blo·vi·ate

To discourse at length in a pompous OR boastful manner (emphasis

Bob, thanks for showing everyone WHY I said

"pompous bloviating"

is redundant!

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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:06:25 GMT, (Bob) wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:32:50 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

the BBC does not even broadcast to north america. kinda forgot that in
your pompous bloviating, didnt you?

Pompous Bloviating... ROTFL!

PLEASE give me some more easy shots like
that redundancy, Bob!

On Planet Earth, it's easy to recognize that
folks who use words like "Bloviating" are...

POMPOUS!

But, on Planet Bob, you're oblivious!

ROTFLMAO!

dontcha love it when guys who are too stupid to know that the BBC lied
cant even go to dictionary.com and read:

blo·vi·ate

To discourse at length in a pompous OR boastful manner (emphasis
added)

in your rather sorry state, lacking all credibility, your boastfulness
AND pompousity are a poor substitute for your pathetic knowledge...or
lack thereof...of any aspect of the BBC, shortwave, or international
broadcasting.


---------------------------
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and enter 'wf3h' in the field

Mark Byford's statement actually came AFTER the
BBC had decided to stop direct SW to USA.

if you'll permit to say:

Bull****.
the BBC quit broadcasting to NA several years ago.

The Byford statement was mentioned by me, here in RRS,
in 2001:

From: W G White )
Subject: Q: US/Aussie swl DXers - hows the World Service blackout
doing?

Date: 2001-12-07 13:12:26 PST

Joe [---] wrote in message ...
"Your Friend Bill" "Remove The NO In The Reply wrote
message ...
[...]
For the most part we can still hear the WS but we're real ****ed about
the affront...especially the auto-workers in Detroit. [...]
Why them in particular?

Mr. Byford apparently thinks Detroit auto workers are not part
of the BBC's target audience of opinion formers and decision
makers. He revealed this idea in a news interview:

"What is important in the States is what type of listener we're
getting," says Mr. Byford. "We're not going to stop the Detroit car
worker listening to the World Service -- we welcome anyone -- but
our target audience is opinion formers and decision makers."
-- Mark Byford

What a concept, heh.

Geoff
---

On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:02:48 GMT, (Bob) wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:32:48 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

"What is important in the States is what type of listener
we're getting," says Mr. Byford.

ahem. let me point out a simple fact:

the BBC does not even broadcast to north america. kinda forgot that in

Mark Byford's statement actually came AFTER the
BBC had decided to stop direct SW to USA.

if you'll permit to say:

Bull****.

the BBC quit broadcasting to NA several years ago.




He made
lots of comments on the fact that they believed FM
rebroadcast of BBC was reaching the right target,
and that was one of them. They even claimed that
their US audience numbers were increasing due to
listeners on FM.


which had zip to do with the thread at all. the BBC does not use FM on
shortwave. those of us who DO shortwave kinda know that...

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and enter 'wf3h' in the field

= = = "W G (Geoff) White"
= = = wrote in message . ..

- - - S N I P - - -

Mark Byford's statement actually came AFTER the BBC had decided
to stop direct SW to USA. He made lots of comments on the fact
that they believed FM rebroadcast of BBC was reaching the right
target, and that was one of them. They even claimed that their
US audience numbers were increasing due to listeners on FM.

- - - S N I P - - -

WGW,

The BBC World Service (BBC-WS) is being 'offered' in the USofA
to local FM & AM Radio Stations associated with the Public
Broadcasting System's Radio Services (usually college and
community stations). The "Syndicator" for the BBC-WS is Public
Radio International (PRI). PRI offers the BBC-WS at a very low
cost as an alternative news service to PBS's National Public Radio
news programs: Morning Edition, All Things Considered, Weekend
Edition, ETC. The PRI and BBC-WS 'relationship' has been on-going
for about 2 to 3 Years.


THE PAST:
As a young man growing up in the 1960s
Pop Science & Electronics were cutting edge reading and Shortwave
and being a Ham was about being out there.
But today there are ten times the number of Computer Magazines
and many more OnLine "eZins" on the Web.
The simple fact is... Today's young people will not be the next
generation of SWLs.

The Demographics are Clear; Count the Number of Households in
the USofA with:
* Three or more AM/FM Radios
* Two or more TV Sets
* Cable Hook-up * Satellite TV Dish
* Car or Truck with a AM/FM Radio
* Home Computer with Internet
* Local Newspaper Delivery
* Shortwave Radio
YES - Shortwave Radios are at the bottom of the list.


THE BBC's FUTURE IN THE USofA:
For most Americans there is nothing more convenience then simply
turning on a common AM/FM Radio in their home, at work, in their
car, or on a portable at the park. Listening to the AM/FM Radio
is part of every American's Daily Routine at some time during
the day for an average of two or more hours.

There may very well be One Million 'regular' SWLs in the USofA.
(That comes out to be 1 in 300 persons.)
What is the Demographics of the average SWL in the USofA ?
Largely: White Male; Age 45-60
Some College
Clearly a Limited and Diminishing Customer Market for the BBC-WS.

The BBC is 'now' on Cable TV.

The BBC is 'now' on TV via the Dish.

The BBC & BBC-WS is 'now' on the Internet.

The BBC-WS is 'now' on FM Radio via PRI and your
'local' Public/College FM Stations.


WHY "FM" RADIO:
Lets say 1 in 60 person's listens regularly to an FM 'public'
Radio Station.
And Once-A-Week each of these Listeners is 'exposed' to the BBC-WS.
[ That is Five Time (5X) the Audience at a Lower Cost to the BBC. ]
That is what the BBC wants a 'new' Listener and a Growing Audience.
* A Younger Listener (Building the Future Listener Base) )
* More Female Listeners equal to the number of Male Listeners.
* Greater Numbers of Multi-Racial and Ethnic Listeners
* A College Age Audience (Public Radio Stations are frequently
associated with Colleges.)
* To Inform and Shape the Views of America's Next Generation of Leaders.
* To Build an Affinity (Cultural Link) between Young Americans
and British Traditions and Ideas.
[More of America's Future Leaders will come from this Social-Economic Group.]


TODAY IN THE USofA:

The BBC and the BBC-WS are focused on Tomorrow
and a New Generation of Listeners.

The BBC and the BBC-WS are using Today's Technology to
Deliver their Message.

For the BBC and the BBC-WS, it is All About Getting Your Message
to the 'Right' People for the Lowest Cost.


mtywtk ~ RHF

..

..

RHF,

Thanks for providing some more interesting
facts and info about BBC!

Best wishes,

Geoff
---

On 11 Feb 2004 09:05:07 -0800, (RHF)
wrote:

= = = "W G (Geoff) White"
= = = wrote in message . ..

- - - S N I P - - -

Mark Byford's statement actually came AFTER the BBC had decided
to stop direct SW to USA. He made lots of comments on the fact
that they believed FM rebroadcast of BBC was reaching the right
target, and that was one of them. They even claimed that their
US audience numbers were increasing due to listeners on FM.

- - - S N I P - - -

WGW,

The BBC World Service (BBC-WS) is being 'offered' in the USofA
to local FM & AM Radio Stations associated with the Public
Broadcasting System's Radio Services (usually college and
community stations). The "Syndicator" for the BBC-WS is Public
Radio International (PRI). PRI offers the BBC-WS at a very low
cost as an alternative news service to PBS's National Public Radio
news programs: Morning Edition, All Things Considered, Weekend
Edition, ETC. The PRI and BBC-WS 'relationship' has been on-going
for about 2 to 3 Years.


THE PAST:
As a young man growing up in the 1960s
Pop Science & Electronics were cutting edge reading and Shortwave
and being a Ham was about being out there.
But today there are ten times the number of Computer Magazines
and many more OnLine "eZins" on the Web.
The simple fact is... Today's young people will not be the next
generation of SWLs.

The Demographics are Clear; Count the Number of Households in
the USofA with:
* Three or more AM/FM Radios
* Two or more TV Sets
* Cable Hook-up * Satellite TV Dish
* Car or Truck with a AM/FM Radio
* Home Computer with Internet
* Local Newspaper Delivery
* Shortwave Radio
YES - Shortwave Radios are at the bottom of the list.


THE BBC's FUTURE IN THE USofA:
For most Americans there is nothing more convenience then simply
turning on a common AM/FM Radio in their home, at work, in their
car, or on a portable at the park. Listening to the AM/FM Radio
is part of every American's Daily Routine at some time during
the day for an average of two or more hours.

There may very well be One Million 'regular' SWLs in the USofA.
(That comes out to be 1 in 300 persons.)
What is the Demographics of the average SWL in the USofA ?
Largely: White Male; Age 45-60
Some College
Clearly a Limited and Diminishing Customer Market for the BBC-WS.

The BBC is 'now' on Cable TV.

The BBC is 'now' on TV via the Dish.

The BBC & BBC-WS is 'now' on the Internet.

The BBC-WS is 'now' on FM Radio via PRI and your
'local' Public/College FM Stations.


WHY "FM" RADIO:
Lets say 1 in 60 person's listens regularly to an FM 'public'
Radio Station.
And Once-A-Week each of these Listeners is 'exposed' to the BBC-WS.
[ That is Five Time (5X) the Audience at a Lower Cost to the BBC. ]
That is what the BBC wants a 'new' Listener and a Growing Audience.
* A Younger Listener (Building the Future Listener Base) )
* More Female Listeners equal to the number of Male Listeners.
* Greater Numbers of Multi-Racial and Ethnic Listeners
* A College Age Audience (Public Radio Stations are frequently
associated with Colleges.)
* To Inform and Shape the Views of America's Next Generation of Leaders.
* To Build an Affinity (Cultural Link) between Young Americans
and British Traditions and Ideas.
[More of America's Future Leaders will come from this Social-Economic Group.]


TODAY IN THE USofA:

The BBC and the BBC-WS are focused on Tomorrow
and a New Generation of Listeners.

The BBC and the BBC-WS are using Today's Technology to
Deliver their Message.

For the BBC and the BBC-WS, it is All About Getting Your Message
to the 'Right' People for the Lowest Cost.


mtywtk ~ RHF

.

.

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:27:55 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

Mark Byford's statement actually came AFTER the
BBC had decided to stop direct SW to USA.

if you'll permit to say:

Bull****.
the BBC quit broadcasting to NA several years ago.

The Byford statement was mentioned by me, here in RRS,
in 2001:

From: W G White )
Subject: Q: US/Aussie swl DXers - hows the World Service blackout
doing?

someday...someday...the left will learn to quit whimpering, whining
and complaining

the issue was the BBC's lies...and lie they did. they admitted it.
geoff...ever willing to mouth the BBC's cliches about their
objectivity...is reluctant to admit what the BBC itself told us:

it lied.

---------------------------
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and enter 'wf3h' in the field

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:01:41 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:


blo·vi·ate

To discourse at length in a pompous OR boastful manner (emphasis

Bob, thanks for showing everyone WHY I said

"pompous bloviating"

is redundant!


geoff, head of the dept of redundancy dept, is loathe to read a
dictionary, let alone admit the BBC lied

the left just cant handle the truth...

---
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:06:25 GMT, (Bob) wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:32:50 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

the BBC does not even broadcast to north america. kinda forgot that in
your pompous bloviating, didnt you?

Pompous Bloviating... ROTFL!

PLEASE give me some more easy shots like
that redundancy, Bob!

On Planet Earth, it's easy to recognize that
folks who use words like "Bloviating" are...

POMPOUS!

But, on Planet Bob, you're oblivious!

ROTFLMAO!

dontcha love it when guys who are too stupid to know that the BBC lied
cant even go to dictionary.com and read:

blo·vi·ate

To discourse at length in a pompous OR boastful manner (emphasis
added)

in your rather sorry state, lacking all credibility, your boastfulness
AND pompousity are a poor substitute for your pathetic knowledge...or
lack thereof...of any aspect of the BBC, shortwave, or international
broadcasting.


---------------------------
to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com"
and enter 'wf3h' in the field


---------------------------
to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com"
and enter 'wf3h' in the field

Bob, thanks for showing everyone WHY I said

"pompous bloviating"

is redundant!


geoff, head of the dept of redundancy dept, is loathe to read a
dictionary, let alone admit the BBC lied


You spout "pompous bloviating."

I say redundant.

You live with that.

I'm off to greener pastures.

Best wishes, no kidding,

Geoff
---

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:20:29 GMT, (Bob) wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 22:01:41 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:


blo·vi·ate

To discourse at length in a pompous OR boastful manner (emphasis

Bob, thanks for showing everyone WHY I said

"pompous bloviating"

is redundant!


geoff, head of the dept of redundancy dept, is loathe to read a
dictionary, let alone admit the BBC lied

the left just cant handle the truth...

---
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:06:25 GMT, (Bob) wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:32:50 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

the BBC does not even broadcast to north america. kinda forgot that in
your pompous bloviating, didnt you?

Pompous Bloviating... ROTFL!

PLEASE give me some more easy shots like
that redundancy, Bob!

On Planet Earth, it's easy to recognize that
folks who use words like "Bloviating" are...

POMPOUS!

But, on Planet Bob, you're oblivious!

ROTFLMAO!

dontcha love it when guys who are too stupid to know that the BBC lied
cant even go to dictionary.com and read:

blo·vi·ate

To discourse at length in a pompous OR boastful manner (emphasis
added)

in your rather sorry state, lacking all credibility, your boastfulness
AND pompousity are a poor substitute for your pathetic knowledge...or
lack thereof...of any aspect of the BBC, shortwave, or international
broadcasting.


---------------------------
to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com"
and enter 'wf3h' in the field


---------------------------
to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com"
and enter 'wf3h' in the field

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:43:11 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

Bob, thanks for showing everyone WHY I said

"pompous bloviating"

is redundant!


geoff, head of the dept of redundancy dept, is loathe to read a
dictionary, let alone admit the BBC lied


You spout "pompous bloviating."

I say redundant.

You live with that.

I'm off to greener pastures.
\
no doubt fertilized with the lies of the BBC which you lefties fail to
acknowledge

wonder why he focuses on irrelevancies, instead of the real issue? too
embarrassed?

by the way...how's uncle joe's cold?

---------------------------
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and enter 'wf3h' in the field

I'm off to greener pastures.
\
no doubt fertilized with the lies of the BBC which you lefties fail to
acknowledge

Bob's off to browner pastures.
---

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:09:33 GMT, (Bob) wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:43:11 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

Bob, thanks for showing everyone WHY I said

"pompous bloviating"

is redundant!


geoff, head of the dept of redundancy dept, is loathe to read a
dictionary, let alone admit the BBC lied


You spout "pompous bloviating."

I say redundant.

You live with that.

I'm off to greener pastures.
\
no doubt fertilized with the lies of the BBC which you lefties fail to
acknowledge

wonder why he focuses on irrelevancies, instead of the real issue? too
embarrassed?

by the way...how's uncle joe's cold?

---------------------------
to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com"
and enter 'wf3h' in the field

You're going to have to do better than that Geoff. Bob's won this little
debate, hands-down.

"W G (Geoff) White" wrote in message
...
I'm off to greener pastures.
\
no doubt fertilized with the lies of the BBC which you lefties fail to
acknowledge

Bob's off to browner pastures.
---

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:09:33 GMT, (Bob) wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 18:43:11 -0500, "W G (Geoff) White"
wrote:

Bob, thanks for showing everyone WHY I said

"pompous bloviating"

is redundant!


geoff, head of the dept of redundancy dept, is loathe to read a
dictionary, let alone admit the BBC lied


You spout "pompous bloviating."

I say redundant.

You live with that.

I'm off to greener pastures.
\
no doubt fertilized with the lies of the BBC which you lefties fail to
acknowledge

wonder why he focuses on irrelevancies, instead of the real issue? too
embarrassed?

by the way...how's uncle joe's cold?

---------------------------
to see who "wf3h" is, go to "qrz.com"
and enter 'wf3h' in the field