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Revolution in Haiti?
I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of
Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) |
I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He
was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) "tommyknocker" wrote in message ... I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) |
Tommyknocker, here ia a link to a news story I found about the strife in
Haiti: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...t_040207190708 "tommyknocker" wrote in message ... I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) |
tommyknocker wrote: I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. There used to be some shortwave out of Haiti, but no more. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
So who is Tommyknocker listening to ? I did a search for frequencies on
Google and found 11.835 but no time listed. I can't say as I have seen anything in Passport, come to think of it. "N8KDV" wrote in message ... tommyknocker wrote: I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. There used to be some shortwave out of Haiti, but no more. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
Maximus wrote: So who is Tommyknocker listening to ? I did a search for frequencies on Google and found 11.835 but no time listed. I can't say as I have seen anything in Passport, come to think of it. It wasn't Haiti. Not on for some time as I recall, can't remember exactly when though. "N8KDV" wrote in message ... tommyknocker wrote: I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. There used to be some shortwave out of Haiti, but no more. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
N8KDV wrote:
Maximus wrote: So who is Tommyknocker listening to ? I did a search for frequencies on Google and found 11.835 but no time listed. I can't say as I have seen anything in Passport, come to think of it. It wasn't Haiti. Not on for some time as I recall, can't remember exactly when though. Just my regular sources, Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain's only English broadcast to North America is on 6055 khz at 0000. As for RN, I usually listen to their 0400 broadcast on 9590 or 6165, although I find that 6165 has a fair amount of interference at 0400. 0400 will be too late for you if you live east of the Rockies, so try the 0100 bc which I think is on 6165. Spain tends to have more news about the Americas because of colonial ties. My next question was going to be whether Haiti has a SW station. I might try Radio Havana, they're probably closest. "N8KDV" wrote in message ... tommyknocker wrote: I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. There used to be some shortwave out of Haiti, but no more. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
Maximus wrote:
I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. "tommyknocker" wrote in message ... I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) |
tommyknocker wrote: Maximus wrote: I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. You might wish to try BBC 15190 in the mornings, they carry a lot of Caribbean news around 1200 or so, perhaps earlier. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
N8KDV wrote:
tommyknocker wrote: I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. I once heard that St. Dominigue (the island comprising Haiti and the Dominican Republic) was France's richest colony until the slaves rebelled. Napoleon tried to retake it but his army was wiped out by yellow fever and retreated to the eastern half of the island, which was eventually handed off to Spain which is why they speak Spanish in the Dominican Republic and French (well, Creole) in Haiti. I say that if L'Overture hadn't been captured that Haiti would be in much better shape today. From what I've read, the guy was a genius, the equivalent of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. There used to be some shortwave out of Haiti, but no more. I'll try Radio Havana, they're probably as close as you can get on SW. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
tommyknocker wrote: Maximus wrote: I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. "tommyknocker" wrote in message ... I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) At least in 2002 Radio 4VEH still had a shortwave license, but no equipment, they were concentrating on MW and FM. Still haven't found out when they went off SW yet though. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
N8KDV wrote: tommyknocker wrote: Maximus wrote: I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. "tommyknocker" wrote in message ... I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) At least in 2002 Radio 4VEH still had a shortwave license, but no equipment, they were concentrating on MW and FM. Still haven't found out when they went off SW yet though. I just looked and saw I QSL'd Radio 4VEH almost 22 years ago... That's starting to seem like a very,very long time ago. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
In article , N8KDV
writes: That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. I had an interview on Thursday with someone originally from Hati; He says its a pretty sorry place right now.. |
Diverd4777 wrote: In article , N8KDV writes: That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. I had an interview on Thursday with someone originally from Hati; He says its a pretty sorry place right now.. Utter sadness when I think about it. The other side of the island (Hispaniola) in the Dominican Republic is much much better. The contrast was astonishing. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
tommyknocker wrote: N8KDV wrote: N8KDV wrote: tommyknocker wrote: Maximus wrote: I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. "tommyknocker" wrote in message ... I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) At least in 2002 Radio 4VEH still had a shortwave license, but no equipment, they were concentrating on MW and FM. Still haven't found out when they went off SW yet though. I just looked and saw I QSL'd Radio 4VEH almost 22 years ago... That's starting to seem like a very,very long time ago. I'm 29 years old. (You didn't want to know that, did you? :) ) No problem! We all start somewhere. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
N8KDV wrote:
tommyknocker wrote: Maximus wrote: I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. You might wish to try BBC 15190 in the mornings, they carry a lot of Caribbean news around 1200 or so, perhaps earlier. 1200 is the middle of the night here in California, 4 am local time I think. So that won't do any good. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
tommyknocker wrote: N8KDV wrote: tommyknocker wrote: Maximus wrote: I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. You might wish to try BBC 15190 in the mornings, they carry a lot of Caribbean news around 1200 or so, perhaps earlier. 1200 is the middle of the night here in California, 4 am local time I think. So that won't do any good. Yeah, probably not, no propagation. You might want to check the BBC's site for their Caribbean service to see what might be available to you at some later time. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B |
N8KDV wrote:
N8KDV wrote: tommyknocker wrote: Maximus wrote: I remember something in online news about unrest there about Aristide. He was bad news from the beginning and our government was involved in making sure he got to power. We may regret that if these guys are leftists. Haiti is one of the most miserable and poorest places on earth, so they are ripe for any change that looks promising. We keep turning back people trying to get to the USA on rafts etc. Aristide is a Marxist. I do remember hearing years ago about a coup in Haiti and how US troops reseated Aristide by force, something we're gonna regret when he's overthrown since we don't have any troops to spare to calm the place down. Could you please post the UTC time and frequency ? I'd like to try to listen myself . Thanks :) My usual sources are Radio Exterior de Espana and Radio Netherlands. Spain usually has more news about the Americas. They are on at 0000 on 6055-their only English tx to NAm. RN's website is rnw.nl, so look there for freqs and times. "REE" was referring to Spain. "tommyknocker" wrote in message ... I heard last night (on SW) that rebels have "captured" the city of Gonaives, Haiti's fourth largest (and the place where Haiti's independence was declared 200 years ago). REE said that the rebels were close to taking control of Cap Haitien (sp?), Haiti's second largest city, as well. It looks like Aristide is going down. Has anybody heard anything more today? (I haven't been near my radio yet today.) At least in 2002 Radio 4VEH still had a shortwave license, but no equipment, they were concentrating on MW and FM. Still haven't found out when they went off SW yet though. I just looked and saw I QSL'd Radio 4VEH almost 22 years ago... That's starting to seem like a very,very long time ago. I'm 29 years old. (You didn't want to know that, did you? :) ) Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
N8KDV wrote:
Diverd4777 wrote: In article , N8KDV writes: That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. I had an interview on Thursday with someone originally from Hati; He says its a pretty sorry place right now.. Utter sadness when I think about it. The other side of the island (Hispaniola) in the Dominican Republic is much much better. The contrast was astonishing. I posted a rant under this thread on why that is. Basically, it's because the slaves were only able to hold onto half the island; the French recaptured the other half. It always seemed to me that once the slaves rebelled and threw off their white masters, they didn't want to toil the land that they had so recently been tied to. An understandable impulse-slaves on Hispaniola under the French were treated much worse than slaves in the US ever were-but one that led to inescapable wretchedness. The same thing is happening in Zimbabwe where Mugabe's goons ran the whites off the land-the people who got the land didn't want to work it, so the last I heard food shortages are getting progressively worse. |
tommyknocker wrote: N8KDV wrote: Diverd4777 wrote: In article , N8KDV writes: That place was a total mess when I was in Port-au-Prince in the '70's. Absolute poverty. I doubt if it's ever gotten better. I had an interview on Thursday with someone originally from Hati; He says its a pretty sorry place right now.. Utter sadness when I think about it. The other side of the island (Hispaniola) in the Dominican Republic is much much better. The contrast was astonishing. I posted a rant under this thread on why that is. Basically, it's because the slaves were only able to hold onto half the island; the French recaptured the other half. It always seemed to me that once the slaves rebelled and threw off their white masters, they didn't want to toil the land that they had so recently been tied to. An understandable impulse-slaves on Hispaniola under the French were treated much worse than slaves in the US ever were-but one that led to inescapable wretchedness. The same thing is happening in Zimbabwe where Mugabe's goons ran the whites off the land-the people who got the land didn't want to work it, so the last I heard food shortages are getting progressively worse. Heard the same here about Zimbabwe, but even if Mugabe gets ousted, I doubt if things will change very quickly, the die has been cast, and those who once worked the land have fled. It will be difficult to lure them back, and to attract investment into the country. That has been the legacy of the whole of Africa for some time. Steve Holland, MI Drake R7, R8 and R8B http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm |
I sure miss 4VEH "The Evangical Voice of Haiti". I used to get it on
shortwave as well as medium wave from my childhood home in Chicago. Surprisingly, they're still on the air on AM and FM in Haiti! Has anyone been able to receive them on 840 kHz? |
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tommyknocker wrote in message ...
... which is why they speak Spanish in the Dominican Republic and French (well, Creole) in Haiti. Voice of America broadcasts to the Caribbean in Creole, from 4:00 p.m EST to 5:30 p.m. EST, on 9670 kHz. Comes in loud and clear here in Virginia. 4 p.m EST is 2100 UTC. |
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