"Frank Dresser" wrote in message ...
"RHF" wrote in message
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Actually a 5% Ethanol / 95% Gasoline results in a 5% reduction
of imported foreign oil. This also results in a 5% reduction
in Petro-Dollars spent abroad and more Dollars spent internally
in the USofA.

Ethanol has about half the fuel value as gasoline. Gasahol, at least
around here, is 90% gasoline, 10% alcohol. If there's any merit to the
arguement that gasahol reduces imports by 5%, it's because 5% is half of
10%. Another way of saying the same thing is an efficent car will get
5% better gas mileage with gasoline as compared to gasahol.

Unfortunately, there's less to the oil import reduction than it seems.
Growing corn uses a considerable amount of fertilizer.

YES - American Made Fertilizer.

Fertilizer produced with oil, much of imported.

YES - But NOT from the Middle East (Arabs).

Cultivating it uses fuel.

YES - Cultivation is one more American Job.

Not to mention the fuel needed to transport the stuff,

YES - Transportation is many more Unionized "Teamsters" American Jobs.

ferment it and distill it.


YES - Fermentation and Distillation are one more American Job.

In the end, ethanol production justs transfers alot of fossil fuels
into a "renewable resource".

YES - An American 'Renewable Resource'.


YES it is a Farm Subsidy but it creates many more
"JOBS" between the Farm and the Pump.

How many jobs does ethanol production create?
Corn production is highly automated.

YES - Automated 'High Tech' American Jobs.

I ezpect the same is true of the distillers.

YES - Automated 'High Tech' American Jobs.

But, the ethanol subsidy needs to take less than four dollars
a year from every American to total over a billion dollars.
I'm sure we lose more than a billion dollars a year in
discretionary income every year to the ethanol subsidy.
I also have no doubt that redirecting a billion dollars into
the pockets of a few fat cats costs more jobs than it "creates".


YES - From my view point just the opposite is true.

IMHO: It is "Better"
to spend a few Foreign Aid Dollars here at Home.

Foriegn aid? Are you comparing the mega-farmers and
Archer-Daniels-Midland to a bunch of tinhorn dictators? Well, OK.


NO - Just that the 'spending' of our Tax Dollars should be done
at home when possible.


California (where I live) needs to start growing Corn for Fuel
(Ethanol) and Manufacturing Ethanol in-state for it's own internal
consumption.

Is California an efficent corn producer like Iowa or Illinois?

YES - It can be on the West Side of the San Joaquin Valley.
http://www.library.ca.gov/CRB/cvrank/

I thought fruits domininated California's agricultural production.
I suppose you could distill grapes and oranges into fuel if you spend
enough money. I suppose if it was an efficent use of resources,
somebody would be doing it profitably on their own now.

I do believe taking money from people for things they don't
want will almost certainly cost more jobs than it creates.

YES - But that could be said of ALL TAXES.


Why pay someone else for what you can do yourself ?

Because someone else can do it cheaper and better?

YES - But is Cheaper is not always better.

Because forcing people to spend money on ethanol means they
have less money to spend on take out pizza or new vacuum
cleaners or shortwave radios?

QUESTION - Isn't the Environment - The 'need to Save the Planet
(The Great Mother) more Important then such trivial consumer items.

Because I'm tired of transfering wealth to well connected fat cats?

BUT - That is the 'nature' of ALL TAXES.

Every Gallon of California Ethanol Fuels a New California Economy.

~ RHF

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I can't say ethanol didn't create work for me. I got to replace a few
fuel pumps and fix cars with carb trouble after Illinois decided to drop
the gas tax on gasohol and make it cheaper than gasoline.

But that's like saying the government ought to subsidize tire
slashing to create jobs in Akron.

NO - I do not advocate Violent Criminal Acts.
Please Note: You May Be TAXED TO DEATH . . .
But Taxes are Not in an of themselves violent criminal acts.


Frank Dresser

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