J999w wrote:


Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode (I could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has to cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

It shouldn't be that difficult. At least from an East Coast perspective in December
or January.

If Euro pirates running a couple hundred watts are audible here at times in that
frequency range prior to sunset, then at least from an East Coast vantage point
Greenland should, or could be audible.

I personally do not subscribe to the 'hops' theory. Ionospheric ducting and dumping
perhaps, but not hops.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

J999w wrote:

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

You might wish to try some modeling of the darkness path around that time in
Dec. and Jan. with this site:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/uncgi/Earth

I already have Greenland QSL'd on 3999 kHz when they were operating on that
frequency.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question.

LMBO.....I don't know about it being all that tough. I'll make a note of it
and see what I can hear. Not right (I don't think) but I'll make note of it
and if I hear something I'll post it here first.:-)

I know what you meant Steve. With you beverage or long wires you ought to give
it a shot.

Have any East Coasters (or anyone else for that matter) been able to
hear Greenland on 3815 USB during their scheduled time at 2125-2225?

I 'think' it's *gettable*......that's at 4:30pm EST here in Cincinnati,Ohio.
Right. {?}

I have a slew of receivers and antennas to throw at it.

***Nah, that'd be 4:25pm EST in Ohio to 5:25pm.***

Hey Steve,
That freq for Greenland isn't in the Passport. Did you get it from the ILG? I
have to print that list out definitely and put it in a ringed binder.

Dxluver wrote:

Hey Steve,
That freq for Greenland isn't in the Passport. Did you get it from the ILG? I
have to print that list out definitely and put it in a ringed binder.

I don't know if it's in ILG or not. It is on the EiBi site.

Dxluver wrote:

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question.

LMBO.....I don't know about it being all that tough. I'll make a note of it
and see what I can hear. Not right (I don't think) but I'll make note of it
and if I hear something I'll post it here first.:-)

I know what you meant Steve. With you beverage or long wires you ought to give
it a shot.

A bit late in the season here, but possible I suppose on the East Coast if indeed
they are on.

N8KDV wrote:

Have any East Coasters (or anyone else for that matter) been able to
hear Greenland on 3815 USB during their scheduled time at 2125-2225?

Just wondering if they are indeed on.

Per Glenn Hauser on World of Radio 1166 (January 22, 2003) the station
runs 100 watts.

Whether they are still on or not is up in the air!



Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

I don't know if it's in ILG or not. It is on the EiBi site.


I wrote down that site, I don't think I was familiar with it.