"Tracy" wrote in message
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ahhh...but you and I both know that the courts aren't always right!

The courts and the government accecpt transsexuals. Transsexuality
isn't much of an issue with most people. You'll probably find more
people who think internet porn sites are a bigger moral issue.

Besides you are speaking about one state, how about the other 49?

A state ID that's good in one state is good in all of them.

Tracy

Frank Dresser

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:23:35 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"Tracy" wrote in message
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ahhh...but you and I both know that the courts aren't always right!

The courts and the government accecpt transsexuals. Transsexuality
isn't much of an issue with most people. You'll probably find more
people who think internet porn sites are a bigger moral issue.

Besides you are speaking about one state, how about the other 49?

A state ID that's good in one state is good in all of them.

Tracy

Frank Dresser


I'm not talking about the validity of the ID in another state. I'm
talking about obtaining one from another state.

Tracy

"Tracy" wrote in message
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I'm not talking about the validity of the ID in another state. I'm
talking about obtaining one from another state.

Tracy

Don't know.

Frank Dresser

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:23:35 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"Tracy" wrote in message
.. .

ahhh...but you and I both know that the courts aren't always right!

The courts and the government accecpt transsexuals. Transsexuality
isn't much of an issue with most people. You'll probably find more
people who think internet porn sites are a bigger moral issue.


I disagree...Ask most people what they think about it and I think that
they would see it as very perverted.

Tracy

"Tracy" wrote in message
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I disagree...Ask most people what they think about it and I think that
they would see it as very perverted.

Tracy

There are many anti-internet porn groups such as Morality in Media. How
many similiar anti-transexual groups are there?

Have the anti-transsexual groups ever testified before Congress?

Frank Dresser

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:42:13 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"Tracy" wrote in message
.. .

I disagree...Ask most people what they think about it and I think that
they would see it as very perverted.

Tracy

There are many anti-internet porn groups such as Morality in Media. How
many similiar anti-transexual groups are there?

Have the anti-transsexual groups ever testified before Congress?

Frank Dresser

Those questions I cannot answer, but I would think that if a person
took a street survey they would find that most people would be against
it. I would venture to say that a good 95 percent would not agree with
it. Just because people don't speak out against it does not mean that
they support it.

Porn is just so much larger that it attracts attention to a very large
degree. Look at the spam that the average person gets. Most of it is
porn related. I filter my kids computers. I don't agree with porn
either.

Tracy

"Tracy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:42:13 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


There are many anti-internet porn groups such as Morality in Media.
How
many similiar anti-transexual groups are there?

Have the anti-transsexual groups ever testified before Congress?

Frank Dresser

Those questions I cannot answer, but I would think that if a person
took a street survey they would find that most people would be against
it. I would venture to say that a good 95 percent would not agree with
it. Just because people don't speak out against it does not mean that
they support it.


Hardly anybody speaks out against it. Hardly anybody even thinks about
it. It's not much of an issue for most people.



Porn is just so much larger that it attracts attention to a very large
degree. Look at the spam that the average person gets. Most of it is
porn related. I filter my kids computers. I don't agree with porn
either.

Tracy

Let's imagine some other person asked you for some good moral parenting
tips. I imagine you'd emphisize good loving discipline, good study
habits, restrict internet access, have some fun, go to church, etc.

I really can't imagine the first thing you'd emphisize would "Make sure
the kids don't become transvestites!".

Frank Dresser

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 02:06:10 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


"Tracy" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:42:13 GMT, "Frank Dresser"
wrote:


There are many anti-internet porn groups such as Morality in Media.
How
many similiar anti-transexual groups are there?

Have the anti-transsexual groups ever testified before Congress?

Frank Dresser

Those questions I cannot answer, but I would think that if a person
took a street survey they would find that most people would be against
it. I would venture to say that a good 95 percent would not agree with
it. Just because people don't speak out against it does not mean that
they support it.


Hardly anybody speaks out against it. Hardly anybody even thinks about
it. It's not much of an issue for most people.



Porn is just so much larger that it attracts attention to a very large
degree. Look at the spam that the average person gets. Most of it is
porn related. I filter my kids computers. I don't agree with porn
either.

Tracy

Let's imagine some other person asked you for some good moral parenting
tips. I imagine you'd emphisize good loving discipline, good study
habits, restrict internet access, have some fun, go to church, etc.

I really can't imagine the first thing you'd emphisize would "Make sure
the kids don't become transvestites!".

Frank Dresser

Your right! Just because it lacks popularity within the framework of
moral does not mean that people agree with it or even come close to
agreeing. Like I said, porn is everywhere, people see it all the time.
Probably 1 in 500000 people are transsexuals. It's not on people
minds. Does that make it any less immoral? Most people would probably
agree that they think more about porn, gays or lesbians as issues but
if the subject where brought up I would gamble that they would agree
that it is perverted and immoral. You don't hear about pedophilia as
much either but is it any less immoral that porn?

Tracy

"Tracy" wrote in message
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Your right! Just because it lacks popularity within the framework of
moral does not mean that people agree with it or even come close to
agreeing. Like I said, porn is everywhere, people see it all the time.
Probably 1 in 500000 people are transsexuals. It's not on people
minds. Does that make it any less immoral? Most people would probably
agree that they think more about porn, gays or lesbians as issues but
if the subject where brought up I would gamble that they would agree
that it is perverted and immoral. You don't hear about pedophilia as
much either but is it any less immoral that porn?

Tracy

Among the stories on today's news, there was one about a teacher who was
arrested for molesting a young girl. A couple of weeks ago, some guy
was arrested for trying to seduce a 14 year old girl in a chatroom
relationship. The pedophile priest scandal hasn't gone away, even if
some of the accusations are 10 or 20 years old. The pedophelia issue
gets more attention than the internet porn issue.

The penalities are certainly more severe. Anyway, links internet porn
are a common occourance on newsgroups, even this one.

But as far as the morality goes, clearly pedophelia is the most immoral.
Internet porn can be seen as a threat to the public morals, especially
the morals of children. Transvestism threatens no one.

Frank Dresser