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Dxluver March 5th 04 11:04 AM

*FINALLY* problem solved at Radio Shack..........
 
Well, I've posted my dilema on what I've been looking for but never got an
answer, or at least one I could take in there so I decided today I WAS coming
out of any rat shack with what I needed.......if I had to go to five of them,
I was.

My two problems:
I needed an adapter or 'sleeve' to consistently keep plugged into my external
antenna jack on my DX398. You'd swear I was speaking another language. After
I spoke s-l-o-w-l-y- for the third time and still saw the constipated looks on
the two faces in there I told them....."guys, go on and take care of the other
customers, there was FIVE standing there with their new (I suppose) picture
cell phones and they were pressing in codes. {?} That's what it looked like.
Every now and then one of them would break away from the desk and go to an
aisle I was in like I was a potential thief or something.

I know a thief can be anyone, but I'm professional and clean cut and after the
FOURTH time of being watched 'kind words' from me were asked to them in the
form of "I'm not gonna rip you off, then preceded to reach in my pocket and
whip out a stack of bills, that got them to leave me alone (I think.) ;-)

But for anyone else that needs or wants to correct the problem I had, the cat#
(that I kept asking for in here to no avail BTW;-) ) is #4202472 for the
adapter or actually a 'sleeve' so you can plug and unplug your antenna without
wearing out your board.

The other problem was with my phones (head phones) my Optimus Pro 40 plugs
into an adapter and I was afraid (because it would have) put a strain on the
headphone chord from being bent at an angle all the time or would have strained
the board. So I found a 'stereo to stereo Right angle'.....so now I have that
new piece plugged in and the other adapter into it....followed by the
headphones plug itself plugged into that. No more strains on any of those
jacks or the board and now I can always unplug my external antenna (like
everyone should) without worrying if it'd be the last time before the jack
would loosen or the board would crack.

Both of them work beautifully and I'm a happy camper, and those workers are
ding dong heads. ;-)

Dxluver March 5th 04 11:17 AM

small mistake. Cat#42-2472A, it's a 6 ft. (smallest they had) shielded Audio
Extension Cable.

I neatly encircled the access cable and put a hit of electrical tape on it and
tucked it behind the radio and then plugged my sloper into that. Problem solved
(I hope.)

Maximus March 5th 04 03:55 PM

Radio Shack has a website and you can browse their catalogs in it. That may
save the time and humiliation of physically going in therer to shop with
those deliberately ignorant jackasses. I can't beleive they don't educate
their workers to comprehend a bit about what they sell the public. It is a
testement to the quality of their products though, when you have to rebuild
what you buy there in order to use it.


Strength and Honor

"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
small mistake. Cat#42-2472A, it's a 6 ft. (smallest they had) shielded

Audio
Extension Cable.

I neatly encircled the access cable and put a hit of electrical tape on it

and
tucked it behind the radio and then plugged my sloper into that. Problem

solved
(I hope.)




Corbin Ray March 5th 04 05:23 PM

I applied for a job as a fast-track manager at Radio Shack a year ago. My
credentials were out of this world. Besides my love for radio, I had a
Marketing/Business background, degree to match, and better Radio Shack
product knowledge than the managers I interviewed with.

Did I get the job? Of course not. All they want is a roboton who can
shamelessly upsell to an unsuspecting public, even when they don't need to
be upsold. Cell phones and satellite TV is all they're interesting in
selling. That's where the money is I guess, but sometimes people just don't
need those things. And sometimes people will be more loyal if you don't push
unnecessary products down their throats every time they come into your
store. So you can see why RS and I parted ways immediately.

By the way, a couple of weeks later, I got a MUCH better job with Verizon,
and every time I go by a Radio Shack store, I shudder to think I might have
been stuck in there selling my soul to the devil every day.



tommyknocker March 5th 04 05:25 PM

Maximus wrote:

Radio Shack has a website and you can browse their catalogs in it. That may
save the time and humiliation of physically going in therer to shop with
those deliberately ignorant jackasses. I can't beleive they don't educate
their workers to comprehend a bit about what they sell the public. It is a
testement to the quality of their products though, when you have to rebuild
what you buy there in order to use it.


I was looking for a shorter RG58 cable in RS a couple weeks ago because
my 20' was all wound up (not enough room) and it was causing QRM. At
least the worker knew what RG8 was and the RG58 was right next to that.
The weird thing was that the only 6' they had has one male end and one
female end. How do they expect me to plug it in? At least they had a
double male connector so I didn't have to worry about that.



Strength and Honor

"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
small mistake. Cat#42-2472A, it's a 6 ft. (smallest they had) shielded

Audio
Extension Cable.

I neatly encircled the access cable and put a hit of electrical tape on it

and
tucked it behind the radio and then plugged my sloper into that. Problem

solved
(I hope.)





donutbandit March 5th 04 05:33 PM

(Dxluver) wrote in
:

Well, I've posted my dilema on what I've been looking for but never
got an answer, or at least one I could take in there so I decided
today I WAS coming out of any rat shack with what I needed.......if I
had to go to five of them, I was.


Well, I should post my experience as a counter.

Walked into the local franchise. Manager immediately asked what I needed.

"2 audio plugs."

"Stereo or mono?"

"Mono."

"1/8th or 1/4?"

"1/4."

Directly to the parts bin we went, and I had the package in my hands in
less than 30 seconds.

"By the way, I also need an coax connector."

"What size of coax do you need it for."

"Uhhhhhh.... not for cable, but for the satellite dish kind."

"You mean RG-6, then?"

"Yes."

"Crimp type, or screw on?"

"Screw on would be nice."

Maybe this is an aberration, but it sure was nice to be able to buy
something without having to draw the person a diagram.




S March 5th 04 05:44 PM

you know what,, screw off, wow you found what you needed!!!!

i worked at the shack to pay my way through college for five years and hated
dealing with customers who couldnt find what they were looking for or even
knew what it was they were looking for. it is not our job to find a magic
piece for you. you apparenlty knew what you needed so why bother the
employees, just let them ring you up

hehe. although i would love to chat wth someone about SWl , etc, i know i
have to make money, so i might even give someone the cold shoulder to go
help a cell phone. hehe you could ask anyone i worked with, i did not push
phones on people, never. if you knew the pay structure you would do the
same. many times idodnt do this and got stuck with a $5 sale instead of
something that could of made me more money.

anyway you shoud of just got an 3.5mm male plug, to a small piece of coax
(RG-174) or even bought the one they sell, and solder the loose ends to what
ever connector you wanted . i did this for my AM loop antenna they closed
out and it works like a champ. i hook it up to my FT-817 and it has the best
BCB reception

dont rip on the shack employees for your short comings. if you have to
complain about them you are just to frustrated with what you needs are, so
yes let them sell phones and make more money than selling $10.94 worth of
connectors, and then you trying to explain to them about radio.

just my honest opinion, now lets see who flames me

-steve, former Shacker



"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
Well, I've posted my dilema on what I've been looking for but never got

an
answer, or at least one I could take in there so I decided today I WAS

coming
out of any rat shack with what I needed.......if I had to go to five of

them,
I was.

My two problems:
I needed an adapter or 'sleeve' to consistently keep plugged into my

external
antenna jack on my DX398. You'd swear I was speaking another language.

After
I spoke s-l-o-w-l-y- for the third time and still saw the constipated

looks on
the two faces in there I told them....."guys, go on and take care of the

other
customers, there was FIVE standing there with their new (I suppose)

picture
cell phones and they were pressing in codes. {?} That's what it looked

like.
Every now and then one of them would break away from the desk and go to

an
aisle I was in like I was a potential thief or something.

I know a thief can be anyone, but I'm professional and clean cut and

after the
FOURTH time of being watched 'kind words' from me were asked to them in

the
form of "I'm not gonna rip you off, then preceded to reach in my pocket

and
whip out a stack of bills, that got them to leave me alone (I think.) ;-)

But for anyone else that needs or wants to correct the problem I had, the

cat#
(that I kept asking for in here to no avail BTW;-) ) is #4202472 for the
adapter or actually a 'sleeve' so you can plug and unplug your antenna

without
wearing out your board.

The other problem was with my phones (head phones) my Optimus Pro 40

plugs
into an adapter and I was afraid (because it would have) put a strain on

the
headphone chord from being bent at an angle all the time or would have

strained
the board. So I found a 'stereo to stereo Right angle'.....so now I have

that
new piece plugged in and the other adapter into it....followed by the
headphones plug itself plugged into that. No more strains on any of those
jacks or the board and now I can always unplug my external antenna (like
everyone should) without worrying if it'd be the last time before the jack
would loosen or the board would crack.

Both of them work beautifully and I'm a happy camper, and those workers

are
ding dong heads. ;-)




elg110254 March 5th 04 06:19 PM

Check out the dilemma @ www.radioshacksucks.com

Joe March 5th 04 06:50 PM

Forget "Crap Shack" its not worth the aggravation, got ****ed with some
character in Hip Hop clothing following me around the store bugging me with
a book of cellphone, radio and credit card plans. All the parts were packed
up thrown in disarray into a bank's of draw's
I did my standard rant, this time thing's went a little different:

I went off on him with tech talk: LOOK THIS IS WHAT Im LOOKING FOR !..Blah
Blah Blah
the droid goes and calls the cops on me !!!
The stupid ass call 911 and told them I looked suspicious and was for asking
for Ferrets, eggs, and German diodes.
The 2 stupid 21 year old flatfoots then ask me if Im on any type of
medication then for ID. I explain that I am looking for parts to help my
nephew put together a crystal set, now they look even more confused

Get an account with Mouser www.mouser.com the hell with these stupid
A**holes !!

-Joe



"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
Well, I've posted my dilema on what I've been looking for but never got

an
answer, or at least one I could take in there so I decided today I WAS

coming
out of any rat shack with what I needed.......if I had to go to five of

them,
I was.

My two problems:
I needed an adapter or 'sleeve' to consistently keep plugged into my

external
antenna jack on my DX398. You'd swear I was speaking another language.

After
I spoke s-l-o-w-l-y- for the third time and still saw the constipated

looks on
the two faces in there I told them....."guys, go on and take care of the

other
customers, there was FIVE standing there with their new (I suppose)

picture
cell phones and they were pressing in codes. {?} That's what it looked

like.
Every now and then one of them would break away from the desk and go to

an
aisle I was in like I was a potential thief or something.

I know a thief can be anyone, but I'm professional and clean cut and

after the
FOURTH time of being watched 'kind words' from me were asked to them in

the
form of "I'm not gonna rip you off, then preceded to reach in my pocket

and
whip out a stack of bills, that got them to leave me alone (I think.) ;-)

But for anyone else that needs or wants to correct the problem I had, the

cat#
(that I kept asking for in here to no avail BTW;-) ) is #4202472 for the
adapter or actually a 'sleeve' so you can plug and unplug your antenna

without
wearing out your board.

The other problem was with my phones (head phones) my Optimus Pro 40

plugs
into an adapter and I was afraid (because it would have) put a strain on

the
headphone chord from being bent at an angle all the time or would have

strained
the board. So I found a 'stereo to stereo Right angle'.....so now I have

that
new piece plugged in and the other adapter into it....followed by the
headphones plug itself plugged into that. No more strains on any of those
jacks or the board and now I can always unplug my external antenna (like
everyone should) without worrying if it'd be the last time before the jack
would loosen or the board would crack.

Both of them work beautifully and I'm a happy camper, and those workers

are
ding dong heads. ;-)




GrtPmpkin32 March 5th 04 06:54 PM

i worked at the shack to pay my way through college

Good for you, more people ought to have that drive.

and hated
dealing with customers who couldnt find what they were looking for or even
knew what it was they were looking for.


Hey, no one put a gun to your head and forced you to work at R.S., or anywhere
else for that matter. There are ALWAYS a fair amount of customers who haven't
the slightest clue if they're even in the right store, let alone know exactly
what they need. That's WHY there are basic rules of conduct and assistance in
the retail business, which, unfortunately, you didn't feel the need to
exercise. Be bitter about having to deal with 'idiots', but don't take it out
on the very base which supported your paycheck and got you through college.

it is not our job to find a magic
piece for you


Actually, it is, if you want to stay in business. R.S.'s own advertising and
marketing attitudes claim exactly that.

you apparenlty knew what you needed so why bother the
employees, just let them ring you up

There's the right attitude about retail and customer service... 'Don't bother
the help'... hell, why not just get rid of the employees and let the customer
find their stuff and ring it up themselves? OH, wait, then you wouldn't have
had anywhere to work through college...


so i might even give someone the cold shoulder to go
help a cell phone


Glad I never visited your store. You'd have been taken to task.

dont rip on the shack employees for your short comings.


When someone is supposed to know what they sell, and they don't know what they
sell, it is hardly a shortcoming of the customer. I had an R.S. employee tell
me (when I didn't even ask him about it, was just looking through the
headphones shelf) that simple walkman headphones wouldn't work with the output
from a portable MP3/CD player, because the phones 'were the wrong megahertz'...
and this guy was a manager.
And when an employee INTENTIONALLY ignores a customer who may not give them a
bigger sale, THAT also is a shortcoming of the employee's personal attitude,
and if defended or never questioned by the employer, then it's the employer's
shortcoming as well. The customer's knowledge or lack thereof has nothing to do
with ****ty service.
Not every R.S. store is that bad, some are terrific, most are average. And the
FACT is that the AVERAGE R.S. store couldn't care less about the customer who's
looking for less than $10 of merchandise. Disagree? Let's see what you wrote:

let them sell phones and make more money than selling $10.94 worth of
connectors

Yep, just like the sour looks one may get asking for a ketchup packet from the
girl across the counter at a fast food place. Just because you're bitter about
being there doesn't mean the customer's being an idiot, it just means you feel
like the world owes you more than you're getting.
Right.
Most other franchise-retail stores I frequent aren't even CLOSE to the level of
ignorance about their products and shameless disregard for their customers, as
your average R.S. store. I still shop there when needed, of course, and RARELY
if ever approach the employees, not because I'm afraid of 'bothering them' (no,
Heaven forbid I enlist the services of a paid employee during business hours...
I mean, let's not actually ask someone to DO the friggin' JOB they're paid to
do, right?) but because they never have a satisfactory answer if I have a
question.
For a store which markets themselves as 'Having Answers', they fail miserably,
ON AVERAGE.
Lord help us if you work retail again. Let us know which store so we can stay
the hell away.
Linus


CW March 5th 04 07:41 PM


"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was looking for a shorter RG58 cable in RS a couple weeks ago because
my 20' was all wound up (not enough room) and it was causing QRM.


???!!!



CW March 5th 04 08:00 PM

Hey Linus, you were right, the twit was wrong. He demonstrated an attitude
that is becoming increasingly prevalent. He seemed to think that he was
doing you a favor by allowing you to shop there. This is happening a lot
lately and more people need to raise hell about it. Without the customer,
they're nothing. I think Radio Shack's days are numbered anyway. As they
drop more and more of the radio and parts lines that made them unique, they
have to compete with other (and better) stores for cell phones and satellite
TV sales.

"GrtPmpkin32" wrote in message
...
i worked at the shack to pay my way through college


Good for you, more people ought to have that drive.

and hated
dealing with customers who couldnt find what they were looking for or

even
knew what it was they were looking for.


Hey, no one put a gun to your head and forced you to work at R.S., or

anywhere
else for that matter. There are ALWAYS a fair amount of customers who

haven't
the slightest clue if they're even in the right store, let alone know

exactly
what they need. That's WHY there are basic rules of conduct and assistance

in
the retail business, which, unfortunately, you didn't feel the need to
exercise. Be bitter about having to deal with 'idiots', but don't take it

out
on the very base which supported your paycheck and got you through

college.

it is not our job to find a magic
piece for you


Actually, it is, if you want to stay in business. R.S.'s own advertising

and
marketing attitudes claim exactly that.

you apparenlty knew what you needed so why bother the
employees, just let them ring you up

There's the right attitude about retail and customer service... 'Don't

bother
the help'... hell, why not just get rid of the employees and let the

customer
find their stuff and ring it up themselves? OH, wait, then you wouldn't

have
had anywhere to work through college...


so i might even give someone the cold shoulder to go
help a cell phone


Glad I never visited your store. You'd have been taken to task.

dont rip on the shack employees for your short comings.


When someone is supposed to know what they sell, and they don't know what

they
sell, it is hardly a shortcoming of the customer. I had an R.S. employee

tell
me (when I didn't even ask him about it, was just looking through the
headphones shelf) that simple walkman headphones wouldn't work with the

output
from a portable MP3/CD player, because the phones 'were the wrong

megahertz'...
and this guy was a manager.
And when an employee INTENTIONALLY ignores a customer who may not give

them a
bigger sale, THAT also is a shortcoming of the employee's personal

attitude,
and if defended or never questioned by the employer, then it's the

employer's
shortcoming as well. The customer's knowledge or lack thereof has nothing

to do
with ****ty service.
Not every R.S. store is that bad, some are terrific, most are average. And

the
FACT is that the AVERAGE R.S. store couldn't care less about the customer

who's
looking for less than $10 of merchandise. Disagree? Let's see what you

wrote:

let them sell phones and make more money than selling $10.94 worth of
connectors

Yep, just like the sour looks one may get asking for a ketchup packet from

the
girl across the counter at a fast food place. Just because you're bitter

about
being there doesn't mean the customer's being an idiot, it just means you

feel
like the world owes you more than you're getting.
Right.
Most other franchise-retail stores I frequent aren't even CLOSE to the

level of
ignorance about their products and shameless disregard for their

customers, as
your average R.S. store. I still shop there when needed, of course, and

RARELY
if ever approach the employees, not because I'm afraid of 'bothering them'

(no,
Heaven forbid I enlist the services of a paid employee during business

hours...
I mean, let's not actually ask someone to DO the friggin' JOB they're paid

to
do, right?) but because they never have a satisfactory answer if I have a
question.
For a store which markets themselves as 'Having Answers', they fail

miserably,
ON AVERAGE.
Lord help us if you work retail again. Let us know which store so we can

stay
the hell away.
Linus




tommyknocker March 5th 04 10:54 PM

CW wrote:


"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was looking for a shorter RG58 cable in RS a couple weeks ago because
my 20' was all wound up (not enough room) and it was causing QRM.


???!!!


Heh. :) The 20' lead in coax cable for my SW antenna-the cable I'd used
in a pinch when I moved in-was too long for the space it needed to
cover, and it was picking up spurious signals (electronic noise and
such). I know this because the signal would improve when I moved the
coax. So I went to RS to buy a shorter lead in cable.


CW March 5th 04 11:26 PM

If your coax is picking up signal then you have system problems. Just using
coax without proper configuration is a waste of money. You might as well use
hook up wire. In a properly functioning setup, that extra length would
actually be beneficial if it had any effect at all. A length of coax in a
coil can act as a very effective RF choke.

"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
CW wrote:


"tommyknocker" wrote in message
...
I was looking for a shorter RG58 cable in RS a couple weeks ago

because
my 20' was all wound up (not enough room) and it was causing QRM.


???!!!


Heh. :) The 20' lead in coax cable for my SW antenna-the cable I'd used
in a pinch when I moved in-was too long for the space it needed to
cover, and it was picking up spurious signals (electronic noise and
such). I know this because the signal would improve when I moved the
coax. So I went to RS to buy a shorter lead in cable.




John Miller March 6th 04 01:40 AM

tommyknocker wrote:
Heh. :) The 20' lead in coax cable for my SW antenna-the cable I'd used
in a pinch when I moved in-was too long for the space it needed to
cover, and it was picking up spurious signals (electronic noise and
such).


Moving coax around should have no effect at all. How is your system
grounded?

--
John Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

Neutrinos are into physicists.


tommyknocker March 6th 04 01:55 AM

John Miller wrote:

tommyknocker wrote:
Heh. :) The 20' lead in coax cable for my SW antenna-the cable I'd used
in a pinch when I moved in-was too long for the space it needed to
cover, and it was picking up spurious signals (electronic noise and
such).


Moving coax around should have no effect at all. How is your system
grounded?


Insulated, stranded copper wire hooked to a small pole stuck in the
earth.


Larry W4CSC March 6th 04 01:56 AM

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:28:46 GMT, "Eddie Haskel"
wrote:

Radio Shack's motto...."You have questions? we have batteries! Can I sell
you a cell phone today?"


Radio Shack - You got questions? We got SALESMEN!

Have a little fun with them. Always order some obscure repair part
for a Radio Shack-branded gadget, especially if he's trying to move a
high-profit cellphone account on you...(c;



Larry W4CSC
POWER is our friend!

John Miller March 6th 04 03:00 AM

tommyknocker wrote:
John Miller wrote:

Moving coax around should have no effect at all. How is your system
grounded?


Insulated, stranded copper wire hooked to a small pole stuck in the
earth.


You have a multimeter? While your rig is all connected up, measure the
voltage, both DC and AC, between the shield of the coax and the ground
"hole" of one of your wall sockets. Please note that I am *not* suggesting
that your house electrical ground is a good RF ground (although it could
possibly be better than a small pole in the ground). But if there's
significant difference in electrical potential, it's a good indication that
your radio grounding system needs work or re-thinking.

Maybe someone can post a link to a site with good grounding info.

--
John Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

In Tulsa, Oklahoma, it is against the law to open a soda bottle without the
supervision of a licensed engineer.


Eric F. Richards March 6th 04 04:36 AM

"Joe" wrote:

The stupid ass call 911 and told them I looked suspicious and was for asking
for Ferrets, eggs, and German diodes.


Heh! Should've told him that World War II is over.

BTW, Rat Shack stopped carrying 1N34s a couple years ago, so your wild
goose chase would've been no good under the best of circumstances.


--
Eric F. Richards,
"This book reads like a headache on paper."
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/readi...one/index.html

Dxluver March 6th 04 08:35 AM

The weird thing was that the only 6' they had has one male end and one
female end. How do they expect me to plug it in? At least they had a
double male connector so I didn't have to worry about that.


When in doubt Tommyknocker, 'adapt.' You know...lol....thank the Lord
(literally) for them. My two adapters I got are doing the job exactly like I
was wanting, I 'almost' thought it couldn't be done, but it sounded so simple
I knew there had to be a way. :-)

Question:That audio cable that I use for my external antenna 'sleeve' is a lot
longer than I need so I circled the majority of it up and put a swatch of tape
on it. This won't cause a problem will it? Having it wrapped like that.
Should I untape it and just let it hang? I mean, no one will see it or
anything, I just thought it'd be a little neater. {?}

Dxluver March 6th 04 08:43 AM

But if there's
significant difference in electrical potential, it's a good indication that
your radio grounding system needs work or re-thinking.

Maybe someone can post a link to a site with good grounding info.


I know you're right there John, I'm not txing yet so everything in my shack is
just receiving so I didn't think it'd make that big a deal.

But I spent about a whole day in just concentrating on each piece and properly
grounding everything and it was the best 'accesorie' ;-) I ever bought. The
difference in the noise floor, which was low to begin with because of my
location, dropped noticably......to the point that I think I actually posted a
thread in here trying to convince people, that if their receivers weren't
*properly* grounded to get out there and ground them. You won't be sorry,
heck with the lightening thing (even though it's a biggie), just in your dxing
experience.

Dxluver March 6th 04 08:46 AM

you know what,, screw off, wow you found what you needed!!!!

Since you never post in here, I won't even reply 'much' to you. he he.
College? Huh, I bet they taught you how to write didn't they, looks like it.

Thank you for playing. sheesh

Dxluver March 6th 04 08:51 AM

dont rip on the shack employees for your short comings. if you have to
complain about them you are just to frustrated with what you needs are, so
yes let them sell phones and make more money than selling $10.94 worth of
connectors, and then you trying to


explain to them about radio


I stopped reading and didn't see that you kept babbling, so I'll reply.
*They* bothered me. As soon as I walked in. *HE* asked 'me' what I was
looking for, but didn't know what to get. Even though I physically had the
receiver in my hand...lol...yeah...helped through college.

The ONLY way to make money at Radio Shack (per former employee) he said "is to
lie."-----enough said. I'm sure you did your share. he he

Dxluver March 6th 04 09:07 AM

Lord help us if you work retail again. Let us know which store so we can stay
the hell away.


Good post Linus. When I realized they weren't going to help (even though I am
pointing at the radio in my hand) and went to get it myself, I was followed
like a shoplifter.

It is sooooo simple in my life with problems like that. When I am treated in
that such manner, I refuse to go there anymore. It was a store on my parents
side of town anyhow but even if it was here local, I PROMISE I would NEVER
step foot in their store again.

There are four rat shacks in the 'area' so too speak. Because of that incident
there are now TWO that I literally won't walk in, it's a very basic and honest
system of doing business. It's the ONLY way (as a customer) to be able to
'even the score.' The funny thing is, they (the employees) have caused it
every time, not I. Honest.

I GUARANTEE I would have spent at least $200.00 just in little accesories from
that store in a year , nothing much. Adapter/batteries/guy wire/hi-beam
light......little stuff that adds up over a year. They won't get it. I'll
just wait and go to the one closer to my house and when their good employees
'finish college' and they bring in num nuts like that guy, I will then be down
to one rat shack....lol...he he.

Pretty simple actually. :-)

Dxluver March 6th 04 09:44 AM

Maybe this is an aberration, but it sure was nice to be able to buy
something without having to draw the person a diagram.


It used to be the way it was all the time, or at least the majority. The
changing of times I suppose.

CW March 6th 04 10:49 AM

Coiled up is the best way.

"Dxluver" wrote in message
...
Question:That audio cable that I use for my external antenna 'sleeve' is a

lot
longer than I need so I circled the majority of it up and put a swatch of

tape
on it. This won't cause a problem will it? Having it wrapped like that.
Should I untape it and just let it hang? I mean, no one will see it or
anything, I just thought it'd be a little neater. {?}




Stephen M.H. Lawrence March 6th 04 10:29 PM


"Eddie Haskel" wrote in message
.. .
| Radio Shack's motto...."You have questions? we have batteries! Can I sell
| you a cell phone today?"
|

"Radio Shack...You have money.....we have POCKETS!"

73,

Steve Lawrence
Burnsville, MN


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LW March 7th 04 04:16 AM

"Eddie Haskel" wrote ...

Radio Shack's motto...."You have questions? we have batteries! Can I sell
you a cell phone today?"


You have questions - we have blank stares.

S March 7th 04 06:06 AM

thank you for flaming me.

i knew it would happen,

i just wanted to rant. and Mr. Dxluver. all i was trying to say was dont
blame the staff they are not trained to know every little part in the store.
if you want to get mad at someone get mad at the management, that is all.
the core profit is in the parts, but the quick profit turn is on service
providers (cell phones, etc) if you knew how the business was run and how
bonuses were made, you would not help the litle part customers either. if
their was more incentive for the parts and suh, more eplyees would pay
closer attention to them.

i know radioshack has bad business practices towards us "radio people" but
in the large picture we are a small niche they dont make much money on a
compared to others

as far as me working their during college, it was easy pocket money for a
20-30hr job that was flexible in schedule. try to find a good paying job
while in college not doing much today

i never lied to a customer, even though my manager and DM promoted it. they
hated me for not sellng stuff people didnt want/or need

i do post here quite often, under a different name though, sometimes it is
not worth a post on such stupid things like
what color to buy a ATS 909 in





"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote:

The stupid ass call 911 and told them I looked suspicious and was for

asking
for Ferrets, eggs, and German diodes.


Heh! Should've told him that World War II is over.

BTW, Rat Shack stopped carrying 1N34s a couple years ago, so your wild
goose chase would've been no good under the best of circumstances.


--
Eric F. Richards,
"This book reads like a headache on paper."
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/readi...one/index.html




RHF March 7th 04 10:17 AM

= = = (Dxluver) wrote in message
= = = ...

The weird thing was that the only 6' they had has one male end and one
female end. How do they expect me to plug it in? At least they had a
double male connector so I didn't have to worry about that.


When in doubt Tommyknocker, 'adapt.' You know...lol....thank the Lord
(literally) for them. My two adapters I got are doing the job exactly like I
was wanting, I 'almost' thought it couldn't be done, but it sounded so simple
I knew there had to be a way. :-)

Question:That audio cable that I use for my external antenna 'sleeve' is a lot
longer than I need so I circled the majority of it up and put a swatch of tape
on it. This won't cause a problem will it? Having it wrapped like that.
Should I untape it and just let it hang? I mean, no one will see it or
anything, I just thought it'd be a little neater. {?}


DX Luver,

If you are a more Relaxed Person, then just let your 'external
antenna sleeve' lay as it may.

If you are more of a Neat-Type Person, then by all means made
a few loops and tie-it-off.

BUT - If you are an Excessive Compulsive Person, then your
'external antenna sleeve' MUST BE Coiled into Three 4" Loops
and Tied-off in Five Equally Spaced Places. This will 'ensure'
that ORDER is Maintained in the Universe :o)

jftfoi ~ RHF

..

Dxluver March 7th 04 10:22 AM

Coiled up is the best way.

thanks cw, that's what I had hoped, makes the most sense.

Dxluver March 7th 04 10:23 AM

all i was trying to say was dont
blame the staff they are not trained to know every little part in the store.
if you want to get mad at someone get mad at the management,


Hey, I understand. You have no problem here. :-)

Dxluver March 7th 04 11:00 AM

If you are a more Relaxed Person, then just let your 'external
antenna sleeve' lay as it may.

If you are more of a Neat-Type Person, then by all means made
a few loops and tie-it-off.


BUT - If you are an Excessive Compulsive Person, then your
'external antenna sleeve' MUST BE Coiled into Three 4" Loops
and Tied-off in Five Equally Spaced Places. This will 'ensure'
that ORDER is Maintained in the Universe :o)


Oh no rhf....lol...I'm not telling. That was good. ;-P

Leonard Martin March 9th 04 04:32 AM

In article ,
"Corbin Ray" wrote:

I applied for a job as a fast-track manager at Radio Shack a year ago. My
credentials were out of this world. Besides my love for radio, I had a
Marketing/Business background, degree to match, and better Radio Shack
product knowledge than the managers I interviewed with.

Did I get the job? Of course not. All they want is a roboton who can
shamelessly upsell to an unsuspecting public, even when they don't need to
be upsold. Cell phones and satellite TV is all they're interesting in
selling. That's where the money is I guess, but sometimes people just don't
need those things. And sometimes people will be more loyal if you don't push
unnecessary products down their throats every time they come into your
store. So you can see why RS and I parted ways immediately.

By the way, a couple of weeks later, I got a MUCH better job with Verizon,
and every time I go by a Radio Shack store, I shudder to think I might have
been stuck in there selling my soul to the devil every day.



This is the first insightful post on this issue. When in doubt,
Americans will never blame the company, always the poor employees
hustling for a living. Well, in this case it's obviously the company to
blame. Two or three posters have noted that the pay structure for Rat
Shack employees is based on selling cell phone and satellite tv
contracts, not helping customers. That's where the problem lies, and the
responsibility clearly lies with the company.

Think of it as just another example of the increasing greed and
unprincipledness of American companies in recent years, which we've all
noticed in many different forms. Now, why have they become that way?

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

Eric F. Richards March 9th 04 05:30 AM

"S" wrote:

thank you for flaming me.

i knew it would happen,

[snip]

WHAT are you talking about? I made a comment about Joe's experience,
not yours.



"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote:

The stupid ass call 911 and told them I looked suspicious and was for

asking
for Ferrets, eggs, and German diodes.


Heh! Should've told him that World War II is over.

BTW, Rat Shack stopped carrying 1N34s a couple years ago, so your wild
goose chase would've been no good under the best of circumstances.


--
Eric F. Richards,
"This book reads like a headache on paper."
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/readi...one/index.html



--
Eric F. Richards,
"Nature abhors a vacuum tube." -- J. R. Pierce, Bell Labs, c. 1940

Dxluver March 9th 04 05:31 AM

Americans will never blame the company, always the poor employees
hustling for a living.


Well, in this case it's obviously the company to
blame. Two or three posters have noted that the pay structure for Rat
Shack employees is based on selling cell phone and satellite tv
contracts, not helping customers. That's where the problem lies


No. The problems lies when the prospective employee has been told 'how' he
gets paid.

If the future employee 'chooses' under his own free will to *lie* to the
customers to jack up his paycheck, is not the employee at fault?

I would say yes, hence the problems at just about ever radio shack across the
country. Sure, management is giving them the choice, BUT, the employee is
excepting the terms of employment.

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer. And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(

ShackOfRadios March 10th 04 01:20 AM

Don't shop at radioshack they run sweatshops.
http://12.22.230.41/MicroTech/Hosted/Files/issue1-demands_of_free_labour(10-39AM)1.mp3
That is a recording of my assistant manager Kevin Sutherland and my
manager Kevin Huang (the oriental guy in the recording) in Mapleview
Mall Radioshack, Burlington Ontario Canada (905-681-7353 is their
phone number, verify the voice if you like).
There are no conditions under which it is appropriate to demand free
off-the-clock labor.

You may also contact him directly at (905) 541 0833
Furthermore you may contact head office at (705) 728 7474
Or email them at


Making people work for free is the same as stealing, and it is also
fraud since hours have to be incorrectly reported. Let these people
know how criminal their activities are.

"S" wrote in message . net...
thank you for flaming me.

i knew it would happen,

i just wanted to rant. and Mr. Dxluver. all i was trying to say was dont
blame the staff they are not trained to know every little part in the store.
if you want to get mad at someone get mad at the management, that is all.
the core profit is in the parts, but the quick profit turn is on service
providers (cell phones, etc) if you knew how the business was run and how
bonuses were made, you would not help the litle part customers either. if
their was more incentive for the parts and suh, more eplyees would pay
closer attention to them.

i know radioshack has bad business practices towards us "radio people" but
in the large picture we are a small niche they dont make much money on a
compared to others

as far as me working their during college, it was easy pocket money for a
20-30hr job that was flexible in schedule. try to find a good paying job
while in college not doing much today

i never lied to a customer, even though my manager and DM promoted it. they
hated me for not sellng stuff people didnt want/or need

i do post here quite often, under a different name though, sometimes it is
not worth a post on such stupid things like
what color to buy a ATS 909 in





"Eric F. Richards" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote:

The stupid ass call 911 and told them I looked suspicious and was for

asking
for Ferrets, eggs, and German diodes.


Heh! Should've told him that World War II is over.

BTW, Rat Shack stopped carrying 1N34s a couple years ago, so your wild
goose chase would've been no good under the best of circumstances.


--
Eric F. Richards,

"This book reads like a headache on paper."
http://www.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/readi...one/index.html


Leonard Martin March 12th 04 04:35 AM

In article ,
(Dxluver) wrote:

Americans will never blame the company, always the poor employees
hustling for a living.


Well, in this case it's obviously the company to
blame. Two or three posters have noted that the pay structure for Rat
Shack employees is based on selling cell phone and satellite tv
contracts, not helping customers. That's where the problem lies


No. The problems lies when the prospective employee has been told 'how' he
gets paid.

If the future employee 'chooses' under his own free will to *lie* to the
customers to jack up his paycheck, is not the employee at fault?

I would say yes, hence the problems at just about ever radio shack across the
country. Sure, management is giving them the choice, BUT, the employee is
excepting the terms of employment.

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer. And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(



Who said anything about lying to customers? Lying is reprehensible. Some
"puffing" of the products, on the other hand, has always been standard
practice. I was just referring to the change of the stores from sources
of many electronic things, including knowledgeably-sold parts, to places
where they mainly try sell yearly cell-phone and satellite tv contracts,
ignoring much of the other stuff. When you sell intangibles like
contracts, my guess is that you make a lot more money than when you sell
stuff, because you don't have to store, transport, stock, and warranty
the intangibles. It would also be my guess that the decline of the
service and selection in Radio Shacks started when cell phones became
popular, and accelerated when satellite tv joined their lineup.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor

Dxluver March 12th 04 08:19 AM

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer.
And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(

Who said anything about lying to customers? Lying is reprehensible



Case in point Leonard. This was at least two years or more ago. But I watched
an employee sell a customer a cordless phone.

The lady asked the employee "can I be heard talking on this phone by people
with *police* scanners?"

I saw the brand of phone and waited to see what he'd say, and without a second
pause he told her "oh no, not on this one."

I looked at him and rolled my eyes and kind of shook my head and he looked at
me real hard, hard enough that the lady noticed and turned around towards me
and said "is there a problem?"

I replied "well, if you want your neighbors and people in your neighborhood to
know everything about you and you don't care, then no. There isn't anything
wrong."

The shack employee quickly reached for another phone (more expensive) that had
'voice encryption' on it and told her that this would' garble up your voice'
and no one would understand you and I started laughing.

He said "well, I'm not lying".......and I said "no you're not, but you're not
telling her either for about seven to eight dollars worth of parts here that
the simple encryption can be broken very easy and you can be heard *crystal
clear.*

His reply was and he stuttered...."well I'm sure people have better things to
do with their time than listen to peoples conversations."

I explained to him and her my hobby of electronics and explained the simplicity
of building a box and even told them about my Ramsey speech scrambler, of
course I added that "yes it gets old and it's not as exciting as it once was
(and it's not), but mam if you left with that phone I PROMISE you I could sit
down the street from your house and every time YOU pick up the phone, *I* pick
up the phone also.

Some other things were said, but to make a long story short I told her the
ONLY way (other than the gubiment listening) is to get a phone with 'Spread
Spectrum Technology'......but she didn't want to pay that much for a phone she
said. So I advised her not to say anything she wouldn't be ashamed of telling
her neighborhood over her other cordless, but for important things, just
stick to the ole' landline phone.

Here's the sad part, the employee was MAD at me for telling her the TRUTH
while he was LYING to her. It goes on everyday in rat shacks stores alllllllll
over the country, and that's sad IMO.

Who said anything about lying you say? ;-)








Leonard Martin March 15th 04 12:23 AM

In article ,
(Dxluver) wrote:

Then from day one, *KNOWINGLY* going to work to just jack the customer.

And
jack they do. Actually it is quite sad.:-(

Who said anything about lying to customers? Lying is reprehensible



Case in point Leonard. This was at least two years or more ago. But I watched
an employee sell a customer a cordless phone.

The lady asked the employee "can I be heard talking on this phone by people
with *police* scanners?"

I saw the brand of phone and waited to see what he'd say, and without a second
pause he told her "oh no, not on this one."

I looked at him and rolled my eyes and kind of shook my head and he looked at
me real hard, hard enough that the lady noticed and turned around towards me
and said "is there a problem?"

I replied "well, if you want your neighbors and people in your neighborhood to
know everything about you and you don't care, then no. There isn't anything
wrong."

The shack employee quickly reached for another phone (more expensive) that had
'voice encryption' on it and told her that this would' garble up your voice'
and no one would understand you and I started laughing.

He said "well, I'm not lying".......and I said "no you're not, but you're not
telling her either for about seven to eight dollars worth of parts here that
the simple encryption can be broken very easy and you can be heard *crystal
clear.*

His reply was and he stuttered...."well I'm sure people have better things to
do with their time than listen to peoples conversations."

I explained to him and her my hobby of electronics and explained the simplicity
of building a box and even told them about my Ramsey speech scrambler, of
course I added that "yes it gets old and it's not as exciting as it once was
(and it's not), but mam if you left with that phone I PROMISE you I could sit
down the street from your house and every time YOU pick up the phone, *I* pick
up the phone also.

Some other things were said, but to make a long story short I told her the
ONLY way (other than the gubiment listening) is to get a phone with 'Spread
Spectrum Technology'......but she didn't want to pay that much for a phone she
said. So I advised her not to say anything she wouldn't be ashamed of telling
her neighborhood over her other cordless, but for important things, just
stick to the ole' landline phone.

Here's the sad part, the employee was MAD at me for telling her the TRUTH
while he was LYING to her. It goes on everyday in rat shacks stores alllllllll
over the country, and that's sad IMO.

Who said anything about lying you say? ;-)


Nice story! I'm sure they lie like homosexual priests. I was just
granting the previous poster a point in order to go on and make my main
point about the ultimate reason why Radio Shacks have gone downhill.
Radio Shack has always been a place NOT to trade at, except for the
parts. They were only good as a source of parts. Every time I made the
mistake of buying an actual assembled item there, it proved to be junk.
E.g, the old DX-300 receiver that had no IF filter, just an audio
filter, and had so much intermodulation distortion that there seemed to
be a shortwave station every 10 khz.

Now there's no reason to patronize Radio Shack at all.

Leonard

--
"Everything that rises must converge"
--Flannery O'Connor


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