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Why SW?
Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person?
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Atlas wrote: Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Shortwave has no practical use for the 'average' person. We shortwave enthusiasts are 'above average' people, therefore the 'average' person should avoid us like the plague, or Howard Dean, whichever you think poses the greatest threat to your health. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
In article , Atlas writes:
Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? - ANd Who Said We're Average...? ;-) - Now, back to your Clear Channel with you ! ! |
SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters
like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Yodar "N8KDV" wrote in message ... Atlas wrote: Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Shortwave has no practical use for the 'average' person. We shortwave enthusiasts are 'above average' people, therefore the 'average' person should avoid us like the plague, or Howard Dean, whichever you think poses the greatest threat to your health. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
ROTFL!
Darn it, you're right! Great post. -- Stinger "Joe Strain" wrote in message ... SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Yodar "N8KDV" wrote in message ... Atlas wrote: Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Shortwave has no practical use for the 'average' person. We shortwave enthusiasts are 'above average' people, therefore the 'average' person should avoid us like the plague, or Howard Dean, whichever you think poses the greatest threat to your health. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
"Joe Strain" wrote in message ... SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Yodar I can't hardly start the day without a good dose of slander. By the way have we been slandered in any unique ways yet this morning? -- 73 and good DXing RX: R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28 Ant: 100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/ |
"Joe Strain" wrote in message ... SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Yodar Give an example (if you can)! Mike (British and now upset, we consider Americans our best friends) |
Atlas wrote...
Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Basically I listen for these reasons... To get a different persepective on news... yes, N8KDV is right... much of what I hear is socialist spin and anti-American. Radio Havana comes to mind :-) To hear music and information programs from different cultures. Radio Bulgaria plays incredible music. India, Japan and the middle eastern countries too... and even Radio Havana has great music programs. To catch a pirate broadcast on occasion. Illegal transmissions comprised of sometimes very innovative programming and satire. And sometimes just sophomoric drivel. To hunt for faint signals and eventually identify them... I'd guess this is much the same thrill birdwatchers get when they see a bird they've never seen before. To me it's fun and exhilarating. |
"Sanjaya" wrote... To get a different persepective on news... yes, N8KDV is right... much of what I hear is socialist spin and anti-American. Radio Havana comes to mind :-) My apologies to Yodar. He was the one who mentioned "socialist broadcasters". |
Agree..
Radio Moscow also has good Jazz from time to time; I skip Cuban news; Heard one, you've heard them all.. Like Radio Canada , often good music & commentary about Life in the cold north. But the BBC " Insight on Africa" is facinating ( To Me) AND the Music shows on WBCQ on weekends are usually great Dan In article . net, "Sanjaya" writes: es are they for the average person? Basically I listen for these reasons... To get a different persepective on news... yes, N8KDV is right... much of what I hear is socialist spin and anti-American. Radio Havana comes to mind :-) To hear music and information programs from different cultures. Radio Bulgaria plays incredible music. India, Japan and the middle eastern countries too... and even Radio Havana has great music programs. To catch a pirate broadcast on occasion. Illegal transmissions comprised of sometimes very innovative programming and satire. And sometimes just sophomoric drivel. To hunt for faint signals and eventually identify them... I'd guess this is much the same thrill birdwatchers get when they see a bird they've never seen before. To me it's fun and exhilarating. |
Mike Terry wrote: (British and now upset, we consider Americans our best friends) Thank you Mike, that's the nicest comment I have read in this group in some time. Stop by for a spot of tea. Pappy |
A lot of Americans prefer their news media to be lapdogs for
whatever political party they favor. Criticism, analysis and balance are interpreted as either "socialist slander" by those on the right or evidence of a "right-wing conspiracy" by those on the left, or what passes for the left here in the US. Mike Terry wrote: "Joe Strain" wrote in message ... SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Yodar Give an example (if you can)! Mike (British and now upset, we consider Americans our best friends) |
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:16:31 GMT, "Joe Strain"
wrote: SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Yodar My God, are you a typical citizen of your country? I certainly hope not, for the world's sake. G4LWQ -- Please use Reply-To address. |
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:48:15 GMT, "Sanjaya"
wrote: Atlas wrote... Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Basically I listen for these reasons... To get a different persepective on news... yes, N8KDV is right... much of what I hear is socialist spin and anti-American. Radio Havana comes to mind :-) To hear music and information programs from different cultures. Radio Bulgaria plays incredible music. India, Japan and the middle eastern countries too... and even Radio Havana has great music programs. To catch a pirate broadcast on occasion. Illegal transmissions comprised of sometimes very innovative programming and satire. And sometimes just sophomoric drivel. To hunt for faint signals and eventually identify them... I'd guess this is much the same thrill birdwatchers get when they see a bird they've never seen before. To me it's fun and exhilarating. Thanks! |
"Multithreaded" wrote in message My God, are you a typical citizen of your country? I certainly hope not, for the world's sake. G4LWQ Are you saying that the whole world loves us? I don't hear it when I turn on the radio. |
Sanjaya wrote: Atlas wrote... Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Basically I listen for these reasons... To get a different persepective on news... yes, N8KDV is right... much of what I hear is socialist spin and anti-American. Radio Havana comes to mind :-) To hear music and information programs from different cultures. Radio Bulgaria plays incredible music. India, Japan and the middle eastern countries too... and even Radio Havana has great music programs. To catch a pirate broadcast on occasion. Illegal transmissions comprised of sometimes very innovative programming and satire. And sometimes just sophomoric drivel. To hunt for faint signals and eventually identify them... I'd guess this is much the same thrill birdwatchers get when they see a bird they've never seen before. To me it's fun and exhilarating. Sanjaya's last reason is 90% of it to me - that in combination with my addicton to the 60 and 49 meter bands, as I love any form of Latin music, and the breezy, "non-glossy" broadcast styles of most of those stations. The fact that they're among the most difficult to hear and idnetify clearly just adds to the fun. Tony ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
The anonomous "Atlas" wrote: Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Depends where this "average person" lives. For those in places where news sources are unreliable or untrustworthy, shortwave provides access to a broad array or news sources and various points of view on issues. Actually, that feature of SW can be a benefit to anyone. Secondly, some of us think it's fun to listen to broadcasts from the far corners of the world. If you trust your local news sources, aren't interested in hearing different (sometimes offbeat) perspectives, don't get a kick out of technical gadgets, etc., then SW probably isn't for you. Art Harris N2AH |
Same reason as Why TV, AM/FM Radio and for that matter the internet ?
As Lao-Tse sed in 500 BC "One May Know Of The Whole World Without Leaving The Shelter Of Their Own Home" But like all things -- let the listener beware -- 73- Cambio - Keyboard To You ----------------------------------- " The anonomous "Atlas" wrote: Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? |
Atlas wrote:
Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? What use is a baking stone for the average person? Or a crochet hook? Thinking in terms of "the average person" turns you into a marketing type with no connection to reality. The "average person" doesn't exist; the term is just an imaginary construct created to justify statistics and MBAs. Sorry, sometimes I just have to take questions completely literally. Or maybe I just like to rant a bit. :) Real answer: I like SW radio because it allows me to listen outside of my locality and get some different viewpoints. There's also a treasure hunting aspect to it, just cruising the dial wondering what I'll find next. -- Reply address munged. You can figure it out. |
It's the only way to get 2, 3 , 4 or more sides to a story without bias
(except towards the country making the broadcast of course). Atlas wrote in message ... Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? |
"Very good response" maybe - but why the political comment which readers
such as myself outside the US are unlikely to understand (although I have access to Fox News here in the UK, many don't). I could comment on UK politics in return but would prefer to talk radio here. 73s Mike |
Hey Steve ! !
HOOWWARRRRRDDD DEEEAANNNNN . . . BROUUUUUAHHHAHHHHAHHHAHH ! ! !! ( Gets better milage than a friggin Bicycle ..) ;-) In article , (Pete) writes: Shortwave has no practical use for the 'average' person. We shortwave enthusiasts are 'above average' people, therefore the 'average' person should avoid us like the plague, or Howard Dean, whichever you think poses the greatest threat to your health. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © |
Atlas schrieb:
Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? SWLing is an interesting hobby and can be good for quite some fun - isn't that enough? When I got my first SWL rig at the age of 15, I found it fascinating to be able to listen to stations from all over the globe. And even now with the 'net being a part of my all-day life, I find that the shortwave radio landscape is quite different from the places on the web I usually visit. Also, on the web you can't just tune through the bands and see what comes in. In addition to that, digging a signal out of the mud is simply more thrilling than getting the same in boring near-perfect quality. (Which doesn't mean I don't listen to local FM stations - this makes a nice contrast.) And last but not least, for the more technically minded (e.g. me :) the inner workings of shortwave receivers are also interesting. I've learned a lot about radios in the last few years, and most likely this will continue. Who knows, maybe I'll construct my own dream rig one day (but meanwhile there's still a LOT to learn)... Stephan -- Meine Andere Seite: http://stephan.win31.de/ PC#6: i440BX, 2xCel300A, 512 MiB, 18+80 GB, ATI AGP 32 MiB, 110W This is a SCSI-inside, Legacy-plus, TCPA-free computer :) Reply to newsgroup only. | See home page for working e-mail address. |
Mike Terry wrote: "Very good response" maybe - but why the political comment which readers such as myself outside the US are unlikely to understand (although I have access to Fox News here in the UK, many don't). I could comment on UK politics in return but would prefer to talk radio here. I'll be sure to forward all me posts to you from now on for UK clearance before I post them. ;-0 Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
Just think if XM radio offers SW, who would need a SW radio! ~kinda scary
spd |
Joe Strain wrote:
SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Well, you guys tried and all you came up with was CNN and Fox.. All I can say about the colonial output is that it is sycophantic gung ho ****e. Isolationist, "In Bush we Trust", head in the sand, sub-literate, intolerant, christian fundamentalist, coming home in bodybags, conformist, NRA driven, bigoted, with a "Word from our Sponsors", Roger ****ing Ramjet, jock brained neanderthals in uniform, tabloid crap. Yet you all seem to swallow it... open your eyes... your being taken for idiots. Pharm.... Yodar "N8KDV" wrote in message ... Atlas wrote: Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Shortwave has no practical use for the 'average' person. We shortwave enthusiasts are 'above average' people, therefore the 'average' person should avoid us like the plague, or Howard Dean, whichever you think poses the greatest threat to your health. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
N8KDV wrote: Mike Terry wrote: "Very good response" maybe - but why the political comment which readers such as myself outside the US are unlikely to understand (although I have access to Fox News here in the UK, many don't). I could comment on UK politics in return but would prefer to talk radio here. I'll be sure to forward all me posts to you from now on for UK clearance before I post them. ;-0 Here's an idea! In the subject line one might preface material that may not be fully understood in the UK with (NCFUK), Not Cleared For UK. That way, those in the UK might choose not to read those posts as there may be something contained therein that they may not understand. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
N8KDV wrote: N8KDV wrote: Mike Terry wrote: "Very good response" maybe - but why the political comment which readers such as myself outside the US are unlikely to understand (although I have access to Fox News here in the UK, many don't). I could comment on UK politics in return but would prefer to talk radio here. I'll be sure to forward all me posts to you from now on for UK clearance before I post them. ;-0 Here's an idea! In the subject line one might preface material that may not be fully understood in the UK with (NCFUK), Not Cleared For UK. That way, those in the UK might choose not to read those posts as there may be something contained therein that they may not understand. On second thought that may not work either as ALL posts would have to have NCFUK in the subject line. Oh well, I'll have to think on this some more! Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
"N8KDV" wrote in message N8KDV wrote: Here's an idea! In the subject line one might preface material that may not be fully understood in the UK with (NCFUK), Not Cleared For UK. That way, those in the UK might choose not to read those posts as there may be something contained therein that they may not understand. Sounds resonable. -- 73 and good DXing RX: R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28 Ant: 100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/ |
Diverd4777 wrote: Hey Steve ! ! HOOWWARRRRRDDD DEEEAANNNNN . . . BROUUUUUAHHHAHHHHAHHHAHH ! ! !! ( Gets better milage than a friggin Bicycle ..) ;-) I'm wondering where all of Howard's money went! It was commented on this morning that he went into Iowa with $40 million, spent something like $5 million there, and then spent around $10 million in New Hampshire, now he seems to be down to $5 million. ?? In article , (Pete) writes: Shortwave has no practical use for the 'average' person. We shortwave enthusiasts are 'above average' people, therefore the 'average' person should avoid us like the plague, or Howard Dean, whichever you think poses the greatest threat to your health. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B "I swear by, not at, Drake receivers" © |
To get a point of view from all over the world. That you can't get anywhere
elce. Bill, N5NOB |
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Atlas wrote in message ... Why use a SW radio? What uses are they for the average person? Do you own a boat? Do you have something to keep it from drifting? |
Mike:
Don't listen to him. US BBC listeners are at an all time high. Many of trust that source over the ones we have here. -- Brian Denley http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html "Mike Terry" wrote in message ... "Joe Strain" wrote in message ... SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda Yodar Give an example (if you can)! Mike (British and now upset, we consider Americans our best friends) |
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"Brian Denley" wrote in message news:16%Sb.201644$na.333691@attbi_s04... Mike: Don't listen to him. US BBC listeners are at an all time high. Many of trust that source over the ones we have here. Wouldn't the BBC's -much- wider relatively recent distribution through numerous FM/public radio outlets account for the increase in listenership here? It seems to make sense that, if you make something regularly available to a significant enough number of people, a certain percentage are going to find it their liking, esp. on public radio. |
Are you saying that the whole world loves us? I don't hear it when I turn on
the radio. That is a non sequitur. What is the relevance of that statement to my post? -- Please use Reply-To address. |
"Multithreaded" That is a non sequitur. What is the relevance of that statement to my Joe said: SWL is a hobby for masochists who enjoy listening to socialist broadcasters like the BBC slander our country as part of their daily broadcast agenda You replied: My God, are you a typical citizen of your country? I certainly hope not, for the world's sake. And I said: Are you saying that the whole world loves us? I don't hear it when I turn on the radio. Unless I'm missing part of the thread in my reader? It does make sense. So I ask you again. Do you think the people of the UK and the world in a whole hold us in a favorable light? I thank you for your reply. -- 73 and good DXing RX: R-5000, SP-600 JX-6, SX-28 Ant: 100' longwire, Evesdropper Dipole Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianehill/ |
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 06:44:00 -0600, "Brian Hill"
brianehill@charterDOTnet wrote: Do you think the people of the UK and the world in a whole hold us in a favorable light? Nice sentence. If they did - they don't now. Muhahhahhhaha... what a sentence... |
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