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Brian Hill February 1st 04 03:09 PM


"B Banton" wrote in message

Nice sentence. If they did - they don't now.

Muhahhahhhaha... what a sentence...


**** Off!!!



Don Forsling February 1st 04 05:22 PM


"T. Early" wrote in message
...

"Brian Denley" wrote in message
news:16%Sb.201644$na.333691@attbi_s04...
Mike:
Don't listen to him. US BBC listeners are at an all time high.

Many of
trust that source over the ones we have here.


Wouldn't the BBC's -much- wider relatively recent distribution through
numerous FM/public radio outlets account for the increase in
listenership here? It seems to make sense that, if you make something
regularly available to a significant enough number of people, a
certain percentage are going to find it their liking, esp. on public
radio.

Exactly. If BBC listenership is at an all-time high, a big part of the
reason is simple availability from sources _other_ than shortwave
(listenership via shortwave is rapidly decreasing). One of the reasons the
BBC finds favor is that they provide coverage (on just about any subject) in
much more detail than do U.S. broadcasters with the exception of NPR.
However, it's important to keep in mind that sheer high volume of material
on a given subject doesn't, in itself, mean that the product is
"trustworthy." The extent of coverage does not necessarily have anything to
do with accuracy or trustworthiness.

As far as U.S. commercial broadcasting is concerned, there isn't enough
serious coverage of _any_ subject to even allow a listener to judge much of
anything about the reportage except that it's brief. Public broadcasters,
the BBC, NPR and so on, do tend to provide much more detail and analysis of
a very wide range of subjects. It's kind of interesting (and only that) to
note that, for example, NPR News is a far bigger _radio_ news organization
than CBS, ABC etc. _combined_. Broadcast radio news (network) in the United
States ceased to be an important or even serious activity in commercial
radio in the late 1950's. Note that nothing I've written here has anything
at all to do with the truthfulness or reliability of _any_ news
organization. I have not cast aspersions on any broadcaster, so no need to
reply as though I did. I also got up on the wrong side of the bed this
morning :-).

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Don Forsling

"Iowa--Gateway to Those Big Rectangular States"



Altawaowr February 1st 04 07:35 PM

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 07:22:04 -0500, Atlas wrote:

Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person?


1. it's free

2. no commercials

3. it's relaxing for a technical person to come home and turn dials
after a day of working with computers

4. it's a challenge to get those far-away stations and to make the
best antenna you can

5. just try to listen to "streaming audio" on days like 9/11/01,
everyone else is doing the same thing. With radio, everyone can be
tuned to the same station and everyone can still hear what's going on.

6. really good programs sometimes.

7. interesting music, from greece, brazil, africa, asia

8. you don't need to be near any big cities. You can visit your
inlaws in Podunk and there's always something to do. If you're
staying there a while, put up a big wire. Ask them first.

9. it's a unique listening experience with lots of interesting sounds
coming through to your radio, if you have the kind of spouse that is
not bothered by them

10. It saves time. You can get news bulletins before the bush
propaganda machine changes its meaning and it is put on TV the next
day for your neighbors to consume. Then later when the news reports
(or not) that the meaning or facts had been changed, it doesn't matter
to you because you didn't have to rely on biased, discredited sources
like the bush administration.

11. it's something you can enjoy at sea, on the beach in Bali, in the
Nevada desert, abroad during an attempted coup wondering what the hell
is going on outside, or in the privacy of your home.

12. if you live in the United States, you can get in touch with
what's going on in with the 96% of the people who don't. I worked at
news radio stations and know that international news is considered
unimportant in my country, it's even generally known that people will
turn the channel if international news is a subject. people here just
aren't interested. But if you're one of those people that could care
less about the Laci Petersen murder trial then stick up your middle
finger and turn on the shortwave.

13. screw the 'average person'

Altawaowr February 1st 04 10:56 PM


11. it's something you can enjoy at sea, on the beach in Bali, in the
Nevada desert, abroad during an attempted coup wondering what the hell
is going on outside, or in the privacy of your home.


Remember the attempted coup by communist hardliners during the last days
of the Soviet Union? The Russians had to rely on SW to tell them what
was going on.


a guy i worked with was in Beijing during the suppression of the
student actions in Tiananmen Square after Gorbachev visited China.
They tried to take his passport... he said he was sure glad he had
that shortwave. I figure an 'average' person could relate to that,
being surrounded by cops in a hotel and not knowing what the hell is
going on outside.

Diverd4777 February 2nd 04 02:15 AM

Interesting item in The NY Times Magazine:
- Theres a Pretty boring Column called " The Ethecist"
- About Ethics .. Nothinig really interesting..
In Any case..

In the column Sunday, A guy who is a Republican indicates he & " freinds" are
sending money
to a Democratic candidate, in the hopes he will win in the primaries,
- But then be so weak he'll be defeated by "W" in the fall

- Sounds like this is possibly where Deans $$$ is coming from..





In article , N8KDV
writes:



Diverd4777 wrote:

Hey Steve ! !

HOOWWARRRRRDDD DEEEAANNNNN . . .

BROUUUUUAHHHAHHHHAHHHAHH ! ! !!

( Gets better milage than a friggin Bicycle ..)

;-)


I'm wondering where all of Howard's money went! It was commented on this
morning that he went into Iowa with $40 million, spent something like $5
million there, and then spent around $10 million in New Hampshire, now he
seems to be down to $5 million. ??






Multithreaded February 2nd 04 04:26 PM

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 06:44:00 -0600, "Brian Hill"
brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote:


"Multithreaded"
That is a non sequitur. What is the relevance of that statement to my


Joe said:

SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters
like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda


You replied:

My God, are you a typical citizen of your country? I certainly hope
not, for the world's sake.


And I said:

Are you saying that the whole world loves us? I don't hear it when I turn

on
the radio.


Unless I'm missing part of the thread in my reader? It does make sense.
So I ask you again. Do you think the people of the UK and the world in a
whole hold us in a favorable light?
I thank you for your reply.


As I said, you are not making sense. I'll answer your question anyway.
No, I don't think every person in the world thinks well of current
American foreign policy, myself included. How on earth you can blame
us is beyond my comprehension. I would hope that - to keep at least a
small amount of relevence to this NG - your HF listening habits would
open up your mind at least slightly, but I guess the constant pounding
of the domestic media in your country must more than offset this.
Pity.

And no, I do not consider myself in the least "anti-American." I
simply regret the current choice of administration.

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Brian Hill February 2nd 04 10:35 PM


"Multithreaded" wrote in message
...
As I said, you are not making sense.


Allright?

I'll answer your question anyway.
No, I don't think every person in the world thinks well of current
American foreign policy, myself included. How on earth you can blame
us is beyond my comprehension.


No one blamed you. I just said I don't think anyone likes use from what I
hear. And for your information I don't entirly agree with our foreign policy
either.

I would hope that - to keep at least a
small amount of relevence to this NG - your HF listening habits would
open up your mind at least slightly, but I guess the constant pounding
of the domestic media in your country must more than offset this.
Pity.


Well I would hope that you'd allow me a few more words before you lable me
narrow minded and I don't listen much to the domestic media.


And no, I do not consider myself in the least "anti-American." I
simply regret the current choice of administration.


I never ment to imply that you were anti American. I just think a lot of
people are mad right now but the world never the less will be better without
Sadam in power. I do think we should have had more aproval from the global
comunity. This Yank likes the UK. Spent a little time there once. Cheers

Brian


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N8KDV February 2nd 04 10:45 PM



Brian Hill wrote:

"Multithreaded" wrote in message
...
As I said, you are not making sense.


Allright?

I'll answer your question anyway.
No, I don't think every person in the world thinks well of current
American foreign policy, myself included. How on earth you can blame
us is beyond my comprehension.


No one blamed you. I just said I don't think anyone likes use from what I
hear. And for your information I don't entirly agree with our foreign policy
either.

I would hope that - to keep at least a
small amount of relevence to this NG - your HF listening habits would
open up your mind at least slightly, but I guess the constant pounding
of the domestic media in your country must more than offset this.
Pity.


Well I would hope that you'd allow me a few more words before you lable me
narrow minded and I don't listen much to the domestic media.


And no, I do not consider myself in the least "anti-American." I
simply regret the current choice of administration.


I never ment to imply that you were anti American. I just think a lot of
people are mad right now but the world never the less will be better without
Sadam in power. I do think we should have had more aproval from the global
comunity. This Yank likes the UK. Spent a little time there once. Cheers

Brian


One must remember that jealousy engenders hatred.

We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the international community
when the vital interests of our country are at stake.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm





Brian Hill February 2nd 04 10:57 PM


"N8KDV" wrote in message

One must remember that jealousy engenders hatred.

We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the international

community
when the vital interests of our country are at stake.

Steve

Don't get me wrong Steve. When our vital interests are at stake I agree. I
just haven't determined that to be true yet? I think maybe in this instance
we should have eased into it a little. Osama is still on the loose and I
think he is a greater threat. But maybe there's more to this than can be
seen from were we sit?

Brian




Diverd4777 February 3rd 04 02:46 AM

Agree;
You can't have a " CNN War" & get anything done...


In article , "Brian Hill"
brianehill@charterDOTnet writes:


I will say this. It was easier running a war and getting approval before the
modern media got involved. I'm sure if CNN and the others were around in
WWII Patton would have been apologizing ten times as much :)

Brian




RHF February 3rd 04 05:27 AM

N8KDV,

"We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the
international community when the vital interests of our
country are at stake."

here, Here. HERE !

What was it last week one of the Democrat Candidates was
Explaining the he was not simply running for the 'presidency
of the usofa': But for "The LEADER of the Free World" [.]
That WE the USoA have to be Mindful of Our Role as the World's
Only Remaining Super-Power and be a Good Citizen of the World.

Sorry but to my little mind: I Want Someone Who Is First and
Formost Runing for the Office of President of the USofA. And Who
Clearly Understands the very simple fact that 'The American People'
have Elected Him to be "The President of the USofA" and to
Take Care of America's Interest First [.]


ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts.
..
..
= = = N8KDV
= = = wrote in message ...
Brian Hill wrote:

"Multithreaded" wrote in message
...
As I said, you are not making sense.


Allright?

I'll answer your question anyway.
No, I don't think every person in the world thinks well of current
American foreign policy, myself included. How on earth you can blame
us is beyond my comprehension.


No one blamed you. I just said I don't think anyone likes use from what I
hear. And for your information I don't entirly agree with our foreign policy
either.

I would hope that - to keep at least a
small amount of relevence to this NG - your HF listening habits would
open up your mind at least slightly, but I guess the constant pounding
of the domestic media in your country must more than offset this.
Pity.


Well I would hope that you'd allow me a few more words before you lable me
narrow minded and I don't listen much to the domestic media.


And no, I do not consider myself in the least "anti-American." I
simply regret the current choice of administration.


I never ment to imply that you were anti American. I just think a lot of
people are mad right now but the world never the less will be better without
Sadam in power. I do think we should have had more aproval from the global
comunity. This Yank likes the UK. Spent a little time there once. Cheers

Brian


One must remember that jealousy engenders hatred.

We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the international community
when the vital interests of our country are at stake.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




Les & Claire February 3rd 04 06:38 AM

RHF wrote:
N8KDV,

"We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the
international community when the vital interests of our
country are at stake."

here, Here. HERE !

What was it last week one of the Democrat Candidates was
Explaining the he was not simply running for the 'presidency
of the usofa': But for "The LEADER of the Free World" [.]
That WE the USoA have to be Mindful of Our Role as the World's
Only Remaining Super-Power and be a Good Citizen of the World.

Sorry but to my little mind: I Want Someone Who Is First and
Formost Runing for the Office of President of the USofA. And Who
Clearly Understands the very simple fact that 'The American People'
have Elected Him to be "The President of the USofA" and to
Take Care of America's Interest First [.]


.... You really are a very worrying country at the moment.

Les


ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts.
.
.
= = = N8KDV
= = = wrote in message ...
Brian Hill wrote:

"Multithreaded" wrote in message
...
As I said, you are not making sense.

Allright?

I'll answer your question anyway.
No, I don't think every person in the world thinks well of current
American foreign policy, myself included. How on earth you can
blame us is beyond my comprehension.

No one blamed you. I just said I don't think anyone likes use from
what I hear. And for your information I don't entirly agree with
our foreign policy either.

I would hope that - to keep at least a
small amount of relevence to this NG - your HF listening habits
would open up your mind at least slightly, but I guess the
constant pounding of the domestic media in your country must more
than offset this. Pity.

Well I would hope that you'd allow me a few more words before you
lable me narrow minded and I don't listen much to the domestic
media.


And no, I do not consider myself in the least "anti-American." I
simply regret the current choice of administration.

I never ment to imply that you were anti American. I just think a
lot of people are mad right now but the world never the less will
be better without Sadam in power. I do think we should have had
more aproval from the global comunity. This Yank likes the UK.
Spent a little time there once. Cheers

Brian


One must remember that jealousy engenders hatred.

We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the
international community when the vital interests of our country are
at stake.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm




Les & Claire February 3rd 04 07:46 AM

Telamon wrote:
The US is the worst of all religious & dictatorial oppressive
governments


Well that would indicate you are a real whack job.

Are you saying the US is not a christian fundamentalist country that is
closing down civil liberties as fast as it can whilst conducting a violent
empire building crusade?

Les



Multithreaded February 3rd 04 09:55 AM

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 16:35:55 -0600, "Brian Hill"
brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote:

I'll answer your question anyway.
No, I don't think every person in the world thinks well of current
American foreign policy, myself included. How on earth you can blame
us is beyond my comprehension.


No one blamed you. I just said I don't think anyone likes use from what I
hear. And for your information I don't entirly agree with our foreign policy
either.


I appreciate that.

I would hope that - to keep at least a
small amount of relevence to this NG - your HF listening habits would
open up your mind at least slightly, but I guess the constant pounding
of the domestic media in your country must more than offset this.
Pity.


Well I would hope that you'd allow me a few more words before you lable me
narrow minded and I don't listen much to the domestic media.


I wasn't trying to label you at all. I did, however, get a certain
impression from you. I see I was wrong. Glad to hear that about the
domestic media.

And no, I do not consider myself in the least "anti-American." I
simply regret the current choice of administration.


I never ment to imply that you were anti American. I just think a lot of
people are mad right now but the world never the less will be better without
Sadam in power. I do think we should have had more aproval from the global
comunity. This Yank likes the UK. Spent a little time there once. Cheers


Approval has to be earned. It so sorely isn't at the moment by the
current administration. I'm glad you like the UK; believe me, it is
warmly appreciated. If ever you were to come again to Blighty, you
could be sure of a warm welcome in this household (genuine offer,
heh).

Brian


Thanks for the reply, Brian.

G4LWQ


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Telamon February 3rd 04 11:20 PM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

snip

Are you saying the US is not a christian fundamentalist country that is
closing down civil liberties as fast as it can whilst conducting a violent
empire building crusade?


Are you saying that it is?

Not only are you a complete nut job but you also cannot quote properly.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon February 3rd 04 11:25 PM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

snip

Are you saying the US is not a christian fundamentalist country that is
closing down civil liberties as fast as it can whilst conducting a violent
empire building crusade?


You forgot to use the word white as part of your pejorative. So then;
"Are you saying the US is not a white Christian fundamentalist country"

Doesn't that sound better?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Les & Claire February 4th 04 08:14 AM

Telamon wrote:

You forgot to use the word white as part of your pejorative. So then;
"Are you saying the US is not a white Christian fundamentalist
country"

Doesn't that sound better?


I wasn't quoting, it is my view in my words. Also, "White" is your word,
not mine. In the US a saddeningly large proportion of all races seem to
suffer from the gross lack of judgement, intelligence and free thought that
sums up christianity.

Les


In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

snip

Are you saying the US is not a christian fundamentalist country that
is closing down civil liberties as fast as it can whilst conducting
a violent empire building crusade?


You forgot to use the word white as part of your pejorative. So then;
"Are you saying the US is not a white Christian fundamentalist
country"

Doesn't that sound better?




Joe Ringer February 4th 04 06:36 PM

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:59:05 +0100, Stephan Grossklass wrote:
Atlas schrieb:

Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person?


So you'll know when to dig up your MRE's and gold and hit the road.


--
clear skies,
Joe
GS800M ~ S/N: S8304027607
YB400PE ~ S/N: 615254
http://users.erols.com/jringer3/astro1.htm

RHF February 4th 04 09:36 PM

les, Les. LES.

A TRUE STORY:
As My Daddy used to tell me.
"Son You May Not Love Me
You May Not Respect Me
But, You Will Damm Well - Fear Me [.]

As I Grew Up and Matured In-Life . . .
I Learn to Love and Respect My Old Man
Thank You God for Giving Me a
Good Strong Father - amen, Amen. and AMEN !
{ Les - My Daddy was Part German }


YOUR REPLY:
".... You really are a very worrying country at the moment."

So as far as most Americans are concerned.
You (The World) may not Love the USoA.
You (The World) may not Respect the USoA.
But, You (The World) can Damm Well Fear the USoA.

TBL: Les - Keeping Worrying - Your Worry is Good for America.

First an Foremost is the Importance of Every American
to be Safe and Secure in Our HomeLand the USofA [.]

! "9/11" NEVER AGAIN !

Proud To Say: "I Am An American !" {No Apologies Required.)


Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF
[Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch]
..
..
= = = "Les & Claire"
= = = wrote in message ...
RHF wrote:
N8KDV,

"We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the
international community when the vital interests of our
country are at stake."

here, Here. HERE !

What was it last week one of the Democrat Candidates was
Explaining the he was not simply running for the 'presidency
of the usofa': But for "The LEADER of the Free World" [.]
That WE the USoA have to be Mindful of Our Role as the World's
Only Remaining Super-Power and be a Good Citizen of the World.

Sorry but to my little mind: I Want Someone Who Is First and
Formost Runing for the Office of President of the USofA. And Who
Clearly Understands the very simple fact that 'The American People'
have Elected Him to be "The President of the USofA" and to
Take Care of America's Interest First [.]


.... You really are a very worrying country at the moment.

Les


ssi... ~ RHF
= = = So Say I... My Opinions Stated As Facts.
.
.
= = = N8KDV
= = = wrote in message ...
Brian Hill wrote:

"Multithreaded" wrote in message
...
As I said, you are not making sense.

Allright?

I'll answer your question anyway.
No, I don't think every person in the world thinks well of current
American foreign policy, myself included. How on earth you can
blame us is beyond my comprehension.

No one blamed you. I just said I don't think anyone likes use from
what I hear. And for your information I don't entirly agree with
our foreign policy either.

I would hope that - to keep at least a
small amount of relevence to this NG - your HF listening habits
would open up your mind at least slightly, but I guess the
constant pounding of the domestic media in your country must more
than offset this. Pity.

Well I would hope that you'd allow me a few more words before you
lable me narrow minded and I don't listen much to the domestic
media.


And no, I do not consider myself in the least "anti-American." I
simply regret the current choice of administration.

I never ment to imply that you were anti American. I just think a
lot of people are mad right now but the world never the less will
be better without Sadam in power. I do think we should have had
more aproval from the global comunity. This Yank likes the UK.
Spent a little time there once. Cheers

Brian

One must remember that jealousy engenders hatred.

We don't need, nor should we seek, 'approval', from the
international community when the vital interests of our country are
at stake.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B
"I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" ©

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm


Les & Claire February 4th 04 09:54 PM

RHF wrote:
les, Les. LES.
A TRUE STORY:

As My Daddy used to tell me.
"Son You May Not Love Me
You May Not Respect Me
But, You Will Damm Well - Fear Me [.]


Snip speech that would be more at home in Germany circa 1939

You see? A worrying country with a dangerous mindset. You make my point
convincingly Sir. Also, I'm thankful that fear was not part of my, or my
childrens, relationship with their Father.

Les



Dave Holford February 5th 04 02:32 AM



Leonard Martin wrote:

Way to go Pharmanaut!! I, a denizen of the USA, elected not to replace my
broken tv 4 years ago because of all the phenomena you just summed up. Our
media operate on the assumption that we Americans are all greedy
subliterate couch potatos haunted by futile sports fantasies and convinced
our fat asses were ordained by God to sit on, and **** on, the rest of the
world.

Yours truly,
Leonard



I have to go along with that. Although a number of BBC programs have
been copied by the U.S. networks they always seem to be dumbed down,
even the ones that were dumb to start with. My favourite is the BBC "Is
it Buoyant?" which on CBS has become "Will it Float?". I guess 'they'
figured that buoyant was too difficult a word for North Americans to
understand.

Dave

Telamon February 5th 04 03:08 AM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

Telamon wrote:

You forgot to use the word white as part of your pejorative. So then;
"Are you saying the US is not a white Christian fundamentalist
country"

Doesn't that sound better?


I wasn't quoting, it is my view in my words. Also, "White" is your word,
not mine. In the US a saddeningly large proportion of all races seem to
suffer from the gross lack of judgement, intelligence and free thought that
sums up christianity.

Just making sure you didn't leave something out.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

WShoots1 February 5th 04 05:34 AM

Unless a loop-topped black Hum Vee rolls down the street in front of your pad,
listening for your radio's local oscillator, shortwave listening is about as
anonymous as anything can be.

Bill, K5BY

Les & Claire February 5th 04 09:17 AM

Leonard Martin wrote:
Way to go Pharmanaut!! I, a denizen of the USA, elected not to
replace my broken tv 4 years ago because of all the phenomena you
just summed up. Our media operate on the assumption that we Americans
are all greedy subliterate couch potatos haunted by futile sports
fantasies and convinced our fat asses were ordained by God to sit on,
and **** on, the rest of the world.

Yours truly,
Leonard


Thanks Leonard,
you show there's some life in the USA yet.
Nice to see....

Les ( Pharmanaut )



In article , "Pharmanaut"
wrote:

Joe Strain wrote:
SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist
broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily
broadcast agenda



Well, you guys tried and all you came up with was CNN and Fox.. All
I can say about the colonial output is that it is sycophantic gung
ho ****e. Isolationist, "In Bush we Trust", head in the sand,
sub-literate, intolerant, christian fundamentalist, coming home in
bodybags, conformist, NRA driven, bigoted, with a "Word from our
Sponsors", Roger ****ing Ramjet, jock brained neanderthals in
uniform, tabloid crap.

Yet you all seem to swallow it... open your eyes... your being
taken for idiots.

Pharm....

Yodar



"N8KDV" wrote in message
...


Atlas wrote:

Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person?

Shortwave has no practical use for the 'average' person. We
shortwave enthusiasts are 'above average' people, therefore the
'average' person should avoid us like the plague, or Howard Dean,
whichever you think poses the greatest threat to your health.

Steve
Holland, MI
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Les & Claire February 5th 04 11:12 AM

Telamon wrote:

I am considering forwarding this to the authorities.


Erm... don't you mean "your" authorities? What happened to free speech in
the colonies? Are you doing away with that too? You show it to anyone
who'll read it my friend, be my guest. My country for one upholds the values
of free speech... old bushy boy may have problems whith you lot speaking
out. But over here it's considered a right. Even without a written
constitution. heh heh.....

Les



Telamon February 6th 04 04:50 AM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

Telamon wrote:

I am considering forwarding this to the authorities.


Erm... don't you mean "your" authorities? What happened to free speech in
the colonies? Are you doing away with that too? You show it to anyone
who'll read it my friend, be my guest. My country for one upholds the values
of free speech... old bushy boy may have problems whith you lot speaking
out. But over here it's considered a right. Even without a written
constitution. heh heh.....


Yes, I do mean my authorities, which can then inform yours.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Les & Claire February 6th 04 07:43 AM

Telamon wrote:


Yes, I do mean my authorities, which can then inform yours.


...... and can you tell me what laws have been broken here? Having an
opinion that differs from old bushy boy isn't illegal as far as i'm aware.
At least, not in the UK anyway. Your the funiest colonial i've come accross
in many a year! :o)

Les



Telamon February 6th 04 07:49 AM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Yes, I do mean my authorities, which can then inform yours.


...... and can you tell me what laws have been broken here? Having an
opinion that differs from old bushy boy isn't illegal as far as i'm aware.
At least, not in the UK anyway. Your the funiest colonial i've come accross
in many a year! :o)


You have broken no laws or rules but at the same time shown that someone
needs to keep an eye on you.

Ever been psychologically evaluated?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Les & Claire February 6th 04 11:02 PM

Don Forsling wrote:

Considering forwarding this to the authorities??? That's simply
hilarious. I suggest that YOU get back on your meds. Valium might
help a little, but probably shouldn't be used long-term. A
psychiatrist can advise you. Weekly visits to a counselor will do
wonders for you, too. Best of luck for a fairly speedy recovery.
Remember, there's no shame connected with mental illness. So don't
hesitate to get the help you so obviously need.


About my thoughts too...
Erm... Telemon, just a thought. Are you a creationist?

Les



Telamon February 7th 04 05:02 AM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

Don Forsling wrote:

Considering forwarding this to the authorities??? That's simply
hilarious. I suggest that YOU get back on your meds. Valium might
help a little, but probably shouldn't be used long-term. A
psychiatrist can advise you. Weekly visits to a counselor will do
wonders for you, too. Best of luck for a fairly speedy recovery.
Remember, there's no shame connected with mental illness. So don't
hesitate to get the help you so obviously need.


I have had counseling and I have been evaluated Don. The counseling and
evaluations were part of a curriculum. Never been on ³Meds² and I do not
do drugs so no thanks for the Valium. How about yourself? You sound like
you have great familiarity with ³Meds² and Valium.

You would have to be a real whack job yourself if you think what Les
wrote is OK.

About my thoughts too...
Erm... Telemon, just a thought. Are you a creationist?


Blow all the conspiracy theories you have in one rant? Is the political
discussion boring you already?

I do not know why you would ask anyone a question of this type because
with your imagination you could assign to me whatever answer you desire.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Les & Claire February 7th 04 11:34 AM

Telamon wrote:
Erm... Telemon, just a thought. Are you a creationist?


Blow all the conspiracy theories you have in one rant? Is the
political discussion boring you already?

I do not know why you would ask anyone a question of this type because
with your imagination you could assign to me whatever answer you
desire.



Well? Are you?

Les



Telamon February 7th 04 07:54 PM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

Telamon wrote:
Erm... Telemon, just a thought. Are you a creationist?


Blow all the conspiracy theories you have in one rant? Is the
political discussion boring you already?

I do not know why you would ask anyone a question of this type because
with your imagination you could assign to me whatever answer you
desire.



Well? Are you?


Answer my question first then I will answer yours.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Les & Claire February 7th 04 09:27 PM



And the question was?


Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

Telamon wrote:
Erm... Telemon, just a thought. Are you a creationist?

Blow all the conspiracy theories you have in one rant? Is the
political discussion boring you already?

I do not know why you would ask anyone a question of this type
because with your imagination you could assign to me whatever
answer you desire.



Well? Are you?


Answer my question first then I will answer yours.




Telamon February 8th 04 06:38 AM

In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

And the question was?


Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"Les & Claire" wrote:

Telamon wrote:
Erm... Telemon, just a thought. Are you a creationist?

Blow all the conspiracy theories you have in one rant? Is the
political discussion boring you already?

I do not know why you would ask anyone a question of this type
because with your imagination you could assign to me whatever
answer you desire.


Well? Are you?


Answer my question first then I will answer yours.


Apparently not important or you would remember.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California


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