Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

J999w wrote:

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode (I could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has to cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

J999w wrote:


Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode (I could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has to cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

It shouldn't be that difficult. At least from an East Coast perspective in December
or January.

If Euro pirates running a couple hundred watts are audible here at times in that
frequency range prior to sunset, then at least from an East Coast vantage point
Greenland should, or could be audible.

I personally do not subscribe to the 'hops' theory. Ionospheric ducting and dumping
perhaps, but not hops.

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm

Down on 80 meters, the F layer would be the mode of propagation. I
wonder...................with Greenland being that far north. would it
propagate over the pole?

Pete

"J999w" wrote in message
...

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip
is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some
BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you
have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode (I
could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has to
cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

Pete KE9OA wrote:

Down on 80 meters, the F layer would be the mode of propagation. I
wonder...................with Greenland being that far north. would it
propagate over the pole?

Why would it have to propagate over the pole to reach the East Coast USA or even
Michigan for that matter?



Pete

"J999w" wrote in message
...

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E skip
is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got some
BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you
have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode (I
could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has to
cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

Why? Take a look at a globe, and you will see that the most direct path from
Greenland to the USA is over the pole.

Pete

"DxAce" wrote in message
...


Pete KE9OA wrote:

Down on 80 meters, the F layer would be the mode of propagation. I
wonder...................with Greenland being that far north. would it
propagate over the pole?

Why would it have to propagate over the pole to reach the East Coast USA
or even
Michigan for that matter?



Pete

"J999w" wrote in message
...

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E
skip
is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got
some
BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you
have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this
path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode
(I
could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has
to
cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

Pete KE9OA wrote:

Why? Take a look at a globe, and you will see that the most direct path from
Greenland to the USA is over the pole.

You are joking of course?



Pete

"DxAce" wrote in message
...


Pete KE9OA wrote:

Down on 80 meters, the F layer would be the mode of propagation. I
wonder...................with Greenland being that far north. would it
propagate over the pole?

Why would it have to propagate over the pole to reach the East Coast USA
or even
Michigan for that matter?



Pete

"J999w" wrote in message
...

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E
skip
is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got
some
BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you
have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this
path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode
(I
could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has
to
cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

Pete KE9OA wrote:

Why? Take a look at a globe, and you will see that the most direct path from
Greenland to the USA is over the pole.

Here is a link to a map I just made up which shows the great circle path from
the (supposed) transmitter site near Tasiilaq, Greenland (airport code AGM) and
Holland, MI (airport code HLM).

http://makeashorterlink.com/?G13726F97

Show me where the path crosses the pole?

Steve
Holland, MI
Drake R7, R8 and R8B

http://www.iserv.net/~n8kdv/dxpage.htm





Pete

"DxAce" wrote in message
...


Pete KE9OA wrote:

Down on 80 meters, the F layer would be the mode of propagation. I
wonder...................with Greenland being that far north. would it
propagate over the pole?

Why would it have to propagate over the pole to reach the East Coast USA
or even
Michigan for that matter?



Pete

"J999w" wrote in message
...

Isn't that around 2,000 miles? (East coast or MI). How many hops E
skip
is
that? Seems like a long shot at that time of day unless you've got
some
BIG
antennas on your side.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question...


Well, to cover 2,000 miles how many different propagation modes do you
have?
and what are the odds? E skip? F skip? What else is there for this
path???

I'd guess perhaps 2 hops for E skip would be the most prevalent mode
(I
could
be way off here). So what are the chances considering the time of day,
frequency (3.8mhz), transmitter power (?), high latitude the path has
to
cover,
and receiving equipment.

Just thinking out loud on this one.

jw
wb9uai

E skip? What darn propagation school did you guys go to?

Sheesh, I ask a simple question.

LMBO.....I don't know about it being all that tough. I'll make a note of it
and see what I can hear. Not right (I don't think) but I'll make note of it
and if I hear something I'll post it here first.:-)

I know what you meant Steve. With you beverage or long wires you ought to give
it a shot.