MW DXer wrote:

Better enjoy this part of the hobby while you can. Once that f***ing IBOC s**t
starts to be used you won't be able to DX anything anymore.

Stupid. It won't fix anything and will completely destroy one of the most
reliable modes of communication ever used.

RIP AM

IBOC and BPL. What fun!

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

I emailed WOR's CE a year or so ago, and his opinion
was that it was basically worthless junk. I've listened to
some of the stations testing IBOC, and have to agree
with the fellow who coined the phrase "IBAC," for
"In - band, adjacent channel."

Since navaids are going the way of the dodo, I think the
FCC should open 300 Khz in the longwave band, and
let the Digital Dummies have their own happy splatter -
fest.

I think it'll die a natural death, though. Who wants to spend
$500 for a receiver so they can hear Glenn Beck or Phil
Hendrie (two of my favorites) in crisp, cell - phone - like
audio quality? Not me.

My thinking is that IBOC will go in the same box as stereo
and quadrature AM.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN



"MW DXer" wrote in message
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| Better enjoy this part of the hobby while you can. Once that f***ing IBOC
s**t
| starts to be used you won't be able to DX anything anymore.
|
| Stupid. It won't fix anything and will completely destroy one of the most
| reliable modes of communication ever used.
|
| RIP AM


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"N8KDV" wrote

| IBOC and BPL. What fun!

Rochester, Minnesota (70 miles away from me in
the Southeastern 'burbs of the Twin Cities) has just
opened a BPL "experiment." I'm contemplating
a trip down there with the old Frog - 7 and a tape
recorder, just to have a listen for myself. Hopefully,
NTIA and FEMA will, along with the radio hobbyist
community, send this thing to the grave.

If I'm able to record some QRM, I'm going to note the
frequencies and severity, turn it into MP3s, and make
the MP3s available to anyone with an interest.

If BPL gets the green light, HF receivers' noise figures
will be absolutely meaningless, and DX will be gone for good.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN


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"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote:

"N8KDV" wrote

| IBOC and BPL. What fun!

Rochester, Minnesota (70 miles away from me in
the Southeastern 'burbs of the Twin Cities) has just
opened a BPL "experiment." I'm contemplating
a trip down there with the old Frog - 7 and a tape
recorder, just to have a listen for myself. Hopefully,
NTIA and FEMA will, along with the radio hobbyist
community, send this thing to the grave.

If I'm able to record some QRM, I'm going to note the
frequencies and severity, turn it into MP3s, and make
the MP3s available to anyone with an interest.

If BPL gets the green light, HF receivers' noise figures
will be absolutely meaningless, and DX will be gone for good.

Keep us posted, I for one would like to hear what the interference might
sound like.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

DS,

Better some Mexican-Latino AM Stations with local 'original' content:
Then 60 USofA AM Stations all carrying Art Bell / George Noore
"Coast-to-Coast-AM" all night long.

jm2cw ~ RHF
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= = = Doug Smith W9WI
= = = wrote in message ...
Craig (WB6LZV) wrote:
I got started in BCB DX in the late 1960's as a pre-teen and it continues to
be a favorite. But I absolutely agree with RadioGuy in that the Mexican
stations are trashing up the band. What's also changed over the years,
making station identification more difficult, is the syndication of talk
shows. You just don't find much local content when tuning the band to use
as an aid in ID'ing a station. Don't know if anybody else has noticed that
over the last decade or so.

I rather appreciate Mexican stations. (I probably DX FM more than I do
AM) They tend to have clear and frequent IDs, which is far more than
you can say for most U.S. (and especially Canadian!) stations. Sure,
you do have to take the effort to learn a bit of Spanish but at least on
FM I've found it well worthwhile.

They also seem much better (on average) at selling local advertising
with which you can identify a station.

The big problem on AM is that they're shuffling frequencies like crazy
down there; a printed Mexican AM station guide may not be of much value
for long...

"Stephen M.H. Lawrence" wrote in message
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I think it'll die a natural death, though. Who wants to spend
$500 for a receiver so they can hear Glenn Beck or Phil
Hendrie (two of my favorites) in crisp, cell - phone - like
audio quality? Not me.

My thinking is that IBOC will go in the same box as stereo
and quadrature AM.

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN


Most radio stations aren't near their fidelity limits now, and I don't
see what the promise of IBOC has to offer.

The comparision with AM stereo is interesting. 20 years ago, many
stations were quick to get on the AM stereo bandwagon, and heavily
promoted their new signal. AM stereo works pretty well, and there were
radios in the shops to buy. It just never caught on with the public.

Frank Dresser

I recall that AM stereo had transmitting antenna phase shift problems. Or
something like that.