In message , RHF
writes
MJP,

"The BBC *never* served the British Government.
Lord Reith arranged that in the 1920's. Fortunately."

To Re-State My Point: "The BBC No Longer Serves the British People
or the British Government."

Do you retract your Point about the BBC serving the British Government?

The current BBC Management and Staff are an Elitist Class who 'think'
that they "Exist" to Serve a Higher Truth and 'The World'. The BBC
is Culturally Isolated from the Rest of the common people of the UK.

1. If you mean the beer and chips brigade then I hope so.

2. Judging by the dumbed-down crap on all channels you are wrong.

They suffer for the misguided Idea that they are "The PRESS" the
Exhaled and Anointed Few: The Sayers of Truth and Understanding.
* 'The PRESS' has No More Rights then any other Citizen of their
Country of Nationality.

They do, actually.

* 'The PRESS' does Not Wear a UN Blue Hat.
* 'The PRESS does Not Have Diplomatic Status or Immunity.
* Being a Member of 'The PRESS' does not Make You Bullet Proof
in a War Zone or Time of Civil Disorder.
* 'The PRESS' Is Not A Class Above All Others: They are simply
common ordinary citizens doing a JOB [.]

Who said that they were?

[ What Makes a Nation Great is the Life It Affords every common
ordinary CITIZEN:

Is it?

Not The Prestige That Is Afforded 'The PRESS'. ]

What 'prestige'? Ever popularity poll for many years has placed the
'Press' at the bottom, next to politicians.

The BBC was 'created' to Serve the 'interests' of People of the UK

'Inform, Entertain, Educate?

and as such in doing so indirectly serves the government of the UK.

Only in fields like education.

The BBC does not 'exist' in a vacuum as an Entity Un-to-Its-Self.

Who said it did?

The BBC is FAILING at Being "The BBC" and needs to Return to 'First
Principles' of providing Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair News
and Information to the British People that is NOT Obviously Biased
and Hostile to the British Government and the common interests of
the British People.

The 'Press' as a whole are the only defence we have against our own
government.


ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts.

But opinions are not facts.

You're not British are you?

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

MJP,

My replies as inserted in to the prior Message.

= = = "M. J. Powell"
= = = wrote in message ...
In message , RHF
writes
MJP,

"The BBC *never* served the British Government.
Lord Reith arranged that in the 1920's. Fortunately."

To Re-State My Point: "The BBC No Longer Serves the British People
or the British Government."

Do you retract your Point about the BBC serving the British Government?

NO - First 'the British People' followed by (therefore it follows)
'the British Government'.
..
..

The current BBC Management and Staff are an Elitist Class who 'think'
that they "Exist" to Serve a Higher Truth and 'The World'. The BBC
is Culturally Isolated from the Rest of the common people of the UK.

1. If you mean the beer and chips brigade then I hope so.


YES - The average everyday British Citizen. (The 'common' Man.)
..
..
2. Judging by the dumbed-down crap on all channels you are wrong.

HELLO - We Are Talking About the BBC's News and Information Content [.]
[ Not the entire programming content of the BBC. ]
..
..

They suffer for the misguided Idea that they are "The PRESS" the
Exhaled and Anointed Few: The Sayers of Truth and Understanding.
* 'The PRESS' has No More Rights then any other Citizen of their
Country of Nationality.

They do, actually.

NO - In Fact a Guaranteed Constitutional Right is 'Freedom' of
"The PRESS [.] All other 'legal constructions' that are Claimed to
be "Derivatives" of that basic right have No actual basis in law.

A Member of "The PRESS" simply has the Rights that are Guaranteed
Every Citizen.

Being a Member of "The PRESS" Does NOT Make One A SUPER-Citizen [.]
..
..

* 'The PRESS' does Not Wear a UN Blue Hat.
* 'The PRESS does Not Have Diplomatic Status or Immunity.
* Being a Member of 'The PRESS' does not Make You Bullet Proof
in a War Zone or Time of Civil Disorder.
* 'The PRESS' Is Not A Class Above All Others: They are simply
common ordinary citizens doing a JOB [.]

Who said that they were ?

It is NOT what is said - It Is How "The PRESS" Acts [.]
..
..
[ What Makes a Nation Great is the Life It Affords every common
ordinary CITIZEN:

Is it?

YES - IT IS [.]
..
..
Not The Prestige That Is Afforded 'The PRESS'. ]

What 'prestige'? Ever popularity poll for many years has placed the
'Press' at the bottom, next to politicians.

The PRESTIGE that "The PRESS" tries to Confer on It's-Self [.]
..
..
The BBC was 'created' to Serve the 'interests' of People of the UK

'Inform, Entertain, Educate?

HELLO - We Are Talking About the BBC's News and Information Content [.]
[ Not the entire programming content of the BBC. ]
..
..
and as such in doing so indirectly serves the government of the UK.

Only in fields like education.

News and Information that is Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair
creates an Informed Electorate and a Better Citizen; and Results
in Better Governance.

..
..

The BBC does not 'exist' in a vacuum as an Entity Un-to-Its-Self.

Who said it did?

It is demonstrated daily in the Recent 'slant' that the BBC Presents in
the News and Information that it provides to the British People that is
Openly Hostile to the British Government. It Is How the BBC 'reacts'
to "Outside" Criticism.
..
..
The BBC is FAILING at Being "The BBC" and needs to Return to 'First
Principles' of providing Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair News
and Information to the British People that is NOT Obviously Biased
and Hostile to the British Government and the common interests of
the British People.

The 'Press' as a whole are the only defence we have against our own
government.

NO - An Informed Electorate is the Best Defense against Bad Government.
"The PRESS's role is to provide: Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair
News and Information to Keep the Average Citizen Imformed.
The BBC is Failing in this Role because it is Openly 'slanting' the
BBC's News and Information with a decided Anti-British Government
Message [.]
..
..
ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts.

But opinions are not facts.

HELLO "Reality Check"
For Most People (Read the Average Citizen):
* Our FEELINGS Are Facts [.]
* Our OPINIONS Are A "Statement" of Our Feelings [.]
* Our Opinions Are FACTS [.] (Our Personal Reality)
Therefo So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts.
..
The Age Old Question of Politicians is . . .
So Tell Me "What Is John Q Public Saying ?"
Translation: Public Opinion -IS- Political Fact [.]
..
..
You're not British are you?

Mike

HEY - You Got That Right ! )
..
Proud To Say: I Am An American ~ RHF
..
..

In message , RHF
writes
MJP,

My replies as inserted in to the prior Message.

= = = "M. J. Powell"
= = = wrote in message ...
In message , RHF
writes
MJP,

"The BBC *never* served the British Government.
Lord Reith arranged that in the 1920's. Fortunately."

To Re-State My Point: "The BBC No Longer Serves the British People
or the British Government."

Do you retract your Point about the BBC serving the British Government?

NO - First 'the British People' followed by (therefore it follows)
'the British Government'.

If the BBC serves the British people it does not follow that it
automatically serves the British government.
.
.

The current BBC Management and Staff are an Elitist Class who 'think'
that they "Exist" to Serve a Higher Truth and 'The World'. The BBC
is Culturally Isolated from the Rest of the common people of the UK.

1. If you mean the beer and chips brigade then I hope so.


YES - The average everyday British Citizen. (The 'common' Man.)

Then good on the BBC. There is no reason that the morons should have it
all their own way.
.
.
2. Judging by the dumbed-down crap on all channels you are wrong.

HELLO - We Are Talking About the BBC's News and Information Content [.]
[ Not the entire programming content of the BBC. ]

OK

They suffer for the misguided Idea that they are "The PRESS" the
Exhaled and Anointed Few: The Sayers of Truth and Understanding.
* 'The PRESS' has No More Rights then any other Citizen of their
Country of Nationality.

They do, actually.

NO - In Fact a Guaranteed Constitutional Right is 'Freedom' of
"The PRESS [.] All other 'legal constructions' that are Claimed to
be "Derivatives" of that basic right have No actual basis in law.

To remind you of what you said above 'we are talking of BBC News and
Information content.' In this country we 'qualified privilege' for the
press when reporting certain stories.


A Member of "The PRESS" simply has the Rights that are Guaranteed
Every Citizen.

Not here. Make up your mind which country you are referring to.

Being a Member of "The PRESS" Does NOT Make One A SUPER-Citizen [.]

Who claimed so?
.
.

* 'The PRESS' does Not Wear a UN Blue Hat.
* 'The PRESS does Not Have Diplomatic Status or Immunity.
* Being a Member of 'The PRESS' does not Make You Bullet Proof
in a War Zone or Time of Civil Disorder.
* 'The PRESS' Is Not A Class Above All Others: They are simply
common ordinary citizens doing a JOB [.]

Who said that they were ?

It is NOT what is said - It Is How "The PRESS" Acts [.]

The press wears a UN blue hat?
The press claims Diplomatic Status and Immunity?
The press claims to be bullet-proof?
Right.
.
.
[ What Makes a Nation Great is the Life It Affords every common
ordinary CITIZEN:

Is it?

YES - IT IS [.]
.
.
Not The Prestige That Is Afforded 'The PRESS'. ]

What 'prestige'? Ever popularity poll for many years has placed the
'Press' at the bottom, next to politicians.

The PRESTIGE that "The PRESS" tries to Confer on It's-Self [.]

How do you claim prestige?
.
.
The BBC was 'created' to Serve the 'interests' of People of the UK

'Inform, Entertain, Educate?

HELLO - We Are Talking About the BBC's News and Information Content [.]
[ Not the entire programming content of the BBC. ]
.
.
and as such in doing so indirectly serves the government of the UK.

Only in fields like education.

News and Information that is Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair
creates an Informed Electorate and a Better Citizen; and Results
in Better Governance.

Hehehe!

The BBC does not 'exist' in a vacuum as an Entity Un-to-Its-Self.

Who said it did?

It is demonstrated daily in the Recent 'slant' that the BBC Presents in
the News and Information that it provides to the British People that is
Openly Hostile to the British Government. It Is How the BBC 'reacts'
to "Outside" Criticism.

It is the duty of the BBC and press to point out to the public the
cock-ups of the government, of whichever party. And there have been
plenty from this government. Foot-and-mouth disease, immigrants, the
NHS, the railways, the fishing industry...etc.
.
.
The BBC is FAILING at Being "The BBC" and needs to Return to 'First
Principles' of providing Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair News
and Information to the British People that is NOT Obviously Biased
and Hostile to the British Government and the common interests of
the British People.

To point out negatives is not being hostile.

The 'Press' as a whole are the only defence we have against our own
government.

NO - An Informed Electorate is the Best Defense against Bad Government.
"The PRESS's role is to provide: Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair
News and Information to Keep the Average Citizen Imformed.

The BBC is informing the electorate.
The press usually doesn't have enough information to be 'Accurate'
particularly when most of the info comes from the government itself.

The BBC is Failing in this Role because it is Openly 'slanting' the
BBC's News and Information with a decided Anti-British Government
Message [.]

"Dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is news".

You're not British are you?

HEY - You Got That Right ! )

I wonder how I guessed.

.
Proud To Say: I Am An American ~ RHF

Well, OK. Not everyone can be British.

Mike
--
M.J.Powell

"M. J. Powell" wrote in message ...
In message , RHF
writes
MJP,

My replies as inserted in to the prior Message.

= = = "M. J. Powell"
= = = wrote in message ...
In message , RHF
writes
MJP,

"The BBC *never* served the British Government.
Lord Reith arranged that in the 1920's. Fortunately."

To Re-State My Point: "The BBC No Longer Serves the British People
or the British Government."

Do you retract your Point about the BBC serving the British Government?

NO - First 'the British People' followed by (therefore it follows)
'the British Government'.

If the BBC serves the British people it does not follow that it
automatically serves the British government.

1. The British People 're-create' the British Government with each
new "Election".

2. The British Government 'created' the BBC to "Serve" the British People.

3. You Draw Your Own Conclusion -&- I Will Draw My Own Conclusion.
..
..
.
.

The current BBC Management and Staff are an Elitist Class who 'think'
that they "Exist" to Serve a Higher Truth and 'The World'. The BBC
is Culturally Isolated from the Rest of the common people of the UK.

1. If you mean the beer and chips brigade then I hope so.


YES - The average everyday British Citizen. (The 'common' Man.)

Then good on the BBC. There is no reason that the morons should have it
all their own way.

So... You 'label' the average everyday British Citizen "A MORON"
(The 'common' Man.)
..
..
.
.
2. Judging by the dumbed-down crap on all channels you are wrong.

HELLO - We Are Talking About the BBC's News and Information Content [.]
[ Not the entire programming content of the BBC. ]

OK

They suffer for the misguided Idea that they are "The PRESS" the
Exhaled and Anointed Few: The Sayers of Truth and Understanding.
* 'The PRESS' has No More Rights then any other Citizen of their
Country of Nationality.

They do, actually.

NO - In Fact a Guaranteed Constitutional Right is 'Freedom' of
"The PRESS [.] All other 'legal constructions' that are Claimed to
be "Derivatives" of that basic right have No actual basis in law.

To remind you of what you said above 'we are talking of BBC News and
Information content.' In this country we 'qualified privilege' for the
press when reporting certain stories.


A Member of "The PRESS" simply has the Rights that are Guaranteed
Every Citizen.

Not here. Make up your mind which country you are referring to.

In Your Mind.
..
..

Being a Member of "The PRESS" Does NOT Make One A SUPER-Citizen [.]

Who claimed so?

"The PRESS" by their Elitist Actions and Arrogant Nature !
..
..
.
.

* 'The PRESS' does Not Wear a UN Blue Hat.
* 'The PRESS does Not Have Diplomatic Status or Immunity.
* Being a Member of 'The PRESS' does not Make You Bullet Proof
in a War Zone or Time of Civil Disorder.
* 'The PRESS' Is Not A Class Above All Others: They are simply
common ordinary citizens doing a JOB [.]

Who said that they were ?

It is NOT what is said - It Is How "The PRESS" Acts [.]

The press wears a UN blue hat?
The press claims Diplomatic Status and Immunity?
The press claims to be bullet-proof?
Right.

"The PRESS" by their Elitist Actions and Arrogant Nature !
..
..
.
.
[ What Makes a Nation Great is the Life It Affords every common
ordinary CITIZEN:

Is it?

YES - IT IS [.]
.
.
Not The Prestige That Is Afforded 'The PRESS'. ]

What 'prestige'? Ever popularity poll for many years has placed the
'Press' at the bottom, next to politicians.

The PRESTIGE that "The PRESS" tries to Confer on It's-Self [.]

How do you claim prestige?

"The PRESS" by their Elitist Actions and Arrogant Nature !
..
..
.
.
The BBC was 'created' to Serve the 'interests' of People of the UK

'Inform, Entertain, Educate?

HELLO - We Are Talking About the BBC's News and Information Content [.]
[ Not the entire programming content of the BBC. ]
.
.
and as such in doing so indirectly serves the government of the UK.

Only in fields like education.

News and Information that is Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair
creates an Informed Electorate and a Better Citizen; and Results
in Better Governance.

Hehehe!

The BBC does not 'exist' in a vacuum as an Entity Un-to-Its-Self.

Who said it did?

It is demonstrated daily in the Recent 'slant' that the BBC Presents in
the News and Information that it provides to the British People that is
Openly Hostile to the British Government. It Is How the BBC 'reacts'
to "Outside" Criticism.

It is the duty of the BBC and press to point out to the public the
cock-ups of the government, of whichever party. And there have been
plenty from this government. Foot-and-mouth disease, immigrants, the
NHS, the railways, the fishing industry...etc.

YES - But, the BBC has taken on a decidely "Slanted" and Biased
Distortion of News and Information with respect to the current
British Government.

The BBC needs to return to providing News and Information that
is Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair to the British People;
and once again create an Well Informed British Electorate.

IT IS AN INFORMED ELECTORATE THAT WILL HOLD THE BRITISH GOVENMENT ACCOUNTABLE.
..
..

.
.
The BBC is FAILING at Being "The BBC" and needs to Return to 'First
Principles' of providing Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair News
and Information to the British People that is NOT Obviously Biased
and Hostile to the British Government and the common interests of
the British People.

To point out negatives is not being hostile.

The BBC has taken on a decidely "Slanted" and Biased Distortion
of the News and Information with respect to the current British
Government is NOT simply pointing-ot-negatives - IT IS BEING NEGATIVE.
..
..

The 'Press' as a whole are the only defence we have against our own
government.

NO - An Informed Electorate is the Best Defense against Bad Government.
"The PRESS's role is to provide: Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair
News and Information to Keep the Average Citizen Imformed.

The BBC is informing the electorate.
The press usually doesn't have enough information to be 'Accurate'
particularly when most of the info comes from the government itself.

The BBC is Failing in this Role because it is Openly 'slanting' the
BBC's News and Information with a decided Anti-British Government
Message [.]

"Dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is news".

YES - The HeadLine may indeed read "Man Bites Dog"
But, Accurate, Honest, Balanced and Fair "Reporting" of the
News and Information would also Report on the Facts concerning
the Number of People Bitten by Dogs Each Day and Ways to Prevent
People form Getting Bit by a Dog.
..
..

You're not British are you?

HEY - You Got That Right ! )

I wonder how I guessed.

.
Proud To Say: I Am An American ~ RHF

Well, OK. Not everyone can be British.

YES - I Thank God Almighty -that- I Am An American ~ RHF
..
..

Mike

..