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Preesi January 23rd 04 12:50 PM

Why cant I get anything on either of my Shortwave radios?
 
I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?

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N8KDV January 23rd 04 01:19 PM



Preesi wrote:

I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?


What kind of receivers do you have? And what kind of decoder(s) do you have
for receiving those modes of transmission?



Preesi January 23rd 04 01:36 PM

N8KDV wrote:

What kind of receivers do you have? And what kind of decoder(s) do
you have for receiving those modes of transmission?


I have a Grundig Yacht Boy 400 and a Radio Shack DX-392.
I have WinXP and D/Led 2 proggies, SeaTTY (http://www.dxsoft.com), and
MMSSTV
(http://www.qsl.net/mmhamsoft/)

Plus I have this handy page: http://www.wunclub.com/sounds/index.html

I never hear anything but static!

preesi



Diverd4777 January 23rd 04 01:38 PM

& What sort of antenna do you have, BTW . . .

In article , N8KDV
writes:



Preesi wrote:

I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?


What kind of receivers do you have? And what kind of decoder(s) do you have
for receiving those modes of transmission?






Preesi January 23rd 04 01:46 PM

Diverd4777 wrote:
& What sort of antenna do you have, BTW . . .



The antennas that came with them!



Dee D. Flint January 23rd 04 01:50 PM


"Preesi" wrote in message
...
Diverd4777 wrote:
& What sort of antenna do you have, BTW . . .



The antennas that came with them!



Except on really outstanding days, those antennas are totally inadequate.



Dee D. Flint January 23rd 04 01:53 PM


"craigm" wrote in message
...

"Preesi" wrote in message
...
I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?

--

preesi


You may need a book to determine the time and frequency of the desired
broadcasts. Google searchs should be able to find that info also.


For RTTY, CW, and SSTV, you need to be looking in the amateur radio bands.
If you go to http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg.../bandplan.html ,
the amateur radio band plans are listed. You will also need to study up on
what bands are most appropriate for the time of day that you are listening.
Some bands are good in the daytime while others are good at night.



N8KDV January 23rd 04 01:54 PM



Diverd4777 wrote:

& What sort of antenna do you have, BTW . . .


& what is your listening environment? What kind of building are you in?



In article , N8KDV
writes:



Preesi wrote:

I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?


What kind of receivers do you have? And what kind of decoder(s) do you have
for receiving those modes of transmission?





craigm January 23rd 04 02:01 PM


"Preesi" wrote in message
...
I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?

--

preesi


You may need a book to determine the time and frequency of the desired
broadcasts. Google searchs should be able to find that info also.



Preesi January 23rd 04 02:11 PM

N8KDV wrote:
Diverd4777 wrote:

& What sort of antenna do you have, BTW . . .


& what is your listening environment? What kind of building are you
in?


A colonial house ontop a hill



N8KDV January 23rd 04 02:14 PM



Preesi wrote:

N8KDV wrote:
Diverd4777 wrote:

& What sort of antenna do you have, BTW . . .


& what is your listening environment? What kind of building are you
in?


A colonial house ontop a hill


And you can't pick up ANYTHING?



Preesi January 23rd 04 02:23 PM

N8KDV wrote:

And you can't pick up ANYTHING?


Nope!
Ive sat here for hours scanning the bands and all I hear is very muffled
voices (occasionally) and one or two loud whistles. NOTHING else!



N8KDV January 23rd 04 02:25 PM



Preesi wrote:

N8KDV wrote:

And you can't pick up ANYTHING?


Nope!
Ive sat here for hours scanning the bands and all I hear is very muffled
voices (occasionally) and one or two loud whistles. NOTHING else!


You got yourself some kinda problem!



Diverd4777 January 23rd 04 02:27 PM

In article , "Preesi"
writes:


N8KDV wrote:
Diverd4777 wrote:

& What sort of antenna do you have, BTW . . .


& what is your listening environment? What kind of building are you
in?


A colonial house ontop a hill

- Suggest you put up a 30 foot random wire antenna ASAP..
Look here

http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/



Preesi January 23rd 04 02:36 PM

Diverd4777 wrote:
- Suggest you put up a 30 foot random wire antenna ASAP..
Look here

http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/


Can I buy something at Radio Shack?



Frank White January 23rd 04 02:55 PM

In article ,
says...

I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?


In addition to all the other suggestions you've
received, I'm wondering when you are listening?
It's hard to get shortwave during the day...

And if you've in the Pacific Northwest, forget
it for the time being. God hates us at the
moment and the reception here is terrible.

FW


Preesi January 23rd 04 03:13 PM

Frank White wrote:

In addition to all the other suggestions you've
received, I'm wondering when you are listening?
It's hard to get shortwave during the day...


At night about 7:00pm, to 1:00am!
Im near Philly in the burbs.



Diverd4777 January 23rd 04 03:31 PM

In article , "Preesi"
writes:


Diverd4777 wrote:
- Suggest you put up a 30 foot random wire antenna ASAP..
Look here

http://www.hard-core-dx.com/nordicdx/antenna/wire/


Can I buy something at Radio Shack?

-
You might be better off looking at these shortwave links below.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant.html
or here..
http://www.grove-ent.com/ANT2.html

or here..
http://www.ccrane.com/radios_and_antennas_index.asp

- Probably someone from this list knows someone who can help you out !

Dan ( in NYC)





Dee D. Flint January 23rd 04 05:09 PM


"Preesi" wrote in message
...
Frank White wrote:

In addition to all the other suggestions you've
received, I'm wondering when you are listening?
It's hard to get shortwave during the day...


At night about 7:00pm, to 1:00am!
Im near Philly in the burbs.



For CW, try 7.000 megahertz to 7.150 megahertz at this time of day.




N8KDV January 23rd 04 05:09 PM



Frank White wrote:

In article ,
says...

I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?


In addition to all the other suggestions you've
received, I'm wondering when you are listening?
It's hard to get shortwave during the day...


Huh? There's loads of stuff out there in the daytime.



And if you've in the Pacific Northwest, forget
it for the time being. God hates us at the
moment and the reception here is terrible.

FW



Preesi January 23rd 04 11:46 PM

OMG OMG OMG!
I got a Picture on my SSTV decoder!
Terrific!



N8KDV January 23rd 04 11:47 PM



Preesi wrote:

OMG OMG OMG!
I got a Picture on my SSTV decoder!
Terrific!


Britney Spears?



KB January 23rd 04 11:48 PM

LOL !!! Now thats Results! Preesi what did it for you?..a wire antenna?
That usually works!

Congrats!

KB
"Preesi" wrote in message
...
OMG OMG OMG!
I got a Picture on my SSTV decoder!
Terrific!






Preesi January 24th 04 01:01 AM

N8KDV wrote:
Preesi wrote:

OMG OMG OMG!
I got a Picture on my SSTV decoder!
Terrific!


Britney Spears?


No!
But I did get some cheesecake Photos!
:::rolls eyes:::



Preesi January 24th 04 01:02 AM

KB wrote:
LOL !!! Now thats Results! Preesi what did it for you?..a wire
antenna? That usually works!

Congrats!



Stock Radio Shack wire antenna



Preesi January 24th 04 01:24 AM

Preesi wrote:
KB wrote:
LOL !!! Now thats Results! Preesi what did it for you?..a wire
antenna? That usually works!

Congrats!



Stock Radio Shack wire antenna


BTW they didnt have any books at RS, they dont carry books anymore



WShoots1 January 24th 04 06:45 AM

Except on really outstanding days, those antennas are totally inadequate.

Heck! Even inside the square metal tube I live in I can get much stuff day and
night, using just the telescoping antennas on all my radios, from the DX-392
down. And I live near Galveston Bay in SE Texas.

I was beginning to wonder if you lived in one of those magnetic anomolies where
signals don't go in or out. Those exist all over the US.

Bill, K5BY

Diverd4777 January 24th 04 03:08 PM

Preesi:
- Try this ..

http://www.ccrane.com/220_loop.asp

- ready made, all you have to do is hook it up.

Dan


In article , "Preesi"
writes:


I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?

--

preesi




Jim Hackett January 24th 04 04:27 PM

What kind of metal tube? The kind with wheels? I also live in a Farady
cage and can't get much of anything off a whip.



"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
Except on really outstanding days, those antennas are totally

inadequate.

Heck! Even inside the square metal tube I live in I can get much stuff day

and
night, using just the telescoping antennas on all my radios, from the

DX-392
down. And I live near Galveston Bay in SE Texas.

I was beginning to wonder if you lived in one of those magnetic anomolies

where
signals don't go in or out. Those exist all over the US.

Bill, K5BY




Dxluver January 26th 04 04:10 AM

I have 2 Shortwave radios, I scan the bands alot, and yet never get
anything!
I wanna get rtty, cw and SSTV and WEFAX. HELP!
What do I look for?
Do I need a book?


Looks like they're all going to try an tell you that you have no chance in
hearing what you want...lol....keep trying. *READ A LOT* Pressi, you can't
read enough in this hobby and then take action and get out there and do you up
a good antenna for what you're trying to hear.

Take your time and have fun, more importantly.:-)

WShoots1 January 26th 04 05:18 AM

Jim: What kind of metal tube? The kind with wheels?

Well, it did have some. It's an older 12x65 mobilehome, with aluminum siding
and steel roof. The tiedowns, including those over the top, are probably
grounding the mobile, maybe even better than the ground I have in my little
office/shack.

I suspect I'm picking up sigs off the phone and power wiring. In fact, when I
clip onto a grounded wrought iron chandelier in the dining area or bathroom, I
get better signals on all bands, even AM and FM. And 3210 is better on that,
using my eTR7, than my DX-392 gets on the 65-foot outside antenna!

The ground wire is, of course, inductively (or capacitively) coupled to a
mighty long antenna, the area power lines. LOL Of course, there is some noise
on the line sometimes, but I usually win.

My trailer may be antenna -- or a reflector. Sometimes outside, I can hold a
portable close to the alum skin and get better sigs using just the radio's
whip.

73,
Bill, K5BY

Jim Hackett January 26th 04 02:55 PM

I have similar experiences. Had to mount my random wire 5 feet above roof
to keep the steel from reflecting/interfering with the signal...



"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
Jim: What kind of metal tube? The kind with wheels?

Well, it did have some. It's an older 12x65 mobilehome, with aluminum

siding
and steel roof. The tiedowns, including those over the top, are probably
grounding the mobile, maybe even better than the ground I have in my

little
office/shack.

I suspect I'm picking up sigs off the phone and power wiring. In fact,

when I
clip onto a grounded wrought iron chandelier in the dining area or

bathroom, I
get better signals on all bands, even AM and FM. And 3210 is better on

that,
using my eTR7, than my DX-392 gets on the 65-foot outside antenna!

The ground wire is, of course, inductively (or capacitively) coupled to a
mighty long antenna, the area power lines. LOL Of course, there is some

noise
on the line sometimes, but I usually win.

My trailer may be antenna -- or a reflector. Sometimes outside, I can hold

a
portable close to the alum skin and get better sigs using just the radio's
whip.

73,
Bill, K5BY




Dxluver January 26th 04 11:59 PM

Huh? There's loads of stuff out there in the daytime.

Yep. What I think it is Steve, is that most people( I used to be one of them)
don't think there's much to hear during the daytime and when they do listen,
they don't go high enough in the spectrum to hear anything.

Lots of listening, both BCB and shortwave to hear during the day.:-)


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