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Love2camp5 February 28th 04 09:09 PM

Received my new radio yesterday (long)
 
First of all, thanks for the advice I have received here and the answers to my
questions. You treated a newcomer very nicely.

I received my Sangean ATS818ACS Thursday. First thought out of the box was "IT
IS HUGE!" Of course, that was comparing it to my Grundig Yacht Boy 400.
Actually it is just slightly larger than our CCRadio, and not as bulky.

The box showed the black radio (yuck!) but it was indeed the metallic colored
one instead (yippee!) That is the color I preferred. (probably a girl thing!)

The hum on MW that I had on the YB is not present on the Sangean. The actual
reception on MW is slightly better on the Sangean, but the sound is so much
nicer and far more volume. I can work around the house and hear the radio just
fine; I guess a portable was just not for me.

The shortwave reception is much, much better than the YB. I have listened to
Radio China International, Radio Sweden, the BBC, and Radio Canada Intl. both
mornings - and with the YB I couldn't get any stations in well enough to
listen in the morning hours. ALso with the YB, no matter how strong the
station sounded, there was always that nice "sshhh" sound over top of the
signal. These strong SW stations come in crystal clear on the Sangean.

No success with SSB yet, I will have to fiddle with that and figure out how to
tune them in.

I am also getting FM stations like crazy. I am very pleased with the radio.

The cassette tape part of the unit works very well. The light stays on for
several seconds when you push the button; apparently no way to keep the light
turned on.

Since there is no "DX" or "Local" switch, does the "RF Gain" knob accomplish
the same thing?

The radio has such a long whip antenna that is hit the ceiling in my kitchen
with the radio on the counter. I can either not extend it entirely, or tilt it
a little.

Anyway, I am pleased. Yesterday morning I heard "Life in China" for the first
time. Interesting.

Now the Yacht Boy will be sold.

Thanks again,
Linda
Pennsylvania



Sanjaya February 28th 04 09:31 PM


"Love2camp5" wrote...
First of all, thanks for the advice I have received here and the answers to my
questions. You treated a newcomer very nicely.

I received my Sangean ATS818ACS Thursday.

[happy camper post snipped]

Congrats on the new radio.
May you have many wonderful
hours of listening : )



Gray Shockley February 28th 04 10:19 PM

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:09:01 -0600, Love2camp5 wrote
(in message ):

The box showed the black radio (yuck!) but it was indeed the metallic colored
one instead (yippee!) That is the color I preferred. (probably a girl
thing!)



Naw; it's the "new style". Imo, it looks better and, also, it doesn't show up
dust so badly (I clean the radios [grin]).


The hum on MW that I had on the YB is not present on the Sangean. The actual
reception on MW is slightly better on the Sangean, but the sound is so much
nicer and far more volume. I can work around the house and hear the radio
just fine; I guess a portable was just not for me.

The shortwave reception is much, much better than the YB. I have listened to
Radio China International, Radio Sweden, the BBC, and Radio Canada Intl. both
mornings - and with the YB I couldn't get any stations in well enough to
listen in the morning hours. ALso with the YB, no matter how strong the
station sounded, there was always that nice "sshhh" sound over top of the
signal. These strong SW stations come in crystal clear on the Sangean.

No success with SSB yet, I will have to fiddle with that and figure out how
to tune them in.


Turn the BFO pot to the center position, turn on the BFO switch (located
right above the pot) and, then, use the pot as a "fine tuning" knob.

If it's more elusive than usual, use the tuning knob to peak the signal.
Another thing to try is the "AM Wide/Narrow" switch.



I am also getting FM stations like crazy. I am very pleased with the radio.

The cassette tape part of the unit works very well. The light stays on for
several seconds when you push the button; apparently no way to keep the light
turned on.

Since there is no "DX" or "Local" switch, does the "RF Gain" knob accomplish
the same thing?

The radio has such a long whip antenna that is hit the ceiling in my kitchen
with the radio on the counter. I can either not extend it entirely, or tilt
it a little.



http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/misc/0022.html

The number "0022" stand.


/gray/



Maximus February 28th 04 11:06 PM

I don't have that receiver but am wishing I did s.
For sideband, I use Upper Sideband mostly, and turn down the gain for really
strong signals, as that makes it easier to clarify the sideband signal. Some
amateurs use AM, and some use Lower sideband. Most everyone else use upper
sideband - dunno why.

I am glad you have something that actually has good sound. That makes it all
worthwhile. My DX 394 does not have good sound S. I run the sound to some
stereo speakers I salvaged from a boombox that quit working - the speakers
still work fine.

If you ever get teh "antenna itch" be careful about plugging the antenna
lead into the receiver as that can be fragile.

You might want to get Passport to Worldband Radio, Popular Communications
magazine or Monitoring Times magazine to help identify stations you hear.

Lastly, ENJOY !!! Please let us know what you are finding.

Strength and Honor


"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
.com...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:09:01 -0600, Love2camp5 wrote
(in message ):

The box showed the black radio (yuck!) but it was indeed the metallic

colored
one instead (yippee!) That is the color I preferred. (probably a girl
thing!)



Naw; it's the "new style". Imo, it looks better and, also, it doesn't show

up
dust so badly (I clean the radios [grin]).


The hum on MW that I had on the YB is not present on the Sangean. The

actual
reception on MW is slightly better on the Sangean, but the sound is so

much
nicer and far more volume. I can work around the house and hear the

radio
just fine; I guess a portable was just not for me.

The shortwave reception is much, much better than the YB. I have

listened to
Radio China International, Radio Sweden, the BBC, and Radio Canada Intl.

both
mornings - and with the YB I couldn't get any stations in well enough

to
listen in the morning hours. ALso with the YB, no matter how strong the
station sounded, there was always that nice "sshhh" sound over top of

the
signal. These strong SW stations come in crystal clear on the Sangean.

No success with SSB yet, I will have to fiddle with that and figure out

how
to tune them in.


Turn the BFO pot to the center position, turn on the BFO switch (located
right above the pot) and, then, use the pot as a "fine tuning" knob.

If it's more elusive than usual, use the tuning knob to peak the signal.
Another thing to try is the "AM Wide/Narrow" switch.



I am also getting FM stations like crazy. I am very pleased with the

radio.

The cassette tape part of the unit works very well. The light stays on

for
several seconds when you push the button; apparently no way to keep the

light
turned on.

Since there is no "DX" or "Local" switch, does the "RF Gain" knob

accomplish
the same thing?

The radio has such a long whip antenna that is hit the ceiling in my

kitchen
with the radio on the counter. I can either not extend it entirely, or

tilt
it a little.



http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/misc/0022.html

The number "0022" stand.


/gray/





Telamon February 28th 04 11:27 PM

In article .net,
"Maximus" wrote:

I don't have that receiver but am wishing I did s.
For sideband, I use Upper Sideband mostly, and turn down the gain for really
strong signals, as that makes it easier to clarify the sideband signal. Some
amateurs use AM, and some use Lower sideband. Most everyone else use upper
sideband - dunno why.


I usually hear USB above 10 MHz and LSB below 10 MHz. It's a non-formal
ham rule.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Stinger February 28th 04 11:38 PM

Thanks for that insight, Telamon.

I read in the manual for one of my radios that "advanced" hams tend to use
USB, but having listened to some of them, I doubted that theory.

Yours makes much more sense.

-- Stinger

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
"Maximus" wrote:

I don't have that receiver but am wishing I did s.
For sideband, I use Upper Sideband mostly, and turn down the gain for

really
strong signals, as that makes it easier to clarify the sideband signal.

Some
amateurs use AM, and some use Lower sideband. Most everyone else use

upper
sideband - dunno why.


I usually hear USB above 10 MHz and LSB below 10 MHz. It's a non-formal
ham rule.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California




Frank Dresser February 29th 04 03:38 AM


"Stinger" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for that insight, Telamon.

I read in the manual for one of my radios that "advanced" hams tend to

use
USB, but having listened to some of them, I doubted that theory.

Yours makes much more sense

-- Stinger


It goes back to the first generation SSB transmitters which often
generated SSB around 9 Mc. Heterodyning the frequency lower inverts the
frequencies, which turned the USB at 9 Mc to LSB at 7 or 3 Mc.
Heterodyning up doesn't change the frequency relationship, and USB
remains USB.

Frank Dresser



Gray Shockley February 29th 04 06:17 AM

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:06:01 -0600, Maximus wrote
(in message .net):

I don't have that receiver but am wishing I did s.


I may have one of the old black ones for trade or sell soon.As I've
chronicled lately, my new apartment - basically - doesn't allow shortwave
reception (wipes tears from face).

However, though I don't smoke in the radio/computer room, plenty of smoke
(cigarette that is) certainly drifts in from the other rooms.

I'm prolly gonna get rid of the DX-392 or the DX-398, a Grove SP-200, a
Select-A-Tenna and a RS Loop.

For sideband, I use Upper Sideband mostly, and turn down the gain for really
strong signals, as that makes it easier to clarify the sideband signal. Some
amateurs use AM, and some use Lower sideband. Most everyone else use upper
sideband - dunno why.

I am glad you have something that actually has good sound. That makes it all
worthwhile. My DX 394 does not have good sound S. I run the sound to some
stereo speakers I salvaged from a boombox that quit working - the speakers
still work fine.

If you ever get teh "antenna itch" be careful about plugging the antenna
lead into the receiver as that can be fragile.

You might want to get Passport to Worldband Radio, Popular Communications
magazine or Monitoring Times magazine to help identify stations you hear.

Lastly, ENJOY !!! Please let us know what you are finding.

Strength and Honor


Retirement and war stories,



Gray Shockley
----------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio+ w/RS Loop
Justice AM Antenna
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
---------------------
Vicksburg, MS US







"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
.com...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:09:01 -0600, Love2camp5 wrote
(in message ):

The box showed the black radio (yuck!) but it was indeed the metallic

colored
one instead (yippee!) That is the color I preferred. (probably a girl
thing!)



Naw; it's the "new style". Imo, it looks better and, also, it doesn't show

up
dust so badly (I clean the radios [grin]).


The hum on MW that I had on the YB is not present on the Sangean. The

actual
reception on MW is slightly better on the Sangean, but the sound is so

much
nicer and far more volume. I can work around the house and hear the

radio
just fine; I guess a portable was just not for me.

The shortwave reception is much, much better than the YB. I have

listened to
Radio China International, Radio Sweden, the BBC, and Radio Canada Intl.

both
mornings - and with the YB I couldn't get any stations in well enough

to
listen in the morning hours. ALso with the YB, no matter how strong the
station sounded, there was always that nice "sshhh" sound over top of

the
signal. These strong SW stations come in crystal clear on the Sangean.

No success with SSB yet, I will have to fiddle with that and figure out

how
to tune them in.


Turn the BFO pot to the center position, turn on the BFO switch (located
right above the pot) and, then, use the pot as a "fine tuning" knob.

If it's more elusive than usual, use the tuning knob to peak the signal.
Another thing to try is the "AM Wide/Narrow" switch.



I am also getting FM stations like crazy. I am very pleased with the

radio.

The cassette tape part of the unit works very well. The light stays on

for
several seconds when you push the button; apparently no way to keep the

light
turned on.

Since there is no "DX" or "Local" switch, does the "RF Gain" knob

accomplish
the same thing?

The radio has such a long whip antenna that is hit the ceiling in my

kitchen
with the radio on the counter. I can either not extend it entirely, or

tilt
it a little.



http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/misc/0022.html

The number "0022" stand.


/gray/







tom Holden February 29th 04 02:20 PM

"Maximus" wrote
I am glad you have something that actually has good sound. That makes it all
worthwhile. My DX 394 does not have good sound S. I run the sound to some
stereo speakers I salvaged from a boombox that quit working - the speakers
still work fine.

If you are handy with a soldering iron (or have a friend who is), you
can make major improvements in the sound quality of the DX-394 with
the following mods found at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RADIOSHACKDX394/ :
1. AGC mod for slower release speed - really cleans up distortion on
AM stations with heavy bass modulation
2. Mod to defeat the Automatic Noise Limiter - ANL is permanently in
circuit and distorts on heavy amplitude modulation (90 - 95%
modulation)
3. Extended bass mod - increases size of output coupling capacitor for
better bass response.

There are around 50 other mods described on the site -plenty to keep
you busy and rewarded with a small investment in parts. ;-)

73, Tom

Stinger February 29th 04 02:40 PM

Gray,

As a final effort, it might be worthwhile to try that "phone line as
antenna" solution various people have been kicking around, or a "slinky"
that you only deploy across your apartment when you're listening to radio.

-- Stinger

"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
.com...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 17:06:01 -0600, Maximus wrote
(in message .net):

I don't have that receiver but am wishing I did s.


I may have one of the old black ones for trade or sell soon.As I've
chronicled lately, my new apartment - basically - doesn't allow shortwave
reception (wipes tears from face).

However, though I don't smoke in the radio/computer room, plenty of smoke
(cigarette that is) certainly drifts in from the other rooms.

I'm prolly gonna get rid of the DX-392 or the DX-398, a Grove SP-200, a
Select-A-Tenna and a RS Loop.

For sideband, I use Upper Sideband mostly, and turn down the gain for

really
strong signals, as that makes it easier to clarify the sideband signal.

Some
amateurs use AM, and some use Lower sideband. Most everyone else use

upper
sideband - dunno why.

I am glad you have something that actually has good sound. That makes it

all
worthwhile. My DX 394 does not have good sound S. I run the sound to

some
stereo speakers I salvaged from a boombox that quit working - the

speakers
still work fine.

If you ever get teh "antenna itch" be careful about plugging the antenna
lead into the receiver as that can be fragile.

You might want to get Passport to Worldband Radio, Popular

Communications
magazine or Monitoring Times magazine to help identify stations you

hear.

Lastly, ENJOY !!! Please let us know what you are finding.

Strength and Honor


Retirement and war stories,



Gray Shockley
----------------
DX-392 DX-398
RX-320 DX-399
CCradio+ w/RS Loop
Justice AM Antenna
Torus Tuner (3-13 MHz)
Select-A-Tenna
---------------------
Vicksburg, MS US







"Gray Shockley" wrote in message
.com...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 15:09:01 -0600, Love2camp5 wrote
(in message ):

The box showed the black radio (yuck!) but it was indeed the metallic

colored
one instead (yippee!) That is the color I preferred. (probably a

girl
thing!)



Naw; it's the "new style". Imo, it looks better and, also, it doesn't

show
up
dust so badly (I clean the radios [grin]).


The hum on MW that I had on the YB is not present on the Sangean. The

actual
reception on MW is slightly better on the Sangean, but the sound is so

much
nicer and far more volume. I can work around the house and hear the

radio
just fine; I guess a portable was just not for me.

The shortwave reception is much, much better than the YB. I have

listened to
Radio China International, Radio Sweden, the BBC, and Radio Canada

Intl.
both
mornings - and with the YB I couldn't get any stations in well enough

to
listen in the morning hours. ALso with the YB, no matter how strong

the
station sounded, there was always that nice "sshhh" sound over top of

the
signal. These strong SW stations come in crystal clear on the

Sangean.

No success with SSB yet, I will have to fiddle with that and figure

out
how
to tune them in.


Turn the BFO pot to the center position, turn on the BFO switch

(located
right above the pot) and, then, use the pot as a "fine tuning" knob.

If it's more elusive than usual, use the tuning knob to peak the

signal.
Another thing to try is the "AM Wide/Narrow" switch.



I am also getting FM stations like crazy. I am very pleased with the

radio.

The cassette tape part of the unit works very well. The light stays

on
for
several seconds when you push the button; apparently no way to keep

the
light
turned on.

Since there is no "DX" or "Local" switch, does the "RF Gain" knob

accomplish
the same thing?

The radio has such a long whip antenna that is hit the ceiling in my

kitchen
with the radio on the counter. I can either not extend it entirely,

or
tilt
it a little.


http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/misc/0022.html

The number "0022" stand.


/gray/









Telamon February 29th 04 08:22 PM

In article ,
"Stinger" wrote:

Gray,

As a final effort, it might be worthwhile to try that "phone line as
antenna" solution various people have been kicking around, or a "slinky"
that you only deploy across your apartment when you're listening to radio.

snip

I wish that McFarland guy would stop posting that phone line antenna
every month. It is a very bad idea to use even the inactive wires
because the inductance between the inactive and active wires is great
enough to couple a voltage pulse that occures when the phone rings that
can destroy the front end of a portable radio. The voltage pulse varies
according to region but is usually in the 100-volt range. The filter
circuit he outlines to protect the radio effectively reduces the signals
you want and even you build it according to his instructions you can
still cause yourself a problem. You could get a nasty shock if you are
handling the wires when the phone rings. It is also illegal to connect
unapproved devices to the phone lines.

I strongly advise against connecting a radio to the phone line with or
without a filter.

Why take the chance. String up a wire in a room or outside.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Love2camp5 March 1st 04 02:37 PM

Naw; it's the "new style". Imo, it looks better and, also, it doesn't show up

dust so badly (I clean the radios [grin]).


True, in that the black looks like the electronic equipment I had years ago.

Turn the BFO pot to the center position, turn on the BFO switch (located
right above the pot) and, then, use the pot as a "fine tuning" knob.

If it's more elusive than usual, use the tuning knob to peak the signal.
Another thing to try is the "AM Wide/Narrow" switch.


Okay, I'll give it a try.

http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/misc/0022.html

The number "0022" stand.


/gray/


My radio has the foldout stand on the back to tilt the radio, and, well, the
antenna is still too long. Perhaps the ceilings in our house are extra low!

Linda

Love2camp5 March 1st 04 02:41 PM

Some of the posts on this thread are coming through with lines straight across
them - is this me or the person typing the post???

Linda

Diverd4777 March 1st 04 09:17 PM

I see them too; ( strikethrough )

-so it's probably the other posters..

In article ,
(Love2camp5) writes:


Some of the posts on this thread are coming through with lines straight
across
them - is this me or the person typing the post???

Linda





WShoots1 March 2nd 04 06:22 AM

I calibrated the BFO of my DX-392 by tuning in WWV with the BFO on and then
zero beating the BFO signal with WWV's. I then marked the spot on the BFO dial
to indicated zero, and referenced my CW and SSB/FAX offsets from that.

Bill, K5BY

Dxluver March 2nd 04 07:16 AM

Some of the posts on this thread are coming through with lines straight
across
them - is this me or the person typing the post???


I wondered the same thing Linda. I get that some time and have no idea why.
{?}

Love2camp5 March 2nd 04 03:06 PM

Some of the posts on this thread are coming through with lines straight
across
them - is this me or the person typing the post???


I wondered the same thing Linda. I get that some time and have no idea why.

{?}


Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing those lines. At first I thought it
was some way that posters were quoting old posts, but then, in trying to
actually read through the lines (no, not between the lines :-) I could tell
they were new posts.

Weird...
Linda

tom Holden March 3rd 04 01:39 AM

(Love2camp5) wrote in message ...
Some of the posts on this thread are coming through with lines straight
across
them - is this me or the person typing the post???


I wondered the same thing Linda. I get that some time and have no idea why.

{?}


Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing those lines. At first I thought it
was some way that posters were quoting old posts, but then, in trying to
actually read through the lines (no, not between the lines :-) I could tell
they were new posts.


I have seen the same thing, too - even my own postings at times. It
may have something to do with the message creation tool. This reply
has been composed in the Google Groups "Post a Message" form. Most of
the time, I post from the Outlook Express news reader. The reader also
can have a bearing - a pure text reader should wrap long lines to fit
the window. Reading messages via the Google Groups web pages could
have quite different results.

Tom

CW March 3rd 04 06:32 PM

That's the way I do it.

"WShoots1" wrote in message
...
I calibrated the BFO of my DX-392 by tuning in WWV with the BFO on and

then
zero beating the BFO signal with WWV's. I then marked the spot on the BFO

dial
to indicated zero, and referenced my CW and SSB/FAX offsets from that.

Bill, K5BY





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