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[email protected] February 29th 04 12:43 AM

Sangean ATS 505P Vs Kaito KA 1102
 
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .

Bruce Romero February 29th 04 03:31 AM

AP says it was a tanker that exploded with 27 people on board
wrote in message
m...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .




Bruce Romero February 29th 04 04:00 AM

sorry posted to wrong message
"Bruce Romero" wrote in message
news:92d0c.4708$PR3.68299@attbi_s03...
AP says it was a tanker that exploded with 27 people on board
wrote in message
m...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .






Gray Shockley February 29th 04 06:18 AM

On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:43:25 -0600, wrote
(in message ):

I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


If all else is equal, go with the Sangean.


Always.


/gray/



Sanjaya February 29th 04 09:28 AM

wrote...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


Your earlier posts show you are concerned about cost.
(example... the $20 difference between the DE1101 and DE1102)
So it's obvious here you should pick the DE1102, unless you
can get a Sangean ATS-505 for about $70 total cost.

Both radios are good for SW. The Sangean has better sound from
the speaker.



[email protected] February 29th 04 01:35 PM

Gray Shockley wrote in message s.com...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:43:25 -0600, wrote
(in message ):

I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


If all else is equal, go with the Sangean.


Always.


/gray/



1. Sangean technology is 5 years old .Are they both Dual conversion ?

2. Sensitivity

3. Selectivity

Is it possible to specify # 2 and # 3 in technical terms ?

Reviews are sometimes confusing , can someone who had tested both the
receivers thoroghly give me an unbiased opinion .

Cheers
Anil

Diverd4777 February 29th 04 01:41 PM

In article ,
writes:


I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


An external antenna is most important here..



[email protected] February 29th 04 04:03 PM

"Sanjaya" wrote in message link.net...
wrote...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


Your earlier posts show you are concerned about cost.
(example... the $20 difference between the DE1101 and DE1102)
So it's obvious here you should pick the DE1102, unless you
can get a Sangean ATS-505 for about $70 total cost.

Both radios are good for SW. The Sangean has better sound from
the speaker.



I wasn't sure about the use of SSB in SW radio . Sangean
costs around $120 and not $ 70 . The difference between the KA 1102
and ATS 505
is only marginal , but how about technology wise , are they both same
?

The dual conversion of Sangean ATS - 505 is not claimed on
many reviews and that's the reason I am awaiting feedback from the
experienced
members like you who can advise a novice and a new entrant like me .

Your advise is of paramount importance .

Regards ,
Anil

Diverd4777 February 29th 04 04:24 PM

Anil:
Here are a few reviews;

http://www.rnw.nl/realradio/ats505.html

http://www.radiointel.com/review-degende1102.htm

- And heres another website, noting Sangean 505a

http://home.att.net/~monster-masher/radio.htm

It's a hard choice..

as a primary radio, with price as a consideration but wanting
(NNNN ) feature(s)

i'd go with the....

Dan

;-)


\In article ,
writes:

Subject: Sangean ATS 505P Vs Kaito KA 1102
From:

Date: 29 Feb 2004 08:03:05 -0800

"Sanjaya" wrote in message
hlink.net...
wrote...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


Your earlier posts show you are concerned about cost.
(example... the $20 difference between the DE1101 and DE1102)
So it's obvious here you should pick the DE1102, unless you
can get a Sangean ATS-505 for about $70 total cost.

Both radios are good for SW. The Sangean has better sound from
the speaker.



I wasn't sure about the use of SSB in SW radio . Sangean
costs around $120 and not $ 70 . The difference between the KA 1102
and ATS 505
is only marginal , but how about technology wise , are they both same
?

The dual conversion of Sangean ATS - 505 is not claimed on
many reviews and that's the reason I am awaiting feedback from the
experienced
members like you who can advise a novice and a new entrant like me .

Your advise is of paramount importance .

Regards ,
Anil







Sanjaya February 29th 04 05:38 PM


wrote in message m...
"Sanjaya" wrote in message

link.net...
wrote...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


Your earlier posts show you are concerned about cost.
(example... the $20 difference between the DE1101 and DE1102)
So it's obvious here you should pick the DE1102, unless you
can get a Sangean ATS-505 for about $70 total cost.

Both radios are good for SW. The Sangean has better sound from
the speaker.



I wasn't sure about the use of SSB in SW radio . Sangean
costs around $120 and not $ 70 . The difference between the KA 1102
and ATS 505
is only marginal , but how about technology wise , are they both same
?

The dual conversion of Sangean ATS - 505 is not claimed on
many reviews and that's the reason I am awaiting feedback from the
experienced
members like you who can advise a novice and a new entrant like me .

Your advise is of paramount importance .

Regards ,
Anil




AC Smith February 29th 04 09:03 PM

(Diverd4777) wrote in message ...
In article ,
writes:


I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


An external antenna is most important here..


I just ordered a Degen 1102 from eBay. For $49.50 + 19.00 shipping, I
receive a dual conversion, SSB capable SW radio with 190 memories. It
also comes with the rechargeable batteries that charge in the radio,
ear buds with bass booster and a reel out external antenna. At the
very least, it has an external antenna input.

And the trick thing about it is that its whole keypad lights up in a
deep blue color as well as the display for night DXing.

Do a search for the seller Liypn and you will find silver and black
models together. He replied within 15 minutes of me making the
purchase, told the day he is shipping and said that packages usually
come in 7 to 10 days, which has been corroborated with other buyers I
have read here in rec.radio.shortwave.

The radio is just over 5" long!

Good luck on your decision. My other radios are a Grundig Satellit
800 and a Grundig S-350.

acs

Diverd4777 February 29th 04 09:35 PM

Several people I know have gotten the 505A and been very impressed with it.

I currently have a Sangean 606a ( Take it everywhere)
along with a SONY AN-LP 1
A Icom R-75 ( & 100 foot random Wire )
and a Jwin JX - m13 ( $13.00)

So for the time being, Am set for small radios

Will see how the " Long Awaited" Sangean 636 shakes out, when it is shipped
or whatever;
And then theres the development of the New MW / SW receiver Pete's company
( Pete KE9OA )
is working on..

Dan




In article ,
(AC Smith) writes:

Subject: Sangean ATS 505P Vs Kaito KA 1102
From:
(AC Smith)
Date: 29 Feb 2004 13:03:33 -0800

(Diverd4777) wrote in message
...
In article ,
writes:


I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


An external antenna is most important here..


I just ordered a Degen 1102 from eBay. For $49.50 + 19.00 shipping, I
receive a dual conversion, SSB capable SW radio with 190 memories. It
also comes with the rechargeable batteries that charge in the radio,
ear buds with bass booster and a reel out external antenna. At the
very least, it has an external antenna input.

And the trick thing about it is that its whole keypad lights up in a
deep blue color as well as the display for night DXing.

Do a search for the seller Liypn and you will find silver and black
models together. He replied within 15 minutes of me making the
purchase, told the day he is shipping and said that packages usually
come in 7 to 10 days, which has been corroborated with other buyers I
have read here in rec.radio.shortwave.

The radio is just over 5" long!

Good luck on your decision. My other radios are a Grundig Satellit
800 and a Grundig S-350.

acs





DeWayne February 29th 04 09:47 PM


"AC Smith" wrote in message
om...
(Diverd4777) wrote in message

...
In article ,
writes:


I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


An external antenna is most important here..


I just ordered a Degen 1102 from eBay. For $49.50 + 19.00 shipping, I
receive a dual conversion, SSB capable SW radio with 190 memories. It
also comes with the rechargeable batteries that charge in the radio,
ear buds with bass booster and a reel out external antenna. At the
very least, it has an external antenna input.


Which color did you get? It's gotta be better than the ATS-505. I've owned
two of them and didn't like!
DeWayne


And the trick thing about it is that its whole keypad lights up in a
deep blue color as well as the display for night DXing.

Do a search for the seller Liypn and you will find silver and black
models together. He replied within 15 minutes of me making the
purchase, told the day he is shipping and said that packages usually
come in 7 to 10 days, which has been corroborated with other buyers I
have read here in rec.radio.shortwave.

The radio is just over 5" long!

Good luck on your decision. My other radios are a Grundig Satellit
800 and a Grundig S-350.

acs




Mike S. February 29th 04 09:50 PM


In article ,
Diverd4777 wrote:

In article ,
(AC Smith) writes:

Subject: Sangean ATS 505P Vs Kaito KA 1102
From: (AC Smith)
Date: 29 Feb 2004 13:03:33 -0800

(Diverd4777) wrote in message
...
In article ,
writes:


I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


An external antenna is most important here..


I just ordered a Degen 1102 from eBay. For $49.50 + 19.00 shipping, I
receive a dual conversion, SSB capable SW radio with 190 memories. It
also comes with the rechargeable batteries that charge in the radio,
ear buds with bass booster and a reel out external antenna. At the
very least, it has an external antenna input.

And the trick thing about it is that its whole keypad lights up in a
deep blue color as well as the display for night DXing.

Do a search for the seller Liypn and you will find silver and black
models together. He replied within 15 minutes of me making the
purchase, told the day he is shipping and said that packages usually
come in 7 to 10 days, which has been corroborated with other buyers I
have read here in rec.radio.shortwave.

The radio is just over 5" long!

Good luck on your decision. My other radios are a Grundig Satellit
800 and a Grundig S-350.

acs



Several people I know have gotten the 505A and been very impressed with it.


Too bad everyone started thinking of this only when the competition (cheap
Degen/Kaito portables) came out.

Last year at this time, Radio Shack was closing out the last of their own
brand shortwave sets. Their version of the ATS-505 was going for $49 if
you could find one.



Dan March 1st 04 01:44 PM

You can get the Sangean ATS-909 new for $199 from Amazon. Just spring
the extra bucks and get the ATS-909. It's the top of the line
portable
and it works really great.

Here's the Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...onics&n=507846

wrote in message om...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


AC Smith March 1st 04 07:09 PM

"DeWayne" wrote in message ...
"AC Smith" wrote in message
om...
(Diverd4777) wrote in message

...
In article ,
writes:


I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


An external antenna is most important here..


I just ordered a Degen 1102 from eBay. For $49.50 + 19.00 shipping, I
receive a dual conversion, SSB capable SW radio with 190 memories. It
also comes with the rechargeable batteries that charge in the radio,
ear buds with bass booster and a reel out external antenna. At the
very least, it has an external antenna input.


Which color did you get? It's gotta be better than the ATS-505. I've owned
two of them and didn't like!
DeWayne


DeWayne,

I went for the black color as my S-350 is silver, and I don't care for
it. The thing I like about
the black model of the 1102 is that it has silver buttons that will
stand out nicely against the
black - easier on my eyes!

I can hardly wait to get my package from the slow boat from China!

Adam

DeWayne March 1st 04 08:22 PM


"AC Smith" wrote in message
snip

Which color did you get? It's gotta be better than the ATS-505. I've

owned
two of them and didn't like!
DeWayne


DeWayne,

I went for the black color as my S-350 is silver, and I don't care for
it. The thing I like about
the black model of the 1102 is that it has silver buttons that will
stand out nicely against the
black - easier on my eyes!

I can hardly wait to get my package from the slow boat from China!


The pics on Ebay look very nice!
DeWayne


Adam




Sanjaya March 1st 04 09:20 PM

"Dan" wrote...
You can get the Sangean ATS-909 new for $199 from Amazon. Just spring
the extra bucks and get the ATS-909. It's the top of the line
portable
and it works really great.

Here's the Amazon link:


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...p_i1_xgl23/102
-4494931-8090527?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846

wrote in message om...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


I must have missed something somewhere.
When Anil first posted he was concerned about spending
$20 extra bucks difference between the Degen/Kaito 1101
and 1102.
Now he's going to consider buying a $200 ATS-909?????
Something's fishy here and it isn't the replies to all
the questions.



Diverd4777 March 2nd 04 12:04 AM

There was probably a lost post suggesting he buy a Watkins Johnson
but nevermind...

ANY shortwave receiver is better than None
$29 . 95/100,
- Analogue, single reduction, creaky when you tune it
Stuck together with candle wax.
- Hook enough antenna wire to it & your up & running,
picking up stuff from
the other side of the surface of the earth..

Just MHO
others will strongly disagree

Dan ( Icom R-75, Jwin Jx m-14, Sangrean 606A)





In article k.net, Sanjaya"
writes:


"Dan" wrote...
You can get the Sangean ATS-909 new for $199 from Amazon. Just spring
the extra bucks and get the ATS-909. It's the top of the line
portable
and it works really great.

Here's the Amazon link:



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...d=1078148264//

ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl23/102
-4494931-8090527?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846

wrote in message

. com...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


I must have missed something somewhere.
When Anil first posted he was concerned about spending
$20 extra bucks difference between the Degen/Kaito 1101
and 1102.
Now he's going to consider buying a $200 ATS-909?????
Something's fishy here and it isn't the replies to all
the questions.








[email protected] March 2nd 04 02:25 PM

(Diverd4777) wrote in message ...
There was probably a lost post suggesting he buy a Watkins Johnson
but nevermind...

ANY shortwave receiver is better than None
$29 . 95/100,
- Analogue, single reduction, creaky when you tune it
Stuck together with candle wax.
- Hook enough antenna wire to it & your up & running,
picking up stuff from
the other side of the surface of the earth..

Just MHO
others will strongly disagree

Dan ( Icom R-75, Jwin Jx m-14, Sangrean 606A)




This is the best advise , thanks Dan .

Anil





In article k.net, Sanjaya"
writes:


"Dan" wrote...
You can get the Sangean ATS-909 new for $199 from Amazon. Just spring
the extra bucks and get the ATS-909. It's the top of the line
portable
and it works really great.

Here's the Amazon link:



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...d=1078148264//
ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl23/102
-4494931-8090527?v=glance&s=electronics&n=507846

wrote in message

om...
I am in a fix which one of them is good choice between Sangean ATS 505
P / Kaito KA 1102 . My primary requirement is SW reception .

Anil .


I must have missed something somewhere.
When Anil first posted he was concerned about spending
$20 extra bucks difference between the Degen/Kaito 1101
and 1102.
Now he's going to consider buying a $200 ATS-909?????
Something's fishy here and it isn't the replies to all
the questions.






Diverd4777 March 2nd 04 10:40 PM

Anil
Glad you appreciate the advice...

- Just saw " Lost In Translation"

And am still resonant from its effects..

Dan


In article ,
writes:


(Diverd4777) wrote in message
...
There was probably a lost post suggesting he buy a Watkins Johnson
but nevermind...

ANY shortwave receiver is better than None
$29 . 95/100,
- Analogue, single reduction, creaky when you tune it
Stuck together with candle wax.
- Hook enough antenna wire to it & your up & running,
picking up stuff from
the other side of the surface of the earth..

Just MHO
others will strongly disagree

Dan ( Icom R-75, Jwin Jx m-14, Sangrean 606A)




This is the best advise , thanks Dan .

Anil




kamalakar pasupuleti March 3rd 04 07:14 PM

(Diverd4777) wrote in message ...
Anil
Glad you appreciate the advice...

- Just saw " Lost In Translation"

And am still resonant from its effects..

Dan




Antenna is as important as a radio - How true indeed !!
I connected 15 ft of wire to my Grundig FR - 200 and was able to get
India on 31 meter band without any fading . I probably need to buy a
reel antenna and be happy with it's performance .

GREAT advice DAN .

Kam

In article ,
writes:


(Diverd4777) wrote in message
...
There was probably a lost post suggesting he buy a Watkins Johnson
but nevermind...

ANY shortwave receiver is better than None
$29 . 95/100,
- Analogue, single reduction, creaky when you tune it
Stuck together with candle wax.
- Hook enough antenna wire to it & your up & running,
picking up stuff from
the other side of the surface of the earth..

Just MHO
others will strongly disagree

Dan ( Icom R-75, Jwin Jx m-14, Sangrean 606A)




This is the best advise , thanks Dan .

Anil



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