything he is reading this and,,, " I hope he doesn't know
where you Live"

Yeah, no big loss. He's kicked me off, before, when you and I were discussing
the Tiny-Tenna. AC Smith let me back on when he was filling in as moderator,
but the signal-to-noise ratio was getting out of hand. JJ can do whatever he
wants, I guess.

Just thought the whole reason for Yahoo groups was to avoid off-topic political
discussions.

Whatever, no loss.

Stay warm, bro'.

TW,

Hey I Did That ! {Start My Own eGroups :o}

* DRM-Digital-Radio-Mondiale

* ETON-E1-XM-Radio

* Eton-E10-Radio

* Eton-E100-Radio

* Eton-Elite-Series-Radios

* Grundig-S350

* Grundig-Satellit-1000-DRM

* Grundig-Satellit-900

* Grundig-Yacht-Boy-Radios

* Kenwood-R5000

* SWL-AM-FM-Antenna

-o/m- ~ RHF
..
..
= = = (Tom Welch)
= = = wrote in message . com...

RHF is correct, if you don't like
what's going on, start your own
****ing discussion group.

Tom Welch

..

From: (RHF

Hey I Did That ! {Start My Own eGroups :o}


And I bet you prefer to keep your groups on-topic and don't kick people off for
simply asking that they stick to the topic.

Right?

TLF,

Why such a Hostile and Invective Reply ?

I think what "TW" was suggesting is: If you are Confronted with
a Hostile and Toxic Social Environment. The the Best Thing You
Can Do For Yourself is to Go Someplace and Create a Positive
Wholesome Social Environment for Yourself to Grow In and Enjoy.

GROUPS: For One and All - For All are One - Rejoice and Be Happy :o)
Otherwise-Get-Active= http://www.MoveOn.Org


cwajga ~ RHF
= = = Can't We All Just Get Along.
..
..
= = = TL Fort
= = = wrote in message . ..
are you his assmonkey?

Tracy


On 23 Jan 2004 14:48:48 -0800, (Tom Welch) wrote:

RHF is correct, if you don't like
what's going on, start your own
****ing discussion group.

Tom Welch

Your OK Michael, take it easy. Don't run your blood pressure up.

Your eyes are bulging and you look funny.

LLL

Burr

Michael Bryant wrote:

From: (RHF


Hey I Did That ! {Start My Own eGroups :o}



And I bet you prefer to keep your groups on-topic and don't kick people off for
simply asking that they stick to the topic.

Right?

From: Burr

Your eyes are bulging and you look funny.

Yeah, man, it's these single-digit wind chills in usually mild Louisville...

Man, I'm tempted to come visit you in your little biothermal Cali paradise.
Been missing some of that Asian DX....

Mike
Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

LLL
Burr



RHF wrote:
TLF,

Why such a Hostile and Invective Reply ?

I think what "TW" was suggesting is: If you are Confronted with
a Hostile and Toxic Social Environment. The the Best Thing You
Can Do For Yourself is to Go Someplace and Create a Positive
Wholesome Social Environment for Yourself to Grow In and Enjoy.

GROUPS: For One and All - For All are One - Rejoice and Be Happy :o)
Otherwise-Get-Active= http://www.MoveOn.Org


cwajga ~ RHF
= = = Can't We All Just Get Along.
.
.
= = = TL Fort
= = = wrote in message . ..

are you his assmonkey?

Tracy


On 23 Jan 2004 14:48:48 -0800, (Tom Welch) wrote:


RHF is correct, if you don't like
what's going on, start your own
****ing discussion group.

Tom Welch

Michael Bryant wrote:
From: "Frank Dresser"


Yes, but there are those with a high complaint to contribution ratio.
If we don't send them the Yahoo groups, where the hell can we tell them
to go?



That's the point, Frank. The Yahoo groups should stick to their topics so that
people can go there if they can't, or don't want, to deal with the discord that
characterizes RRS.

All I did was suggest that the group stay on topic instead of JJ shoving his
political perspectives. I made no counter political stance. Others made far
more direct and vicious attacks, but I got kicked because JJ seems to hold a
grudge against things I've said to other folks on RRS. That's wrong.

But don't worry, I don't want back on that group. JJ and RHF together is a
little too much to deal with.



Michael:
Wait about 6 weeks, that's when JJ goes off the meds again.....

I am,
SYSYPHUS' SISTER
and you're not

On 23 Jan 2004 20:12:42 -0800, (RHF) wrote:

TLF,

Why such a Hostile and Invective Reply ?

I think what "TW" was suggesting is: If you are Confronted with
a Hostile and Toxic Social Environment. The the Best Thing You
Can Do For Yourself is to Go Someplace and Create a Positive
Wholesome Social Environment for Yourself to Grow In and Enjoy.

GROUPS: For One and All - For All are One - Rejoice and Be Happy :o)
Otherwise-Get-Active= http://www.MoveOn.Org


That's a question that you need to be asking Tom Welch? It was a
hostile following a hostile...

Tracy

What does this mean, I ain't to smart!!!
Ain't nothing social is it?

Burr (got it from my father, I'm Jr.)

SYSYPHUS' SISTER
I am,
SYSYPHUS' SISTER
and you're not

MWB,

Yes, in general I try to keep things "On Topic" and 'focused'
on the specific type of Radio that the eGroup is formed for:
But, there has to be a certain amount of natural discourse in
any group for it to be Alive and Interesting for the 85% of
the Members who simply Read-the-Mail.

However, I am sorry to admit that about every ten days.
I have to DELETE a 'posted' Message and REMOVE-BAN a Member.
Plus File an ABUSE Report with YAHOO Groups about the Member.
NOTE: Not something I 'like' doing; but it is something that
"Has-to-be-Done" to maintain order and establish control for
the benefit of the group. After all in my former life, when
I had a JOB; I was a "Inspektor Gruppe Führer" for more than
20 of those 32 Years. free-at-last, Free-At-Last. FREE-AT-LAST !

EXAMPLE:
"What to Expect when SPAM and Off Topic Posting Occur on this eGroup"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/89


lof... ~ RHF
= = = Lead or Follow; Or Simply Get Out of the Way.
..
..
= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...

From: (RHF

Hey I Did That ! {Start My Own eGroups :o}


And I bet you prefer to keep your groups on-topic and don't kick
people off for simply asking that they stick to the topic.

Right?

..

From: (RHF)

But, there has to be a certain amount of natural discourse in
any group for it to be Alive and Interesting for the 85% of
the Members who simply Read-the-Mail.


I will stand by my belief that what the SAT800 group turned into was far more
annoying than "natural discourse." There just wern't many posts being made
about the SAT800. Remeber, it operated as a mail list and all that crap was
overwhelming to wade through.

However, I am sorry to admit that about every ten days.
I have to DELETE a 'posted' Message and REMOVE-BAN a Member.
Plus File an ABUSE Report with YAHOO Groups about the Member.
NOTE: Not something I 'like' doing; but it is something that
"Has-to-be-Done" to maintain order and establish control for
the benefit of the group.

When was the last time you did that to someone requesting that the group try to
stay on-topic, RH? I'll bet never. Which makes me wonder why you've been so
vehement in defending JJ's actions. I think anyone that tries can figure out
why you seem so involved.

After all in my former life, when
I had a JOB; I was a "Inspektor Gruppe Führer" for more than
20 of those 32 Years. free-at-last, Free-At-Last. FREE-AT-LAST !

There you go down that memory lane, again, RHF. ;-

Do me a favor and let it go, RHF. I'm trying to do the same. If you really
believe that JJ did the acceptable thing, fine. We'll just have to agree to
disagree. Neither one of us will change the other's mind.

Mike

= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message ...
From: (RHF)

But, there has to be a certain amount of natural discourse in
any group for it to be Alive and Interesting for the 85% of
the Members who simply Read-the-Mail.


I will stand by my belief that what the SAT800 group turned into was far more
annoying than "natural discourse." There just wern't many posts being made
about the SAT800. Remeber, it operated as a mail list and all that crap was
overwhelming to wade through.

However, I am sorry to admit that about every ten days.
I have to DELETE a 'posted' Message and REMOVE-BAN a Member.
Plus File an ABUSE Report with YAHOO Groups about the Member.
NOTE: Not something I 'like' doing; but it is something that
"Has-to-be-Done" to maintain order and establish control for
the benefit of the group.

When was the last time you did that to someone requesting that the group try to
stay on-topic, RH? I'll bet never. Which makes me wonder why you've been so
vehement in defending JJ's actions. I think anyone that tries can figure out
why you seem so involved.


MWB, Did I Defend "JJs" Actions NO [.]
[ "JJ" is able to Speak for Himself. ]
I Simply Stated How I Manage the eGroups on YAHOO!
For which I am 'personally' Responsible to the Membership.


After all in my former life, when
I had a JOB; I was a "Inspektor Gruppe Führer" for more than
20 of those 32 Years. free-at-last, Free-At-Last. FREE-AT-LAST !

There you go down that memory lane, again, RHF. ;-


MWB, Be Thankful for your Memories: Some Day they will simply
start to fade away and your life will begin to change forever.


Do me a favor and let it go, RHF. I'm trying to do the same. If you really
believe that JJ did the acceptable thing, fine. We'll just have to agree to
disagree. Neither one of us will change the other's mind.

Mike

..

"craigm" wrote in message
...

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
MWB,

Yes, in general I try to keep things "On Topic" and 'focused'
on the specific type of Radio that the eGroup is formed for:
But, there has to be a certain amount of natural discourse in
any group for it to be Alive and Interesting for the 85% of
the Members who simply Read-the-Mail.

However, I am sorry to admit that about every ten days.
I have to DELETE a 'posted' Message and REMOVE-BAN a Member.
Plus File an ABUSE Report with YAHOO Groups about the Member.
NOTE: Not something I 'like' doing; but it is something that
"Has-to-be-Done" to maintain order and establish control for
the benefit of the group. After all in my former life, when
I had a JOB; I was a "Inspektor Gruppe Führer" for more than
20 of those 32 Years. free-at-last, Free-At-Last. FREE-AT-LAST !

EXAMPLE:
"What to Expect when SPAM and Off Topic Posting Occur on this eGroup"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...nna/message/89


lof... ~ RHF
= = = Lead or Follow; Or Simply Get Out of the Way.
.
.
= = = ojunk (Michael Bryant)
= = = wrote in message
...

From: (RHF

Hey I Did That ! {Start My Own eGroups :o}


And I bet you prefer to keep your groups on-topic and don't kick
people off for simply asking that they stick to the topic.

Right?

.

Keep in mind, Mike's post was after a string of 35 off-topic posts by
others. He asked that the group try to stay on-topic.

JJ's reply, "If you don't like it...guess what...you can leave the group.
", was in rather poor taste for being the moderator.

Following Mike's post, about 4 of the 45 posts were on-topic.

That group seems to need a new charter and name.

For me, the Sat 800 group has become a waste of time to find that rare
on-topic post.

I dumped the SAT 800 group this week. It was getting out of hand IMO.

DeWayne


Just my opinion.

craigm

In article ,
TL Fort wrote:

On 23 Jan 2004 20:12:42 -0800, (RHF) wrote:

TLF,

Why such a Hostile and Invective Reply ?

I think what "TW" was suggesting is: If you are Confronted with
a Hostile and Toxic Social Environment. The the Best Thing You
Can Do For Yourself is to Go Someplace and Create a Positive
Wholesome Social Environment for Yourself to Grow In and Enjoy.

GROUPS: For One and All - For All are One - Rejoice and Be Happy :o)
Otherwise-Get-Active= http://www.MoveOn.Org


That's a question that you need to be asking Tom Welch? It was a
hostile following a hostile...

Tom Welch is a known TROLL. Look him up. Also try Red Pony. He also went
by other handles.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

SYSYPHUS' SISTER wrote in message ...

Michael:
Wait about 6 weeks, that's when JJ goes off the meds again.....

I am,
SYSYPHUS' SISTER
and you're not

Hey, Sis, I am a co-moderator on Sat800 and have refrained from using
any of my powers on that group for fear of getting kicked off. I love
the people of Sat800 and it isn't fun when things take a nose-dive on
political issues and the such. I have considered leaving because I
have run up my flag as not being a "conservative" and once marked
(either way) you are marked. Apparently if one is not of a particular
stripe, it is now cause to be labeled an enemy rather than just to
leave it as "disagreeing". But I love the people of the group and it
is a large group so I'm going to hang around until I "slip up" and get
booted for wanting the subject matter to remain on track.

To all those who left the group for whatever reason, I apologize.
However, I am not the owner and in the end really have no power.

Best DX to all of you,

AC Smith

From: (AC Smith)

To all those who left the group for whatever reason, I apologize.
However, I am not the owner and in the end really have no power.



Adam,

Rest assured that no one is blaming you. I only want to thank you for getting
me back in the Group after JJ tossed me for disparaging remarks against the
Tiny-Tenna. I won't be trying to re-enter the group.

Stay cool, man!

Mike

On 23 Jan 2004 05:02:20 GMT, ojunk (Michael Bryant)
wrote:

Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65, aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to stop his
off-topic political rants.

A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the audacity to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true loser...


Michael Bryant, WA4009SWL
Louisville, KY
R75, S800, RX320, SW77, ICF2010K,
DX398, 7600G, 6800W, RF2200, 7600A
GE SRll, Pro-2006, Pro-2010, Pro-76
(remove "nojunk" to reply)

You have a choice...don't go there. It's just like here. The big
difference it that usenet is for the most part unmoderated. You folks
seek to censor what I say. If you owned the group you could just kick
me off. But, you don't. So your choices are you can whine like babies
of kill file me. It's up to you.

Calling my employer will do you and everyone elso absolutely no good.
As a matter of fact, it will probably get complants filed by them to
your internet providers. You have to remember that email is a private
issue and usenet is not. My employer has absolutely no control over
what I do with my internet connection at my own home.

It's like gettting in an argument with yor next door neighbor over
your dog. The neighbor calls your boss. Do you think that your boss
will care?

Of course not!

Tracy

AC Smith wrote:

SYSYPHUS' SISTER wrote in message ...


Michael:
Wait about 6 weeks, that's when JJ goes off the meds again.....

I am,
SYSYPHUS' SISTER
and you're not


Hey, Sis, I am a co-moderator on Sat800 and have refrained from using
any of my powers on that group for fear of getting kicked off. I love
the people of Sat800 and it isn't fun when things take a nose-dive on
political issues and the such. I have considered leaving because I
have run up my flag as not being a "conservative" and once marked
(either way) you are marked. Apparently if one is not of a particular
stripe, it is now cause to be labeled an enemy rather than just to
leave it as "disagreeing". But I love the people of the group and it
is a large group so I'm going to hang around until I "slip up" and get
booted for wanting the subject matter to remain on track.

To all those who left the group for whatever reason, I apologize.
However, I am not the owner and in the end really have no power.

Best DX to all of you,

AC Smith
NEVER would I accuse you of being "the enemy"! But I was quiet during
the "home-schooling" matter and its fallout. And I noticed a trend
about the rantings of JJ and the cycles indicated in my first email to
Michael.
So, it seemed that since there was little to no SAT800 information
emanating from that group--it was time to move on.

And if JJ (Woody) wants a personal rant group, that's fine. Just don't
label it SAT800 and no one will be disappointed. (and the members won't
leave in droves, either).

Good DX'ing to you too, toots!

I am,
SYSYPHUS' SISTER

"RHF" wrote in message
om...
DeWayne and CraigM,
{For One & All}

READ any of these Messages "eMail (Message Delivery)
A Good General Recommendation to All eGroup Members"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWL-AM...na/message/395
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kenwood-r5000/message/520
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundig-S350/message/1740
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundi...00/message/475
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Grundi...os/message/194


Just like here at "Google Rec.Radio.Shortwave" and likewise at
YAHOO! eGroups. Log-On-To the 'host' website and read the
Message 'postings' (eMails) there and post there too.

TBL: No Clutter in Your eMail Box.


And just like here at "Google Rec.Radio.Shortwave" and again
likewise at YAHOO! eGroups.
* You "SELECT" 'which' Messages You Choose to Read.
* You Are In Control of What You SEE !

* The Best Control Is... SELF-CONTROL [.]

Did you mention that to JJ?

DeWayne



FWIW: Some YAHOO! eGroup Members Come and Some Go . . .
and some return and leave, and Return and Leave. and RETURN !


wmcis ~ RHF
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.


Keep in mind, Mike's post was after a string of 35 off-topic posts by
others. He asked that the group try to stay on-topic.

JJ's reply, "If you don't like it...guess what...you can leave the
group.
", was in rather poor taste for being the moderator.

Following Mike's post, about 4 of the 45 posts were on-topic.

That group seems to need a new charter and name.

For me, the Sat 800 group has become a waste of time to find that rare
on-topic post.

I dumped the SAT 800 group this week. It was getting out of hand IMO.

DeWayne


Just my opinion.

craigm


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"AC Smith" wrote in message
om...
SYSYPHUS' SISTER wrote in message
...

Michael:
Wait about 6 weeks, that's when JJ goes off the meds again.....

I am,
SYSYPHUS' SISTER
and you're not

Hey, Sis, I am a co-moderator on Sat800 and have refrained from using
any of my powers on that group for fear of getting kicked off. I love
the people of Sat800 and it isn't fun when things take a nose-dive on
political issues and the such. I have considered leaving because I
have run up my flag as not being a "conservative" and once marked
(either way) you are marked. Apparently if one is not of a particular
stripe, it is now cause to be labeled an enemy rather than just to
leave it as "disagreeing". But I love the people of the group and it
is a large group so I'm going to hang around until I "slip up" and get
booted for wanting the subject matter to remain on track.

To all those who left the group for whatever reason, I apologize.
However, I am not the owner and in the end really have no power.

I doubt if anyone thought you were any problem. I enjoyed reading your
comments about the SAT 800 and SWLing. The political rantings were annoying
so I just left the SAT 800 group. Politics is so utterly deceitful anyway.
The Republicans falsely claim to be so ultra moral and the Dems openly
advocate baby murder. What's left? Only the very naive trust any politician!
Clinton was god to the Dems, and Bush is god to the Republicans. What a
bunch of bunk! It's just too bad that the list owner would try to polute his
own group. I enjoyed the SAT 800 group for a while. I consider you as an
asset to the group AC.

DeWayne


Best DX to all of you,

AC Smith

In article ,
ojunk says...
Anyone who thinks the discord on RRS is a reason to migrate to Yahoo groups
should take notice of what's happening in SAT800 Yahoo group. W00dy65, aka, JJ
the radiobuff, is stopping the posts of members who are asking him to stop his
off-topic political rants.

A small-minded simian engaging in censorship. And then having the audacity to
call others censors when they ask him to stick to SW radio. A true loser...

So start another group on Yahoo! Groups yourself.

--

-- //Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Fountain Valley, CA
Email:

From: Steve Silverwood

So start another group on Yahoo! Groups yourself.

At the risk of becoming a little power mad despot, like JJ, I'll just stick to
dealing with RRS. BTW, I think you are owed congratulations on making more
posts in one day than anyone else ever has before.

From: (Stephen M.H. Lawrence)

If you really care about free speech,
work as a moderator, removing only SPAM. Just a suggestion.
(On the other hand, what's the big deal?)

No big deal. This topic died over a week ago. Why do you feel the need to bring
it back up? Just catching up on being annoying?

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
om...
ojunk (Michael Bryant) wrote:

You grow more offensive every single day, RHF.

RHF is one of the most pleasant, inoffensive personalities
I've encountered in RRS. Yahoo's Moderated Groups are a
(questionably) benign dictatorship, and if you don't like
the jumping and shouting, you can always form your own Yahoo
Satellit 800 group. If you really care about free speech,
work as a moderator, removing only SPAM. Just a suggestion.
(On the other hand, what's the big deal?)

I agree Steve, and RHF is always trying to be helpful to all!

DeWayne


73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN